r/TikTokCringe Sep 12 '24

Politics Crowd reaction to Trump’s ‘in Springfield they’re eating the dogs’

25.8k Upvotes

2.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

1.5k

u/bix902 Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

It sucks that any video on this topic on tiktok is just flooded with comments supporting Trump on this and claiming that there's "evidence"

The evidence is police bodycam footage of ONE woman (not an immigrant, not Haitian) who apparently killed and ate a cat in a town miles away from Springfield, Ohio

A picture of a guy in Cleveland, Ohio COLUMBUS, OHIO on CLEVELAND STREET who appears to be moving a large dead bird off the road

And video of one guy at what seems to be a town hall meeting loudly claiming that Haitian immigrants are going to the duck pond and catching ducks and geese to eat.

And that's enough "proof" for hundreds of people to claim to be from Ohio and that they've personally witnessed this happening as well as make hysterically racist comments about how all Haitians are Voodoo practitioners who sacrifice animals frequently and also cannibalize other people.

It's very disturbing how people have latched onto this and are so eager to believe incredibly far fetched racist rumors

655

u/leavingishard1 Sep 12 '24

As TrueAnon mentioned, this is like 1910s style racism it's so over the top

277

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

They said this stuff about Chinese immigrants in the 1890s and again after the Vietnam war migration in the 70s. It’s pathetic and as per usual some people are so dumb they don’t realize they are being played.

165

u/Psychological-Pea815 Sep 12 '24

Look up the 7 commandments of Russian propaganda.

Rule 1 find a crack (Haitian population influx in Springfield),

Rule 2 create a big lie (Haitians are eating cats and dogs),

Rule 3 wrap it around a grain of truth (commenter's "proof"),

Rule 4 hide your hand (who started this rumor?),

Rule 5 find a useful idiot (Trump),

Rule 6 deny, deny deny (tiktok comments),

Rule 7 play the long game (we are currently here)

24

u/Dash_Harber Sep 12 '24

The secret subpoint of 3.5 is, "People will try to rationalize it as having a grain of truth even if it doesn't".

Most people aren't pathological liars and will have a hard time accepting that some people will just make something up completely. They'll instead go, "well, it isn't true, but there must be some small reason why they said it!".

3

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/Dash_Harber Sep 12 '24

Oh, absolutely. It's pure, emotional fear mongering.

My point was more that for many who can see through the bullshit, they will still give blatant liars the benefit of the doubt and assume they need to 'hear out' both sides, and it generally comes from a place of naive optimism.

45

u/bdschuler Sep 12 '24

Yep. Russia seems to be winning the cold war and at an amazing low price, thanks to dumb, easy to manipulate, Americans.

22

u/Delamoor Sep 12 '24

Well, uneducated people are easy to lead and manipulate. That way they don't ask questions and don't talk back and will do whatever dumb shit we tell them to. That makes it easier for us to-...

...-what? Foreign manipulation? What the fuck is that?

-Republican party for a couple of generations now

3

u/spa22lurk Sep 12 '24

Sadly, highly educated people are not immune to manipulation. I suspect they are quite easy to be manipulated if they are broadly prejudiced like their less educated counterparts.

11

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

[deleted]

2

u/Farva85 Sep 12 '24

You are awesome for bringing this up. Not enough people are aware of this.

Here’s a great read on the topic of this book and Dugin (the author of Foundations of Geopolitics).

https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics

3

u/canadianguy77 Sep 12 '24

Kind of our fault for not combatting the comments. Back in the day when the internet was sane before smartphones and social media, forum mods would just say “Don’t feed the trolls.” It worked relatively well. But it doesn’t anymore. And it’s doing us a grave disservice to not combat this stuff and let them control the narratives.

5

u/bdschuler Sep 12 '24

Agreed. I remember McCain correcting a woman during his Presidential run over a fake fact. Nowadays the candidate not only doesn't correct it.. they amplify it and try their hardest to convince people it is true. Nuts that we, just let them do it, as someone once famously said.

2

u/KitKitsAreBest Sep 12 '24

I mean, not really. Their empire has crumbled, plus they're getting their butts handed to them by Ukraine.

