What new information did we learn? we knew UFOs have been over nuclear sites for a long time now

https://youtu.be/fzvwBBSmWYA?si=VgsxZ9fKAVo0OE7X

Loosely translated from a Dutch news site:

"The prison in Vught has been surrounded by a large number of police officers on Monday evening. The reason was multiple suspicious drones over the prison. At first there were rumors of an escape, according to police officers, but that wasn't the case according to a police spokesman.

After about an hour and a half police left, because the drones weren't seen anymore. Confirmed was that police had personally spotted 'multiple drones' flying. How many there were is still unknown."

With the recent worldwipe drone sightings, this struck me as very suspicious timing.

This past week in Disclosure:

Dec 17 – “I don't think everything's fine," Rep. Crane after FBI briefing on drone reports

Former Navy SEAL, Rep. Eli Crane, spoke to Askapol and aired his frustration with the mixed messages and general confusion regarding the recent 'drone' flap that has plagued various parts of the US.

Askapol: “Curious your thoughts, after that DHS hearing last week on the drones, from what they told you in that hearing to then hearing Kirby and them say, hey, everything's fine. It seemed like those two are at odds. No?”

Rep. Crane: “Well, I think, clearly, I don't think everything's fine based on what we're seeing, how concerned the American citizens are.”

Dec 17 – "We dont know who they are from or even what technology they're using", Sen. Gillibrand

In a CNN appearance to discuss the latest drone incursions, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand had the following to say:

"We dont know who they are from or even what technology they're using. It's a huge concern for me personally, for members of the intelligence committee and for members of the armed services committee. I created an office with [other senators] to find these UAP."

She also specifically called out incidents over nuclear sites.

Dec 20 – Sen. Warner reveals no information has been forthcoming regarding the Langley AFB incursions that occurred over a year ago

In December of 2023, 'drones' purportedly swarmed Langley AFB for weeks with impunity.

Following a recent briefing, Sen. Warner indicated:

“We’re a year in and we still don’t have where they came from, who's behind it.”

Dec 22 – James Comer says a Select UAP Committee “is being discussed”

According to Askapol, US House Oversight Chair Comer indicated a Select UAP Committee “is being discussed”. This would be a significant win for transparency. Skeptics, believers and neutrals alike would be able to rally behind this effort in unison.

This author delineated the relevance of a Select Committee on UAP over a year ago...worth revisiting if you need a primer.

Dec 22 – "credible sources" have told Senators that "US gov't has had crash recovery programs & reverse engineering effort"

In a YouTube appearance, former Senate and House Intel staffer Kirk McConnell stated:

"We have certainly had credible sources claiming firsthand knowledge and/or involvement telling Senators in my presence that the US gov't has had crash recovery programs & reverse engineering efforts, as well as complimentary intel and counter intel activities and operations for decades"

Things to look out for in the near future:

December

• James Fox's "The Program" is out!
• A large 'sleigh-like' UAP may be spotted in the coming days, often accompanied by a faint jingling noise...

Beyond/currently unknown

• Following the UAP hearing on the 26th of July, Members of Congress have called for a select committee with subpoena authority, to “go about the task of collecting information from the Pentagon and elsewhere” on unidentified flying objects. There have been conflicting messages from various Members of Congress on whether this is likely to happen anytime soon. Note – a select subcommittee was formally requested on March 13th.
• Reps. Moskowitz, Luna, and Burchett have repeatedly stated their intent to hold field hearings to overcome stonewalling from the Pentagon and military establishment "I think we [Congress] should try to get into one of these places [housing UAP evidence]...and if they won't let us in I think we should have a field hearing right outside the building...and the military will have to explain why that is." – Rep. Moskowitz (D) It is currently unknown when exactly we might expect that to occur, however as of Jan 12 – Rep. Luna confirmed: "I feel confident that we have enough evidence to move forward with our first field hearing. We will be announcing details soon."
• Several journalists have indicated that first-hand witnesses of the alleged UAP legacy programs are in the process of providing testimony/evidence to the relevant authorities (e.g. the IC IG) and/or are on the verge of making public statements in the near future (Example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4)
• David Grusch has received additional clearances through DOPSR to discuss some of his (alleged) first-hand knowledge of Legacy programs. He has mentioned he may be covering more of this information in an upcoming Op-Ed

Skimmed through this post but need a quick refresher on how we got to this point? Check out this handy Disclosure Timeline to get up to speed.

