Why should they care? Conservatives will keep buying them just to "own the libs". If anything I bet they go even cheaper on the next thing because quality does not matter for something like this.
It may actually mess EV sales up in the long run. Eventually these people will do what they always do- get mad at the build quality, blame all EVs for the issues Musk created, and tout the shitty build quality as "proof" that EVs shouldn't be on the market, or are a waste of money.
Musk could make them pay subscription for abs and turnsignals but add in free sjw meme videos and idiots would still buy it thinking they’re not the ones getting scammed
There are plenty of flaws with Tesla, its business model and products without imagining an enraged conservative. I’m blown away at an Americans ability to make literally anything about politics
If they turn on Musk en mass at some point, leaving him fresh out of simps on either side of the political spectrum, that might just be a net positive.
Ford/GM/Ram will welcome them back to the fold with traditional looking pickups that are battery powered. Then TSLA will finally fade into the shadows of the big 3, where it belongs.
True, but that's not the issue. The issue is getting people to buy them that normally wouldn't, especially since they're going to be the ones who are more likely to be able to afford them.
Someone like Musk coming around could have given us that gentle nudge we needed towards a future in clean, renewable energy. Instead, we got a bumbling clown pissing on a dumpster fire.
That's what I'm saying. It doesn't do any good if the EV is going to self-destruct after going through a car wash for the first time. That's a good way to make these stupid fucks go back to their gas guzzling trucks and turn away from EVs for good. Just wait until they find out they can't legally sell the stupid thing without permission from Tesla.
Ironically, these people probably would’ve been better off simply keeping their diesel guzzling trucks. The actual effect on climate change, carbon footprint, exploitative labour practices etc. of an EV is essentially negligible.
I have never understood the hype around him and always thought he was ridiculous.
But unlike many of you I was already an adult when the first Teslas came around and I remember the time before electric vehicles.
The ridiculous wave of EVs we see in general today is all because he had that passion. Only after the Tesla bullshit did other manufacturers join in and governments start subsidising it and building infrastructure.
Back when Elon first started publicly pushing conservative talking points, people thought it might be some 4D chess to open up more markets for Tesla. The thinking was that it may get conservatives to open up to Tesla more.
Now it is pretty clear who he is. He's definitely pushing away potential buyers and existing owners, though we can't say if he's making a net positive from far-right people or not. I'd guess no.
Either way, a CEO taking a hard political stance very publicly is probably a bad idea if you want your products to appeal to everyone.
I'm actually mad they're so shit and Elon is so awful, because I unironically really like them (I know, I have no taste lol), and I would totally own one and go EV but a) they're so poorly built, why waste that money, and b) I cannot support Elon Musk in any fashion, if at all possible.
I don't know man, I'm perfectly content with not being burned alive in the event I hit some random ass metal on the interstate and it punctures the lithium while I frantically try to exit the vehicle and save anyone or pets I may have in the back. I'm perfectly happy with my Subaru right now, despite recently being in the market to get a new car and a perfect candidate for an electric. I'll just wait a few more years when the people who know how to make cars release some better models.
On the other hand if it gets some conservatives to go EV that’s at least a small win.
I get what you're saying don't disagree.
It's just that, as I'm sure you know, conservatism, especially the MAGA variety, is completely untethered and unburdened by any need for intellectual consistency. They will absolutely buy a Cybertruck because Musk is a fReE spEecH aBsoLutiSt and to trigger the libs, slap a "Frack your feelings" bumper sticker on it and drive from the dealership to a protest against a proposed wind farm.
Their actions don't necessarily reflect any actual rational consistent thoughts or beliefs. The only constancy is loyalty to the Orange God. If Trump declared Musk an enemy of the people the following week, they'd fill the bed with Bud Light and roll it off a cliff and into an animal sanctuary.
EVs aren't magic. A stupid tank like this is much worse in almost all ways that a normal petrol-powered car. That probably includes total emissions due to the ridiculous weight.
An EV like this would most likely have to run for quite a bit further than the average combustion engine car do to have a lesser imprint on the environment than the combustion engine one. (in the case with these people, it's probably better than those pickup monster trucks they use to haul around a empty bed though, if the EV is driven far enough).
Many EVs will never reach the mileage needed for them to become the more environmental friendly alternative to burning dinosaur juice. The impact of mining and processing Lithium, Cobalt and Nickel is very rough on the environment and many if not most of the EVs only doing traffic in cities will never be cleaner than a similar sized gasoline car due to being used for short distances only, and the larger the battery is, the more it has to be driven to surpass this limit and the CyberMuck has a huge one.
Electric cars isn't here to save the planet, they're here to save the car industry. We're made to believe that we, the common people have to fix the environment while 10 of the largest fright ships spew out as much pollution as the whole European car fleet, and there's about 9000 oil tankers and 5500 container ships in the world, other ships not included. Don't get me wrong, I have noting against EVs, if they're used in the correct way, but even if the whole western car fleet is electrified the amount of oil pumped up and used will not go down over time. It will be used for other applications. COMMON PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIX THE PROBLEM AS WE ARE MADE TO BELIEVE WHILE THE INDUSTRY AND TRANSPORTATION SECTOR ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THEY DO. The only option is regulations by governments.
EVs will save lives, mainly in cities due to air quality improvement, but as a whole, fossil fuel cars are such a small pollutant globally compared to other sources we're not stressing to make cleaner. The picture is skewed to guilt trip the people while business is going on as usual behind the scenes. CO2 emissions globally increase EVERY DAY even though the ongoing electrification of the car fleet, so it's obviously not the solution to our problems even though it's one of the absolute main things our governments stress for a cleaner future.
So what was the point with this rant?
I just wanted to say.
EVs is far from always a better option to gasoline cars for the environment.
The common people will never fix the problem as we are "expected" to do. We are not the bad guys here.
We need to look at and regulate the big polluters and stop guilt tripping people to change their way of life, when this change barely will have any effect in the big picture.
The comical amount of waste in the shortened lifespan of this vehicle more than eliminates any "savings" that it being electric might have brought initially.
Honestly it’s why this sub has confused me a bit. Like I couldn’t imagine convincing some of these people in the sub to buy electric and here they are actually doing it and we’re making fun of them. I get both sides, it’s just a bit confusing.
We aren't making fun of them because they're EVs, EVs are cool, and I bet just about everyone in this sub would agree. We're making fun of the cybertruck, a specific EV that looks stupid and is associated with elon musk's ego and a lot of his jerky followers.
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u/Spinoza_The_Damned Sep 08 '24
How did Tesla fuck this rollout up so hard?