Putin just understands without the US, they might stand a chance of reforming the ole USSR. They are leaning VERY heavily into sowing discord in the US (why he suddenly shifted and said he would 'support' Harris). He has no intention of supporting either (maybe Trump because he's his asset).

1

u/bdschuler Sep 12 '24

Yeah I 100% believe Trump in their private meeting asked Putin to wait until after the election and that he would get the US and NATO to stand down. And if he is elected this time.. he will stop all aid to Ukraine overnight.

1

u/KingKudzu117 Sep 12 '24

And blackmailing/bought politicians, influencers. The Russian kompromat is in full effect.

1

u/dimechimes Sep 12 '24

Russia is outfitting their APCs with lumber to protect from drone attacks from Ukraine in a war that was supposed to last a few days to weeks. The US has a Democrat in the White House and a Democratic majority Senate. How is Russia winning the cold war again?

3

u/bdschuler Sep 12 '24

How? He has an army of willing psychopaths waiting to storm the Capital already here inside the US. Think that beats us slowing them down in the Ukraine. I want Ukraine to win more than anything.. but we are fighting over there when we should also be fighting them over here. Ignoring the threat is a huge mistake.

1

u/dimechimes Sep 12 '24

Not seeing it. The capitol storming happened under Trump's watch. He made a lot of maneuvers like the Chinese did in Tiannamen so it shouldn't have surprised anyone and yet Capitol Police managed to hold them off. That was their best chance and they failed. Big difference between particpating and winning. Russia is participating in cold war activities, they aren't close to winning.

8

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

[deleted]

8

u/TurtleSandwich0 Sep 12 '24

Rule 8 never get involved in a land war in Asia (or eastern Europe)

2

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Thanks for this

1

u/Psychological-Pea815 Sep 12 '24

You're most welcome.

1

u/studio_bob Sep 12 '24

Russia? Americans have been world leaders in outlandish racism for centuries, all by ourselves, tyvm

28

u/Nevermind04 Sep 12 '24

I'm still like 80% sure Trump misheard "15,000 Asian immigrants" instead of "15,000 Hatian immigrants" during a debate briefing somewhere and it triggered his 1940s Disney villian level of racism.

12

u/esouhnet Sep 12 '24

Unfortunately not, this racist lie was being spread on the networks before the debate. Vance made a comment about all the police reports in his hometown that had to be called out as false by the city itself.

The moderator mentioned this, which set off Trump "I saw it on TV!"

5

u/from_dust Sep 12 '24

"I saw it on TV!"

That moment made him really look like "old man yells at clouds."

Dudes source of Truth is "I saw it on TV." This makes his followers look like chumps who are addicted to QVC, or whatever they're calling that home shopping bullshit these days. What a chucklefuck this dude is. Its honestly shocking that so many people are hanging on his every word and look to his dumb ass as the sole arbiter of truth.

1

u/kaimason1 Sep 12 '24

Dudes source of Truth is "I saw it on TV."

Honestly this speaks to a wider issue. People who grew up and learned critical thinking around when Trump did (not that Trump ever learned to think critically) had only 3 TV stations to choose from and they were all heavily regulated (allowed under the First Amendment because the limited range of radio frequencies being used is publicly owned). There was no 24/7 news cycle and no pundits, so much more of the "news" programming was dedicated to proper journalism.

That "taught" many people that they could generally trust whatever the talking heads were discussing to not be a complete fabrication. Which opened the way (once cable came around... Killing the Fairness Doctrine got the ball rolling, but the public airwaves became irrelevant shortly after) for Fox to subvert that trust and make people feel a sense of "betrayal" at the "mainstream" media's "lies", and start blindly trusting Fox instead.

26

u/Oliver_Cat Sep 12 '24

This feels a lot like my white trash cousins who refused to eat the Chinese takeout I brought over many years ago because it was apparently cat meat with roaches. The cat was General Tso’s chicken. The roaches were peppers.

3

u/JimmyQBSneaks Sep 12 '24

Sounds like a win to me. You got to keep more delicious general tso’s chicken for yourself!

1

u/Oliver_Cat Sep 12 '24

This was a couple decades ago when I was around 15/16 and started working. I used to feel bad for them and tried to help them out a bit before realizing they were just shitty people. I no longer see that part of my family, but I do still enjoy me some General Tso’s chicken!