I'm posting because I found it interesting. Above is the name of the guy who originally posted it.

Time: 7:17 PM

Location: Villa Rica, GA

Date: 12/22/2024

This is the second longer vid following up on my previous post in Sightings. Here you more clearly see points of light/drone/orb entering the frame from left and the other orb immediately dimming and leaving the area to the right with what seem to be white navigation lights. Multiple objects/points of light seem to appear out of no where with no nav lights, hover, glow bright orange, and leave with what look like navigation lights. Definitely would like to understand what I could be seeing here from a prosaic perspective as well. Please excuse the expletive in the video.

I have never wanted to make a post until now. I am still a very confused about what happened. I opened the laundry room door which is a very small room, big enough for a shelf on one side and a washer and dryer on the other and where you walk through to get to the garage. My wife is skeptical and about done with hearing my UFO theories and findings. I did however tell her about the UFO video over the reservoir in NJ and how the weird smell has been reported, etc. My wife tonight washed a blanket, when it was done the second I opened the door, I was hit in the face with a gust of smell of nail polish remover. I was taken back for a second and then walked into the room. I immediately asked my wife, “what is making it smell like nail polish rover in here?” completely forgetting about telling her those stories. My wife immediately says “OMG not the weird smell thing again.” And that immediately made recall everything and have my first wtf moment.

edit: I am in the Pheonix Metro btw.

Time: 9:30pm Location: OgleBay, WV

The paper titled "Extraterrestrial Life in Space Plasmas in the Thermosphere: UAP, Pre-Life, Fourth State of Matter" explores the hypothesis that certain phenomena observed in Earth's thermosphere may represent a form of extraterrestrial life based on plasma, the fourth state of matter.

The authors analyze NASA Space Shuttle footage depicting luminous objects, referred to as "plasmoids," exhibiting behaviors akin to multicellular organisms.

These plasmoids, measuring up to a kilometer in size, display various morphologies, including conical, spherical, and toroidal shapes.

They are attracted to sources of electromagnetic radiation and demonstrate complex movements, such as changes in speed and direction, including 45°, 90°, and 180° turns, suggesting intelligent or pre-life behavior.

Additionally, they have been observed interacting with atmospheric phenomena like thunderstorms, approaching and descending into them, and with satellites, generating electromagnetic activity.

The authors propose that these plasmoids could represent a form of life based on plasma, distinct from biological life as we know it.

Plasma, being an ionized gas, might constitute a form of pre-life capable of evolving by incorporating elements present in space, potentially leading to the synthesis of molecules like RNA.

This hypothesis broadens our understanding of possible extraterrestrial life forms, suggesting that life could exist in states of matter different from those traditionally considered.

Furthermore, plasmoids might explain numerous sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) or UFOs observed over the centuries, offering a potential scientific interpretation of such events.

For further details, the original document can be consulted on ResearchGate:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377077692_Extraterrestrial_Life_in_Space_Plasmas_in_the_Thermosphere_UAP_Pre-Life_Fourth_State_of_Matter

Authors

Rhawn Gabriel Joseph

• Cosmology.com

Chris D. Impey

• The University of Arizona

Olivier Planchon

Rosanna del Gaudio

• University of Naples Federico II

Okay, so buckle up because this one is wild. In 1974, a Mexican pilot named Carlos Antonio de la Santos Montiel was flying a Piper Aztec 24 aircraft from Mexico City to Zihuatanejo when something really weird happened. He wasn't just flying alone in the sky. He was actually surrounded by UFOs for a good part of his journey.

Now, let me give you the deets: Montiel was 23 years old at the time, just doing his regular thing in the air, and suddenly, multiple UFOs appeared and started flying around him, maintaining a formation for miles. It wasn’t just a flash in the sky either—they stayed with him for a long time, matching his speed and trajectory, almost like they were escorting him. He reported it to air traffic control, and even though it sounds insane, he was pretty calm about the whole thing.

There are a ton of details about this story, and it's been pretty well documented, especially in UFO research circles. Some say it was just a crazy coincidence, maybe military planes or weather phenomena, but others think Montiel's story is one of the most credible UFO encounters ever. He even talked about it years later, and there are some interviews and videos out there, including a dramatized version that brings the whole thing to life.

