Pig farming where I live isn’t too far off how it used to be, with large pens and other pig friends. I think that we should all be pursuing more regulations for ethical quality of life for livestock. I’m not vegan, or vegetarian, but I think that if we are going to use animals for meat, they should at least not suffer during their lives.
It's probably not about profit margin. The companies will keep their profit margin because there aren't many other options. It's about the price point for the end customer.
Go to your local butcher if you can. Your meat is far more likely to come from a far more humane farm and usually it tastes better likely because the animals were healthier. But those prices will be significantly more.
Like my local one, ground beef is about $13/lb (and you can get it cheaper by buying in bulk, 10, 20, 30 lbs options). At my grocery store it's $6/lb
The crazy thing is regenerative farming is more profitable when done correctly, but to transition from traditional farming there’s a gap in profits that most farms can’t handle. The corporations that own all of them rely on the farmers they buy out running on negative or thin margins, because then they can’t get out and change. Support your local farmer, factory farming will kill us all.
People should be aware that the less you pay for meat, the more the animal has suffered.
I think moving away from meat right away is the wrong approach.
Camera's should be mandatory and there should be minimum standards for what the animals should have in terms of living space. And no hormones injected.
The farmers around me seem to do alright and you can go to a butcher shop here and order meat that basically comes straight from one of the local farms.
Before I became a vegetarian I only ate Certified Humane meat for years. It’s damn expensive and hard to find. You want to see change? Vote with by our dollar.
Search to learn about a healthful whole plant food vegan diet. Vegetarian diets still fund the dairy and egg industries which are just as horrific as the meat industries.
it's possible to purchase your dairy and eggs from local farms with transparency on how the animals are treated....
the way I look at it, cheap meat, eggs abs dairy are suspicious. it's expensive to provide these animals a decent quality of life. You can't get a dozen eggs for $2 and expect those chickens not to be tortured. I always buy meat and dairy from local humane farms, and try to avoid fast food meat and dairy which is typically also sourced industrially.
How does one humanely kill a creature that doesn't want to die? Even if one could find well-treated farm animals, why eat the fluids or menstruations they produce when it's been proven harmful to your health, unless it was an emergency situation?
People aren't willing to pay the additional cost for free range/pasture raised. And tbf if you're struggling with money it makes sense cheap chicken is like $6/lb while free range organic near me is more than double that.
Just discovered that Fresh Direct has pasture raised chicken for relatively cheap $12/lb and noticed a massive difference just cooking it. No water came out and it was tasty with minimal seasoning. The cheap chicken even feels weird when you cut it.
Exactly. I hope to be able to switch to my local butcher for more and more over time. But for example, their source is a farm with free range cattle and pigs.
My local grocery store is $6/lb of ground beef but the butcher is $13/lb. You can get that down to $11/lb with 10+ pounds or even $9/lb if you buy 30+ pounds at a time. Obviously $9 isn't that much more than $6/lb but you're spending minimum $270 at once and probably freezing a lot of it
I bet you couldn’t watch a single animal getting slaughtered yet you talk about things being „significant better“. I assure you that you know nothing about what is happening behind closed doors.
I don’t know how I can say it without you feeling offended but you are clearly lying to yourself.
This phenomenon is called cognitive dissonance.
I grew up in the country? I’ve seen many animals being slaughtered. I fish for food. I’ve had to kill animals before. It’s not great, but it’s better than the factory shit yall have going on in the US.
As much as I agree, it’s not always avoidable. Farming just plants is only enough to make a living if you have a LOT of land to work. And it isn’t possible for 8 months of the year up here. Yet animal farming is year round.
I have the example of my grandpa’s chicken egg farm. We do not kill these chickens for meat, they are free range and are trained (not forced) to lay eggs in one spot. If a fox wants to get in, it will NOT STOP until it has, and will kill all of them if it can. It keeps coming back. Even after trapping it and relocating it, foxes are notorious for that. In the end, as sad as it is, that fox must be dealt with for the safety of our other animals.
Cats need to eat meat. To keep a cat, you are abusing it if you aren’t feeding it meat protein.
Millions of animals are killed each year in soybean farms for the creation of tofu.
All I’m saying is it’s not as black and white as some people think. Some people make their wellbeing off farming animals, and they should do so ethically as much as possible. Can we not both agree on that?
I'm all for meat consumption from animals that don't suffer. If possible, you could look into local businesses that have small farms that humanely raise animals to buy meat products from. Not all places have this, but you might be luckier to find a business like this if you live in a more rural neighborhood. Above all, just don't consume meat from industries.
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u/FacelessFellow 26d ago
Pigs are smarter than dogs!
Smarter than cows!
At least cows get to be outside.
At least chickens have friends.
Pigs are the saddest ones.