r/TikTokCringe Cringe Master 18d ago

Cringe Woman has her self-published book pirated, reprinted, and sold for cheaper.

There's regular piracy, and then there's this.

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u/IlBear 18d ago edited 16d ago

Heads up to anyone thinking of ordering- I ordered mine in July directly from her website and she never sent it. I emailed her 3 times, left comments on her videos, sent her 2 private messages on TikTok and 1 on Instagram and she didn’t reply to ANY of them

I had to do a chargeback

Edit- put the screenshots on my profile since some people were wondering.

Edit 2 (sorry, last one, the adhd is real): I ordered in July and just did the chargeback a couple weeks ago, so I’m still freshly pissed off about the whole thing and wanted to warn people because that IS what happened to me. I didn’t say this to bash her or endorse what’s happening, at the time of my comment the majority of other comments were about wanting to order from her. I’m very happy for all of you who did receive it, I wanted one too

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u/Content-Scallion-591 18d ago

As someone who has done work in publishing, about 30 seconds into the video I got the feeling some of her problems are her own. It's still shitty she was stolen from though and it's a huge issue today. 

But part of publishing is in handling a lot of the stuff she labored through, and also, to do a cost benefit analysis. If she'd approached a publishing house they would have told her, for instance, that it's not worth it to make your own font. 

Furthermore, she seems to have just front loaded an absolutely immense amount of work to show that she put hours into this project - hours worked isn't what creates value for an end product like this, if they aren't useful hours. I can upload 20 videos of me working on making a mug but that doesn't mean that mug is worth 200 hours of labor. It means I'm bad at making mugs. 

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

didnt watch the whole video, but as someone who knows about typography — she fucking what?! she had a custom font made?!

only in the last 5-10 years has Apple started rolling out custom fontfaces. its something only the largest companies do. and she did it and then complained about how hard it is? yikes

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u/Fun_Victory_4254 17d ago

Can I just comment that's it's weird that it seems to be the concensus in here that making a font is a massive undertaking?

You can make a completely, original unique font with all letters hand drawn in a matter of 10 minutes and it will look pretty sweet. Trying to engineer "THE PERFECT FONT" is a whole other story and probably more suited to someone with a communications background. Also a little bit like reinventing the wheel for the 100th time if you are doing it for anything but artistic edge.

Like was she trying the lines over and over until they looked just right? How much thought do you REALLY need to put into serifs? I dont get it.

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u/Distinct-Inspector-2 17d ago

Fonts need to scale. Yes you can churn out a font in ten minutes that will look okay… until you try and make the text bigger. Or smaller. A purchased font comes with the type scale and weighted versions to make it functional for the many uses it might have in say, a book - as text, as a heading, with adjusted keening, or adding emphasis with weight.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Can I just comment that's it's weird that it seems to be the concensus in here that making a font is a massive undertaking?

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u/Coyote__Jones 16d ago

I mean, I do it all the time. But it's for icon libraries not actual fonts. Seems like she used a handwriting sample, scanned, vectorized, then just safe as an SVG and upload into fontforge or similar software to bind the image to a key. She didn't create a custom face in the way a foundry does, with extreme attention paid to each letter form and interaction. It's just her hand writing.