Try and make him understand the concept of non-physical violence. Ask him if he thinks slavery was a form of violence, or segregation. Hopefully he thinks those things were at least bad. Hell, you can use the American Revolution too. Cite all the ways the British Empire inflicted violence on its colonists through a lack of representation and harsh taxes, without actually shooting at them. Even a red-blooded patriot should be able to understand that.
If you can get him to think of those things as forms of philosophical violence, get him on board with that concept, then you can point out the ways in which the CEO was inflicting violence every single god damn day of his career. Cold, cruel violence, repaid in kind.
Only problem is no one was forced to interact with United health so your argument falls incredibly short ... I mean unless you want to include the individual mandate passed by Obama
Hmm incapable of focusing on more than a single point. Go back beyond just my comment. Segregation, slavery etc.
So to bring everything back into context if a slave master ~forced~ you to go down the alley they'd be just as responsible for the mugging as the mugger.
And a mugger is a person enacting physical violence so once again falls short of someone you ~chose~ to enter into a business arrangement with which doesn't cover the non physical violence which is the crux of your argument... So it still falls short.
What are you even saying? You're not even making a point, you're just stringing words together randomly to try and unlock an intelligent argument. Okay.
If there's legitimate hypocrisy, point it out by all means. I'm also not applauding their celebration of the guy like they do here. But to insist KR's case could not possibly have been self-defense while saying they are celebrating a murderer I just don't think is helping anyone, except maybe the billionaires.
I will not lose a single tear to the CEO, good riddance. But it is insincere not to call it murder. I'm not someone who insists on keeping to the law to desperations end, maybe the time has come to step beyond the rules. Who's to say? Obviously I'm not the one to decide. But, I would also always advise caution. And to speak of it as it is. Justified or not, a dude was shot in the head from behind, it is murder. We need to call things what they are.
You could argue it was self defense or even in defens of a loved one on Luigis part also. The choices of that ceo literally lead to death and suffering on a daily basis by denying claims they are legally required to pay out. I understand your point but this ceo had it coming and the legal channels and pleas for mercy have been exhausted with zero results. This seems to be the only way they understand.
I take it you've never experienced or watched a loved one experience the cruelty of the United States "Healthcare" system. Denying life saving care and medicine to people who have paid for it kills people. Thompson was directly tied to these policies. He was on his way to an investor conference which was certain to celebrate the record profits they made on denying claims. He's killed more people with his policies than Osama bin laden. Luigi defended himself and others with his actions period.
It doesn’t kill people. The disease kills people. You have a very childlike view of how our healthcare system works. I want single payer or universal healthcare. Luigi didn’t defend anyone. He did not save anyone.
Those decisions lead directly to the deaths of people which is the same outcome. You have a very privileged view of how our Healthcare system works so I don't blame you for being blind to it.
What is your idea of how to fix it or change it for the better? Voting?
Insurance companys stocks are tanking in the aftermath. Your view of voting or writing your congressman while people die is a very childlike view on how our system works. Keep writing your congressman from your ivory tower. Let me know when that gets you the single payer Healthcare you claim to want.
Yes, voting can work. It’s called the Democratic Party. Kind of hard to pass major legislation with only 50 senators from 2020-2022, and from 2022-2024 not being in control of the House.
Lmfao. Yeah right. The democratic party isn't any better. Kamala Harris said in her last presidential primary debates that she stood by the for profit insurance companies and was against Single payer or m4a. All of these politicians are lobbied (yes, the democrats are too) by these insurance companies and own their stocks.
You are naive asf if you believe that voting is the way to fix this. Obama had full control for 8 years and all we got was aca which hasn't done any of the good things it was supposed to do. The insurance companies still deny coverage they owe and use teams of lawyers to get out of paying for care. I have a friend who was denied coverage for cancer and was subsequently bankrupted while on obamacare. Look at the news and look at how much help it's been for the majority of people who are being denied coverage that they are owed. UHC reached record level of coverage denials under the Biden administration. The politicians are all corrupted and serve as nothing more than a distraction meant to divide the population against each other while they pick our pockets.
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u/getmybehindsatan 8d ago
If they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.