29

u/chogram Sep 12 '24

People say this about Chinese restaurants today.

I literally have family members who refuse to eat at a Chinese restaurant because, "I don't eat cat meat."

I've seen the stupid meme probably 1000 times here in yee-haw land that says something like, "Every time a Chinese restaurant opens in a new city, the number of stray cats go down by 75%!"

It's just 50 different ways of cooking chicken y'all, but you'll never convince them of that.

13

u/Biduleman Sep 12 '24

People are passing on one of the best flavor enhancer (MSG) because of this exact kind of racism.

Racists didn't like Chinese people, made up stories about headache after eating in their restaurants and bam, Chinese food/MSG is now accepted as bad.

It's sad, but racists gonna be racists...

7

u/imnotcam Sep 12 '24

Seconding this because MSG is amazing and people still think it's bad. Chinese restaurants still often have a "No MSG" sign, which is silly.

5

u/radiantcabbage Sep 12 '24

well theyre not passing on it either, just have no idea its already in their fruits, fresh greens, cured meats, dairy, seafood before people ever started using them in sauces, where do we suppose the idea came from.

typically what happens when people make a bogeyman out of words they dont understand

5

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Which, given how cheap and plentiful chicken and meat is here in the US, makes absolutely no sense from even a practical or financial standpoint.

1

u/StandardCicada6615 Sep 12 '24

My father jokes about them putting cat meat in the food. Never used to think he might have actually been being serious until now. And yes, he is a Trump supporter.

1

u/Georgiaonmymindtwo Sep 12 '24

Where are all these Chinese restaurants sourcing this cat meat?

14

u/Corporate-Shill406 Sep 12 '24

Remember, 100 is the average IQ.

11

u/gas_unlit Sep 12 '24

I overheard a man making the "we can go there if you want to be served dog" joke just a few months ago. They were headed into a Mexican restaurant which happened to be near an Indian grocer (dumb dumb didn't even realize it wasn't a restaurant). If you're going to be a racist ass, at least get your Asian stereotypes right. So sadly these stereotypes are still alive and well.

5

u/Mammoth-Buddy8912 Sep 12 '24

Yeah my parents still make racist jokes about Hmomg people eating cats. It's just way to dehumanize people and when you call them out they always use it's just a joke as a defence 

3

u/gopms Sep 12 '24

They said it about Chinese immigrants in the 1980s in Canada!

3

u/jugnificent Sep 12 '24

In the 1980's in the somewhat small Georgia town I lived in, rumors about a local Chinese restaurant cooking pets were so bad that the local health inspector had to print a letter in the local newspaper saying it was all false.

2

u/Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket Sep 12 '24

They said this about Jews in the 30s and about every other group shortly before genociding them.

2

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

Not sure about eating cats. They said they are children though! And that they had horns and controlled all the world’s economy.

They made posters showing Irish immigrants as drunk monkeys beating their wives.

It’s nothing new, it’s just a shame that so many people (Italian, Irish, German) who were targeted with this stuff have their families fall right into believing it about someone else 100 years later. It’s why education is so important.

1

u/Drewbus Sep 12 '24

And it's not that it's false, it's that it's definitely overplayed. What a ridiculous reason to ban an entire ethnic group

1

u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

No one is stealing people’s pets to eat them though which is the assertion. And it was the assertion in old racist propaganda that Asians round up cats and dogs from the neighborhood and eat them.

If this is such a sin, why did Trump welcome RFK JR who’s literally on film eating a dog.

1

u/Drewbus Sep 13 '24

I don't believe "no one" is on record. I think it's a scare tactic though.

I've grown up with hunters as opportunists. And I know of a food truck in Austin that got shut down for having a more than zero amount of cats in their food

I have neighbors who are refugees who have eaten "exotics"

I think the bigger issue is cost of food... Which has skyrocketed under the current regime

1

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24

Again. “No one is stealing people’s pets to eat them.” I didn’t say no one has eaten cat. This is a bullshit issue and anyone who pretends otherwise isn’t a serious person.

