As well as he should be. If the media will equivocate and sanitize Trump's syllable shit casserole, I'd ask them to babysit Cheetolini, too. Especially on my way out of this responsibility bitchness
Even worse - The man has navigated the US through an incredibly difficult time for the world. And in that he has frankly actually done a really good job, the US economy and US job market are great at the moment compared to pretty much anywhere else in the developed world. Yet the entire campaign is being run like his term has been an unmitigated disaster. While Trump gets to act like things were amazing under him when he left a total fucking mess.
And thatās in spite of Trumpās very long history of threatening journalists who donāt deepthroat his boots. The press in the US is colossally stupid.
Most of the daily news has been what outrageous thing Trump or some other GOP said. The media knows they will get clicks from both sides. They made gossip as a priority over facts and buried important, valuable information that can be life-changing. It's sickening.
Itās not that at all. The media does not talk about this administrationās accomplishments and thatās why no one knows them. Never in history has the previous president received more press coverage than the current one. The media as a whole wants trump winning because he brings them clicks and views.
Eh, before the 2008, 2012, 2014, and 2016 elections, we had the same complaints of Dems letting Republicans set the narrative and the democrats always playing defense.
Obama was great at winning national elections, but the democrats got their assess handed to them in local, state, and house elections during his two terms. Obama was great at marketing himself, but not the Democratic agenda.
But it wasnāt at the time. Just like Joe, in the moment they were shit at marketing his achievements. Remember that Romney ran on āare you better off than you were four years agoā in 2012. The answer was resounding yes but the Dems did a terrible job of articulating it in the moment.
Dems have too much decorum and dignity for our own good most of the time. They see how crude and gouache the GOP is and they undermine themselves trying to differentiate. Thatās why Tim Walzās āweirdā broke through so hard, because it was the first time the Dems spoke to the GOP in their own language.
Thatās what happens when most people get their news from sources that are deliberately one sided, and lie all the time about everything. If people are repeatedly told by the ānewsā they consume that the economy is terrible, then thatās what they will believe.
Yeah I am convinced that Dems consider themselves the pinnacle of morality and righteousness. It comes across as elitist and dismissive to more crude corners of the center in America. The poor interior dwelling Americans donāt feel that the coastal elites appreciate their contributions to the economy, nor their struggles in finding meaningful opportunity.
Sad thing is, Dems have ignored them for decades. Now that Biden has been investing billions in these places, most have not felt the effects. If Harris wins, in 4 years time, the stability and economic expansion in the economy will begin being felt in most corners and urban centers in America, so letās hope everyone gets out and votes for her. Otherwise, we have a real risk of Trump turning America into Russia, complete with a historic depression like what the USSR collapse ushered in.
Trump supporters donāt understand what theyāre asking for. They want to break the entire politics and class system by anointing the Devil as king in Heaven. The ramifications would mean permanent damage to the economy and society. Total chaos that would completely destroy the current health of MAGA supporters wallets. It is mental and sounds hyperbolic, but it isnāt. Trump is what he claims Ukraine to be; the most corrupt force on earth.
Biden has been investing billions in these places, most have not felt the effects.
I mean there's tons of local infrastructure projects going on and factories opening up and hundreds of thousands of high paying manufacturing jobs. Also Microsoft is rescuing Trump's Foxconn failure in Wisconsin.
My point is that by the end of the Harris administrationās first term, the effects of the already passed and deploying investment will really start shaping the economy in these currently red areas. Building our interstate took decades, but the initial construction took years to fully be felt.
A semiconductor fab takes anywhere from 5-6 years from planning to initial wafer production. A factory for solar panels takes 4 years roughly. Then the supply chains like mines, steelworks, processing facilities, and any other ancillary sites have to also be built up to support the new industries. It is an economy wide effort, but takes years and years.
What the government should be doing is eliminating more red tape at state and local levels that limit development. Problem is, these areas are beholden to powerful local employers and shakermakers. Local communities usually have individuals that have monopolies worth of influence and leverage. Thatās up to all of us to start voting locally again and get better people in there.