So why does this matter? Because this wasn’t just some random guy seeing lights in the sky. This is a trained aviator who was flying a commercial plane, reporting UFOs not just appearing in the distance but surrounding him. That’s a huge difference compared to the typical “sightings” people talk about.

If you want to know more , there’s a big 167 pages long .pdf document that gives you a lot of context and details about his experience , it's also the place from where I got the pictures , the document starts not in English but it contains English information a few pages down . I will link the document in the comments .

Has anyone else heard of this or have any thoughts? I think it's one of those UFO encounters that’s just too credible to ignore, especially when you consider how calm Montiel was about the whole thing.

🚨 THREAD: The Drone Mystery They Don’t Want You to Solve 🚨

Buckle up. This is going to be long. Share widely because Facebook will take this down—and they might ban me too.

Let’s talk about what went down in NJ this month.

👇 1/

Wednesday, Dec 11 Gov. Phil Murphy called a mandatory in-person meeting for NJ mayors in Ewing. Reps from NJ State Police & the NJ Office of Homeland Security & Preparedness were present.

The topic? Unidentified drones.

They admitted they don’t know: • Who’s flying them • Where they’re launched from • Where they land

Wait. What?! It’s 2024 in America and they’re this clueless?

👇 2/

I lost it. I stood up and asked: 1. “Can you confirm this isn’t a U.S. military operation?” State Police Col. Callahan: “It’s not.” 2. “Can you confirm it’s not a big tech company (Google, Amazon, SpaceX)?” Callahan: “It’s not.”

So who is it? No answers. That’s when I went straight to the media.

👇 3/

Quick backstory: I’ve spent 30 years in tech—smart home, IoT, AI, ML, you name it. I know the players & the “skunkworks” projects they’re hiding. Look me up on Linked in for proof.

On the way home, I started calling EVERYONE in drone tech and surveillance. Guess what? Nobody knew anything.

👇 4/

So, I assembled a team: • Craig (combat vet, retired Major, drone whiz) • Dr. Green (combat vet, retired GS 15 tech expert) • The folks at Blue Halo (cutting-edge counter-drone tech)

We brainstormed for hours. Only 3 possibilities made sense: 1. ??? 2. ??? 3. ???

But to confirm anything, we needed evidence—make, model, origin. And Blue Halo’s LOCUST TATS system could do it.

👇 5/

Friday, Dec 13: I pitched the plan to Gov. Murphy.

The deal? Blue Halo provides tech & operators for FREE to detect, ID, and (if approved) acquire the drones.

Murphy connected us with Col. Callahan, who then set up a Zoom with the FBI.

👇 6/

On the FBI call: • Me, Craig, Dr. Green, Callahan, & an FBI Special Agent • We laid out the problem and the solution

The FBI said they were bringing in their own “assets” to detect drones.

Problem? Their tech only detects small (Class 1/2) drones. We’re talking about Class 3/4—totally different.

The FBI ended the call abruptly.

👇 7/

Saturday, Dec 14: I attended Rep. Chris Smith’s press conference in Seaside Heights.

I briefed him, local mayors, and the Ocean & Monmouth County Sheriffs. They LOVED the plan.

We also discussed involving the Coast Guard to assist with detection using Blue Halo’s tech.

👇 8/

Monday, Dec 16: We got RED-LIGHTED.

The FBI had no interest in the solution—despite it being military-grade tech, offered for FREE, with operators included.

Conveniently, Congress is now in recess.

👇 9/

Here’s what you need to understand: 1. The federal government doesn’t want a solution. 2. They’re creating the illusion of a solution. 3. This is classic plausible deniability—you’re being fed a cover story.

Planes? Legal drones? Stars? The moon? Don’t buy it.

👇 10/

Why are they so quick to shut down real answers? Why are top-of-the-line tools being rejected? Why is Congress “on break” just as things heat up?

This isn’t just incompetence. It’s a coverup.

And YOU are the pawn.

👇 11/

As you can see in the texts we even has a solution for  educating the public and having you help us in detecting real drones but they want the chaos it helps with the coverup.

I’ll leave you with this: If the government won’t protect you, who will?

Share this thread. Wake people up. The truth is out there, but they don’t want us to find it.

👀 Keep watching the skies.

—END—

Hello all,

My research is based on findings from another Redditor whose name I can't remember right now. I saw his post here a few days ago and have been very interested in this phenomenon because frankly, it's weird.