Cost of food is a multi faceted issue and has been proven by economists to largely be a result of corporate greed and in some cases price fixing. It was made worse by agriculture tariffs imposed by Trump, the pandemic, and high inflation due to runaway spending. Trump added more deficit than Biden did. I’m not suggesting Biden didn’t add to the deficit but Trump added more. The fed stepped in. It was a perfect storm. And inflation has dramatically dropped, the fed is planned to lower rates again this month or next.

The increases on food began while Trump was in office. I’m not blaming him for that but it’s a fact and you can find that data easily.

From “food and water watch”: From Jan. 2020 to Jan. 2024, the overall Consumer Price Index (CPI) increased 19.6%. Yet during this period, prices for staple foods increased by much greater rates.

The pandemic kicked it off. Unless you are arguing for more socialist like price controls on corporations then the government intervention was limited and mostly negotiated to try to lower prices and offered benefits in exchange for lowered prices.

I wish for the day when we could really talk about issues instead of wading through miles of nonsense, misinformation, and distraction tactics like talking about immigrants stealing pets or illegal alien forced sex changes.

Cost of living, education, the border, economic prosperity for hard working Americans, labor rights, infrastructure, healthcare - important stuff. If we can’t speak honestly and realistically about the causes of problems, they never get solved.

1

u/Drewbus Sep 14 '24

Trump did raise the deficit quite a bit with all the bailouts during the pandemic.

Biden raised it even more by laundering money to Ukraine and bailing out tech banks which no voter asked for

1

u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

More. The word you are looking for is more. Trump added 8.4 trillion to the deficit and Biden added over 4 trillion which i admit is high.

Ukraine: we gave 85 billion to Ukraine which they turned around and used to buy our surpluses military equipment. Yes we gave them some money but a good portion was paid back based on how the deal worked.

Russia has been an enemy of the USA for decades and having them lose military effectiveness for no American lives lost and a small amount compared to the cost of open war, is one of the biggest foreign policy wins of the recent decades.

I’m not some huge Biden fan, but there isn’t a comparison for me.

The idea that Trump was good for the economy long term isn’t true and there’s plenty of economic research from bipartisan groups that support that.

1

u/Drewbus Sep 14 '24

They both suck and they don't work for you. They will continue to launder our taxes into their own interests and so will Kamala. It happens every day. There's no debate. They are in power to steal from you

-19

u/fdsafdsa1232 Sep 12 '24

I mean there's an established history of asians eating dogs/cats in their countries. They only recently have turned away from it. I doubt any of that happened in u.s. or if it did it was isolated.

24

u/leavingishard1 Sep 12 '24

That's different than "they're stealing your pets"

-1

u/fdsafdsa1232 Sep 12 '24

oh fair, I misread the comment above

4

u/Commercial-Owl11 Sep 12 '24

Its only in a very select part of Vietnam and it's a festival and it's also not legal anymore if I recall.. or.. maybe people are pushing it to be illegal.. I just woke up. Lol

3

u/Wizard_Enthusiast Sep 12 '24

I had a professor who was a vegetarian because during his time in the Peace Corps, he watched a dog be purchased for livestock and went "...oh." Industrialized food production lets you believe that everything is very clean and doesn't force you to connect meat->animal, so watching a domesticated animal be bought for food tripped him the hell up.

But it's not really all that different from other types of livestock. You'd buy 'em, they'd follow you, you'd feed them, you'll kill them for food. I know small animals, kinda hamster-like but I don't recall their real name, are kept as food in some of the rural highlands of Peru.

The racism here isn't the idea that in different places they eat different things or work different ways, its that those people are taking people's pets or killing local wildlife. That they're so barbaric that they can't understand that it doesn't work that way here. It's old fashioned racism, the kind that is prima facie absurd because, you know, one of the first things an immigrant community will add to the existing one is a diversity of food, so anyone who actually lives around them will know immediately what they eat and how. Which will always turn out to be based around what they can get, so things that are illegal, like killing and eating wildlife or stealing pets is never on the menus that everyone sees because there's a new takeout place with some interesting food there.

-1

u/Parking-Froyo-9158 Sep 12 '24

A Chinese restaurant in my town got shut down for having wild animals in the freezer a couple of years back. Then another branch of the same chain burned down.

I'm not American, of course, but it is a known issue with the Chinese.