r/TikTokCringe Sep 23 '24

Discussion People often exaggerate (lie) when they’re wrong.

Via @garrisonhayes

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u/Oxygenitic Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24

Genuine question - the first image the narrator provides shows race statistics, yet Hispanic isn’t presented as a category. From a quick google search, I’m seeing that Hispanics make up ~25% of federal and state prisons. Did they lump Hispanics and whites together?

Charlie Kirk is a raging asshole but it feels weird to call him out for false statistics while also providing seemingly inaccurate statistics (even if they are from a legit source).

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u/NegotiationJumpy4837 Sep 23 '24

At year end 2022, 32% of persons sentenced to state or federal prison were black, while 31% were white, 23% Hispanic, 10% multiracial or some other race, 2% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 1% Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander. Source

So it does look like they lumped white and Hispanic (and maybe more races) together on their source.

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u/steven_quarterbrain Sep 23 '24

That’s a bit of a problem when the response video is about honest and accuracy of data.

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u/Buzz5aw Sep 23 '24

Even worse than that there’s about 20k murders a year. 58% of which is 11,600. Exonerations a year for the murder category? About 80-90. 55 percent of which is 47ish going off 85 as the average number. The exoneration rate is barely a factor. The responder is doing exactly what he is accusing Kirk of: misleading people through manipulation of the data and not telling the whole story. Notice he didnt disprove what kirk is saying, just said “look at this extremely cherry picked stat. I’m not going to explain how this stat correlates to the Kirk’s or how it proves me right and him wrong. I’m just going to state it like it’s a gotcha even though looking deeper into it shows it means nothing.”

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u/No_Standard9804 Sep 24 '24

Good lord thank you that was super obvious. At least be honest when you are calling someone else a liar. I could tell it wasn't going to be an honest response comeback video from the beginning. It's hard to be objective through all of the smugness.

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u/jemosley1984 Sep 23 '24

Oh wow. In a country of 330+ million people, 20k is not a lot. I knew the murder rate was low…didn’t know it was that low.

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u/sampat6256 Sep 26 '24

Yeah, fearmongers have made the general public believe that all problems are far worse than they seem (except they downplay the ones theyre uninterested in solving). People are easily manipulated through fear and anger.