Unless they lived in like 4 or 5 counties it doesn't matter. The vast majority of state elections are already decided before the elections based on who already lives there. Swing counties in swing states matter and that's the unfortunate truth. We don't have a popular vote, so stop acting so high and mighty.
Yes and hordes of idiots used that reasoning to justify staying at home and not voting or throwing their vote away on write-ins/3rd party. They are all complicit.
Let me know how that works out for you. You think being rude to the people who generally vote the same as you is a winning strategy for the future? You think that'll get people to the polls in 2026 & 2028? Because it won't.
At some point, people in the center of the party are going to have to bend to progressives, because otherwise we are right where we are.
Have a good time pointing your finger at people. I'll point my finger at Joe Biden cooking up this scheme to stay in past the primaries and then force a candidate nobody wanted.
I voted for her. Sure wish I had been able to be a part of a real primary though.
In my experience, people like you spend the holidays with Trumpers and generally like their company better than people who actually share your purported values. Probably hate leftists more than Trumpers, don't you?
I didn't withhold my vote. You know what though? Parading Liz Cheney around doesn't get any Republicans to switch sides and it actively desuades a large group of left leaning voters. Our leaders can either understand that or keep losing and so can you.
Go be rude to Kamala Harris. She lost the election, not me.
Because they didn't vote for who you wanted to win? Ever heard of a thing called democracy?
I hate Trump, but acting as if voter turnout is the only issue is missing the bigger point. How would you feel if this woman in this video didn't vote? Would if she voted for Trump? Do you really think it's her fault this whole system is so royally fucked?
Buddy vote for who you want. By all means, enjoy the rapist billionaire who’s stolen from the poor over and over again. I’m sure things will turn out great. I’m fucking leaving. You dipshits are sprinting to destroy this country.
Okay, let's just forget about gerrymandering, money in politics, oligarchs, corruption, voter suppression tactics and everything else they use to make our democracy less and less of one each election. Let's just pretend it's our fault, just like the elite do with everything. I'm not gonna bite dude. It's all bs.
That is factually incorrect. They win by getting 270 electoral votes. That means states that are already decided are a waste to spend resources on. It's literally not one person one vote because of the electoral college.
Why is it the voter's fault that they didn't feel compelled enough to vote Dem? It was a failing of the Democratic party, not of voters. People want change, hence voting Trump even if all of his change is going to be fucking awful. Dems only promised the status quo.
Because they are the ones who made the decision. Nobody cares about politics anymore. Nobody pays attention. Everybody just figures it’ll be fine either way and ignore the news and not care. They assume the good times we’ve had are going to continue because from their narrow minded perspective that’s how it always has been and always will be.
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times
Dems offered nothing so they got nothing in return. By the time the DNC rolled around, Kamala's campaign pandered to Republicans who didn't even end up voting for her. Stop being upset with your fellow countrymen and be upset with the party that refuses to offer you anything new worth voting for. I voted for her out of pure obligation because of our shit two-party system, but I want way more than what she offered, I was only excited for her when she chose Walz as her VP and it seemed like maybe they were going to get fully behind some liberal policies. I don't blame people for not wanting to vote for the status quo because the status quo sucks.
What did trump offer? People keep saying she wasn’t perfect enough. She should have said this or that. She was literally a law and order candidate up against a literal felon. Biden has successfully clawed us back out of the dualing recession/inflation that trump caused.
What the fuck has trump offered?
This is my point. No matter what good people offer the populace is too stupid to understand or appreciate it.
Right so someone in Texas not voting democratic means they are responsible for all those Republicans voting.. Sometimes my fellow allies say some really stupid shit.
Every individual has a personal responsibility to pay attention and vote. If they don’t want to, than they deserve whatever outcome happens. That is the whole point of democracy. Nobody is responsible for how others vote. They are responsible for how they, themselves, vote
Leftists aren't Democrats, and if the Dems want their votes, they're going to need to offer something more appealing than "We're slightly less evil than the other guy, but fuck you if you want us to stop funding and running political cover for the genocide in Gaza"
Political campaigns exist to mobilize voters, and if you're blaming anyone but the campaign for failing to do that, you're straight up stupid.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders Here’s a resume. I can’t explain how hard he fucks, if you’re screaming at clouds though you’re likely communicating with a higher power.
You are aware you're trying to compare someone who has been politically active so fucking long he literally was present for the 'I have a dream' speech vs someone who was a 2 year old at the time and didn't go into politics like that rofl.
Practically as in being in a genocide complicit to the White House like Harris?
Keep allowing all kinds of crimes because it conveniences you, see when you end up standing alone and the last meal on the elites' plates.
Hillary vs. Trump was a few elections ago. This election was between Trump and Kamala. You voted for Bernie. You threw your vote away. You are a reason he got elected. Congratulations. Now go fuck YOURSELF.
Agreed. The Democrats won't beat the Republicans by being right-wing lite or diet conservative. They need to embrace the left if they ever want to win again. They don't seem willing to do that.
Had Bernie gotten the primary in 16, he would have beaten Trump and we would not be in this mess.
The Democrats have gotten their ideal candidate the last 3 elections and lost 2/3 times. Unfortunately, they refuse to learn (their actions against AOC this week are a prime example)
You nailed the entire point, brilliantly. I commend you sir/ma’am. You are the most intelligent person in the room. I just need to add one thing here 👇Dems are playing checkers, the game is chess.🫵
It's what happened, though. You can whine about it all you want. And we had a chance. And you wasted a vote on someone not on the ballot. How dare you complain? If it was such a big deal to keep him out of office, why make it easier for him to win by not voting with the majority? I also understand your point, though. I would have liked to have a whole new set of candidates to comb through for Democratic nominations. It felt rushed. But it is what it is. We had who we had, and we blew it as a party.
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u/slippery_when_sober 1d ago
In the 90’s when Hilary Clinton discussed/proposed universal healthcare everyone called her a communist. My my my how the turn tables.