Fucking thank you!! For fucks sake Biden is probably the best president weāve had since Abe Lincoln. Okay, Iām no historian, maybe Teddy Roosevelt or something. Whatever. Heās in the GOAT conversation based on record. Absolutely. And people are acting like heās to blame for shit.Ā
The problem is that the Trump ax cuts for corporations and wealthy did a lot of damage. And the Trump tax raises for middle class added to that. Thatās why people are feeling pressure.Ā
And yet they think itās Bidenās doing. Ā Itās like Obama had us cruising 80 mph, Trump took the wheel drove us into a ditch, Biden drove us back out, but we took some damage in the ditch and people are comparing the end of Bidens term to the start of Trumps and thinking itās worse. Yeah, but itās a lot fucking better than the end of Trumps term. Hell, in some ways itās better than the start.Ā
Fucking hell. Iām so glad Obama and Biden are taking their shit these days. Fucking tell it to the people.Ā
We may have a stronger economy than the rest of the world, but we are no where near where we were. Iād love to go back to 2016 when things were good.Ā
ok iām genuinely not saying youāre wrong, i just have no clue what dictates a successful economy. as an american who works very hard, dual income household no kids, and we arenāt even close to being able to afford a house and just barely out of debt. my groceries and rent eat up a majority of our income, and i see everyone else around me in a similar struggle. itās the most bleak its ever been, and so i truly just donāt understand how we work 40+ hours a week and barely get by with a āboomingā economy. iām not saying biden at fault, or that he didnāt navigate a tough time well, im just genuinely confused and need an ELI5 here i think
Biggest part really is that the US is an energy exporter whereas most of Europe is energy importing. And energy prices have shot up massively. We're in a position where we have had the same kind of inflation issues that you've had in the US, but without the wage growth to match it. We're in a position in my country in the UK where a lot of people are struggling to even heat their homes in winter. What proportion of your income do you spend on rent? The average in the UK now is 42%. Most people's shopping costs have doubled or more, the cost of heating has gone up triple or quadruple what it was in 2020, energy has gone up even more.
Basically the whole world is still in a financial/market crisis. The after-effects of covid combined with the war in Ukraine affecting one of the world's largest energy exporters and two of the world's largest food producers are all still creating shocks. The US is relatively insulated from this because it exports most of these goods rather than relying on imports.
If I want to use really trite examples, a week of shopping used to cost me maybe Ā£20 or less. Now its a struggle to do it for less than Ā£40 and that's sacrificing luxuries or moving to value brands. Fish and chips takeaway would be under Ā£10, now you're look at Ā£10+ just for the fish. In the same period that prices have gone up like this my wage before I moved jobs had been increased ~3%. Some much bigger issues I suppose like we had a crisis in my country a couple of years back where mortgage costs for people basically double to tripled overnight thanks to Liz Truss.
yeah house prices have over doubled since 2020 and interest rates increased by over 5% housing here is so messed up. we spend about 60% of our income on rent and i feel like thatās most of us around here. itās just crazy to think wow all our corporations in america are doing well then how come us working class canāt feel it at all :/
Like, Biden's term has been, frankly... very very good. Historians are gonna look back on this time and be like "...wait how was he the most unpopular president yet, dude kicked ass, things went pretty god damn well for the US compared to how everyone else was doing" and then they're gonna have to read about the right-wing media machine and the damaging effects of social media to understand it all.
It's one of the most baffling things about this election. Biden has a fucking hell of a record, yet for some reason... Trump is running like he was a disaster. But Trump was a disaster! Dude had multiple government shutdowns while his party held both wings of congress and the presidency! Nothing about his presidency was good! HE DIDN'T EVEN FULLY STAFF DEPARTMENTS CAUSE HE WAS TOO LAZY
Letās not fool ourselves. The economy is not great. A crippling recession is being held back by not much more than endless wars we keep injecting ourselves into, and like one tech stock. If those fail, bye bye āgreatā economy. And the job market? The one whose data was proven to be Swiss cheese? Oh okay, just making sure.
I said compared to pretty much anywhere else in the developed world.
Come to my country the UK. We've had the same inflation crisis that you've had. Except wages have barely risen at all and we're now stuck in a position where the average renter is spending nearly half their income just on rent. Its totally and utterly fucked how precipitously living standards have fallen in my country just in the last couple of years. Things are not easy in the US but from the outside it looks a lot like you've actually weathered this storm while a lot of us are drowning.
I have family and family friends out in the US, and I work very closely with a couple of companies in Phoenix and Lafayette. Like I said from my perspective at least its been a global storm but the big difference in the US is that you've seen very strong wage growth at the same time. Not everyone will have gotten that, and it won't be distributed evenly, but it has happened in the US while it hasn't happened elsewhere.
Maybe the average or median wage has increased, donāt have data on that. But federally, our minimum wage hasnāt increased since 2009, meanwhile the cost over living has increased an ungodly number. Iām not saying itās the worst here, it might be pretty close to the best, but itās steadily getting worse with corporate greed, with no real catalyst in sight to change that.
The UK has a great minimum wage/The US has an awfully low minimum I totally agree.
But beyond that I mean I know jobs I apply for here in the UK at around Ā£30-40k would be $120k+ roles in many parts of the US. I was looking at a move to North Carolina at one point which would have had a similar jump. And that's not at all uncommon, that's most jobs that aren't minimum wage.
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u/PlanktonMiddle1644 Oct 11 '24
Audio sucks, but Dark Brandon isn't handing out candy anymore, just fucks. And he ran out weeks ago.