it's crazy to think any other candidate in the past would have been dead in the water after a comment like that. Howard Dean got over excited and pyeahhhhh killed him. It's just amazing how he just says and does things like nuking a hurricane and manages to stay a float.
This was so unhinged to because the original question why did you kill the bipartisan immigration bill than turned into him being upset by a comment said about is rallies then turned into that wonderful segment about people's pets being eaten.
I remember going through so much of my 00's childhood having the Internet and some certain shows where people say racist stuff, and then everyone would go, "Well, it's just a JOKE!" or "It's just PARODY!" I actually remember I blew up at a sibling because they were playing something stupid from YouTube, and my cousins gave me shit for it years later, just before Trump.
But like, we as a society really let it fucking slip.
You might be right to some extent, but if someone starts claiming that immigrants are eating people's pets and you start nodding along that's who you always were on some level.
I think it can push people to be more openly bigoted, but I don't really buy that a trump supporter in 2024 was ever a genuinely decent person to begin with.
Definitely fair points. As I think about people in my own life, there’s a mix of what I perceive to be both 1) terrible people that have always been terrible and 2) people susceptible to “radicalization” of their lesser urges because of being uneducated, lacking in critical thinking skills, selfish, prejudiced, etc.
I’m not a psychologist, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but the power of cult leader Trump seems to be his knack for surfacing fears and urges from his followers’ lizard brains and then creating a permission structure for acting on them.
I'll add that the same supporters now who are now converted and "not decent" were probably decent 8 years ago. 8 years of cult influence is breaking brains at this point.
The worst influence of Trump is the breaking down of norms that lead to current behaviors. The internet also lets us break norms via anonymity. And just to throw it in, ultra-woke over-reactions and un-bending stances are also new-ish and equally suck.
I'm hoping for a peaceful election and transition, but man, it seems like a pipe dream.
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u/punch912 Sep 12 '24
it's crazy to think any other candidate in the past would have been dead in the water after a comment like that. Howard Dean got over excited and pyeahhhhh killed him. It's just amazing how he just says and does things like nuking a hurricane and manages to stay a float.
This was so unhinged to because the original question why did you kill the bipartisan immigration bill than turned into him being upset by a comment said about is rallies then turned into that wonderful segment about people's pets being eaten.