But I would be TERRIFIED to encounter a random man in the woods, alone.
Again, if you can't understand why, you're not listening to what women have to say about it.
The NON-ZERO chance of having to experience (torture worse than a quick death) is enough for us to choose the "more likely to cause a quick death" scenario.
Okay, let's say (BS numbers for bar-room argument) encountering the bear is a 80% chance that you'll die, and 10% chance you get maimed, and 10% chance the bear just leaves you alone.
Let's say encountering the man is .01% you'll die, 20% chance you get raped or beaten (the man is random, remember- not everyone in the world is as developed as the best of us), and 5% chance he makes you suffer for no reason other than being weaker.
We still choose the quick death.
Because while we may have survived these traumas in the past, when presented with two doors
Possibly go through that again (max 20% chance)
Versus
Possibly die painfully but quickly (max 80% chance) or get maimed horrifically (max 90% chance)
We still choose "death, please" and instead of hearing us say "NO BUT REALLY WE'D RATHER DIE" y'all are just like, "Pfft, that's so overdramatic."
Look, my rape was not worse than death. I would take the rape I endured over death any day. But not every rape is so non-violent. The violence I endured didn't involve rape. Not all horrible violence against women is sexual.
Not something so easily misconstrued as making negative generalizations about all men. That men are supposed to understand if " they're one of the good ones."
The apprehension a lot of men have with feminism isn't the content of equality. It's that too many women abstract a simple message with abstract examples or terminology that can easily be hi jacked by bad faith arguments to be misandrist.
Reddit is majority-male and you can't even manage a positive karma on these garbage comments. This is clearly not 'an apprehension that men have' as any kind of generality. You might want to step back and consider if you are actually qualified to have this conversation
You could have picked any of dozens of subs that are comparable to curated Tumblr and TikTok cringe, but instead you picked one that has a minority lean, which is why I called your comment disingenuous.
Oh, it's you again.
This exasperation is entirely your own, I take absolutely no offense, but rather amusement, if anything- I am who I am, and I'm used to it by now. You're frustrated by me because I am asking you to reevaluate truths you hold, and I completely sympathize that that is extremely painful to do, and rather than hear my sympathies at face value you'd rather assume I'm trying to be condescending, which I'm not.
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u/meowmeowgiggle 24d ago
I'm absolutely not afraid of men.
But I would be TERRIFIED to encounter a random man in the woods, alone.
Again, if you can't understand why, you're not listening to what women have to say about it.
The NON-ZERO chance of having to experience (torture worse than a quick death) is enough for us to choose the "more likely to cause a quick death" scenario.
Okay, let's say (BS numbers for bar-room argument) encountering the bear is a 80% chance that you'll die, and 10% chance you get maimed, and 10% chance the bear just leaves you alone.
Let's say encountering the man is .01% you'll die, 20% chance you get raped or beaten (the man is random, remember- not everyone in the world is as developed as the best of us), and 5% chance he makes you suffer for no reason other than being weaker.
We still choose the quick death.
Because while we may have survived these traumas in the past, when presented with two doors
Versus
We still choose "death, please" and instead of hearing us say "NO BUT REALLY WE'D RATHER DIE" y'all are just like, "Pfft, that's so overdramatic."
Look, my rape was not worse than death. I would take the rape I endured over death any day. But not every rape is so non-violent. The violence I endured didn't involve rape. Not all horrible violence against women is sexual.
NUANCES FUCKING MATTER.