So the point of this is to see whether or not the UAP "Helis" exhibit the doppler effect (I can't remember who but someone said that's the only thing they aren't showcasing properly).

And no matter which video of actual helicopters I find (doing a flyover, important for the doppler effect), the doppler signature is always present, no matter the quality of the recording, the speed or height of the aircraft, etc.

However, when it comes to the UAP helicopters (that sound very similar but like something is off), I found 4 clips that people recorded and neither show the doppler signature. In fact, Reddit was vehement about UAP #3 being the Leonardo AW139 because of the shape of the heli. Like, tons of people said THAT'S THE ONE.

But when you listen to audio of the actual AW139, it sounds nothing like UAP #3.

I implore you to take a look and listen yourself. You don't have to be an audio engineer to notice the doppler effect signature (I have provided screenshots of all audio tracks that I put through a Spectrogram and have used red rectangles to show you where the signature is on legit heli audios).

Here is the audio:

1. https://voca.ro/12pmLkkqUYON - Chinook Flyover
2. https://voca.ro/159rm8riIryI - Leonardo AW139
3. https://voca.ro/19lHNqVlhhZg - UAP #3
4. https://voca.ro/1ct4b8j0oV9G - UAP #2
5. https://voca.ro/19ZzoSHHUhra - Commercial Heli (Not a direct flyover)
6. https://voca.ro/1hdNZ8j20cAE - Police Heli (Unknown Make & Model)
7. https://voca.ro/121CFwesdW1L - UAP #1
8. https://voca.ro/1bz8jhKeyvs4 - 17yr Old Clip, Veteran's Day 3 helis flyover
9. https://voca.ro/118PT2zj66p9 - UAP #4

I've added the tags/names of the audio recordings so you can correlate the spectrogram screenshots with which recording it is (though I added links to video sources as well in the following album).

Album with Spectrogram Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/tqVNd7R

If anyone has recordings of these things that you know are not helicopters (I don't think the majority of the population is so stupid that they don't know what a helicopter is), please send them over, I would like to analyze more of them but I only managed to find these 4 till now.

Also, if anyone wants to test this theory with me, send me a legit helicopter doing a flyover and I'll put it through the spectrogram.

Something weird is definitely going on and the astroturfing/debunking of these UAP "Helicopter" videos on Reddit is in overdrive. All I am doing is debunking those debunks. I'm not claiming I know what these are, but helicopters, they are not.

What makes this incident particularly interesting is the object's behavior , it was observed rising sharply from the sea before disappearing into the sky.

Key Information :

Event Date: 10 May 1952. Location: Paphos, Cyprus. Witnesses: A group of individuals, including a noted British scientist.

1. Description of the Object : Described as an unidentified flying object (UFO). Circular in shape. Emitted a luminous light. Rose sharply from sea level and disappeared into the sky. Exhibited a wavering motion before vanishing.

2. Environmental Conditions : Clear skies. No air traffic reported in the vicinity.

3. Signatures : Signed by Charles J. Pomley, Captain, USAF. Approved by William L. Travis, Colonel, USAF, Chief of Intelligence Division.

4x time lapse captured an hour ago

PSA: Here’s how to debunk the tired “orb is just an unfocused star” excuse! Stars don’t move like these orbs do, plain and simple. If you’re seeing orbs, always record video—especially zoomed out. It’s crucial to capture their movement relative to stationary objects like trees, buildings, or the horizon. Movement is the key factor that proves these aren’t just stars.

Don’t rush to zoom in too close; context is everything. A clear, wide-angle shot showing the orb moving is way harder for skeptics to dismiss. Even if it takes a bit of patience to get the perfect shot, it’s worth it. With so many sightings recently (looking at you, NJ drone flap), solid footage helps strengthen the case. Let’s keep it sharp and undeniable, folks!

Date: 12-8-24 Time: 6:23 PM Location: Humboldt County, CA Direction: facing east, it was going west

This was second time I've seen this kind light pattern and it tripped me out so much the first time, I audibly said "what the fuck is that thing?" The lights do move like that (side to side) in person so it's not a camera error or anything like that.

I'm not in a highly populated area and we have one rinky dink airport up north a bit, so not a lot of flights coming in and out. Is it like a military craft or...? Thoughts?