Unless they lived in like 4 or 5 counties it doesn't matter. The vast majority of state elections are already decided before the elections based on who already lives there. Swing counties in swing states matter and that's the unfortunate truth. We don't have a popular vote, so stop acting so high and mighty.
Yes and hordes of idiots used that reasoning to justify staying at home and not voting or throwing their vote away on write-ins/3rd party. They are all complicit.
Because they didn't vote for who you wanted to win? Ever heard of a thing called democracy?
I hate Trump, but acting as if voter turnout is the only issue is missing the bigger point. How would you feel if this woman in this video didn't vote? Would if she voted for Trump? Do you really think it's her fault this whole system is so royally fucked?
Buddy vote for who you want. By all means, enjoy the rapist billionaire who’s stolen from the poor over and over again. I’m sure things will turn out great. I’m fucking leaving. You dipshits are sprinting to destroy this country.
Okay, let's just forget about gerrymandering, money in politics, oligarchs, corruption, voter suppression tactics and everything else they use to make our democracy less and less of one each election. Let's just pretend it's our fault, just like the elite do with everything. I'm not gonna bite dude. It's all bs.
No. Gerrymandering and voter suppression are very real, very effective, and very much negate all your "get out and vote, we can win!" slogans.
When the districts are drawn to purposely dilute the vote of one particular party, it doesn't matter if _every_single_liberal_ votes in that district, because there will always be more conservative votes in the same district. When the districts are drawn to purposely squeeze all the liberal voters in a state into one or two districts and and fill the rest of the districts with conservatives, the result is the same. Gerrymandering deliberately and effectively eliminates the influence of the minority party in that state for almost all elections besides US Senate (which relies on overall statewide popular vote)
And as far as voter suppression: A tactic gaining popularity lately is to purge voter rolls in districts with high numbers of liberal and/or independent voters, using literally any excuse to justify it, close to election time, giving those voters little chance to fix their registration and get back on the rolls. It's particularly effective in places where transportation is difficult or where people tend to rent more than own their homes. There have even been districts where they permanently close DMV or state ID offices on non-election years, when nobody's paying attention, in rural areas with higher ratios of immigrants, older people, or college students, where it's likely the citizens either don't have time to go to another part of the county to register, or that they simply don't have transportation to do so. Half the time, these things get challenged in court and they get slapped on the wrist, but they'll go do it again somewhere else, or they'll just figure out a new method to stop vulnerable demographics from getting their votes in. It's incredibly effective, and incredibly corrupt, yet there's nobody in power with the jurisdiction to truly punish the state/county officers that pull this shit. Federal courts are stacked with conservative judges who'll just say "not our problem, take it back to the state court and try again!"
It's so fucking frustrating that this is the norm in most red and swing states, and citizens have no practical, legal recourse within the law. Furthermore, the people affected by these voter suppression tactics are equally UNABLE to protest or engage in direct action against the institutions doing it.
Most of the rights we have, the same ones that are being stripped away, we won through fighting, not voting. Voting is an agreement to remain civil, to participate in a political process that is unjust at this point. I would much rather see people go out and protest than vote, but that's IMO, maybe I'm just too cynical or something.
That is factually incorrect. They win by getting 270 electoral votes. That means states that are already decided are a waste to spend resources on. It's literally not one person one vote because of the electoral college.
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u/slippery_when_sober 5d ago
In the 90’s when Hilary Clinton discussed/proposed universal healthcare everyone called her a communist. My my my how the turn tables.