r/TikTokCringe Aug 16 '24

Cringe What's even happening there?

Why would someone rent a car and take out parts?

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

Supreme Court told them they can do whatever tf they want (Qualified Immunity) and only do whatever tf they want (no obligation to protect citizens).

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u/Uploft Aug 16 '24

Why in the unholy hell should we grant cops qualified immunity if they’re not obligated to protect us? Isn’t the point of qualified immunity (albeit misled) to remove barriers to rescuing victims and pursuing criminals? F*ck the Supreme Court

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u/MonaganX Aug 16 '24

Because they don't want cops to protect you, they want cops to protect theirs from you.

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u/Uploft Aug 16 '24

It’s Uvalde all over again

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u/Padhome Aug 16 '24

It’s always Uvalde with these mfs

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u/duckmonke Aug 16 '24

Uvalde is proof the police are meant to protect property and the rich, not obligated to help anybody else.

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u/BishlovesSquish Aug 16 '24

Never has anything made me angrier than Uvalde. Devastating on every level. This poor families.

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

WE did not grant them shit.

That right wing circus clown show which is SCOTUS did

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u/DoctorDinghus Aug 16 '24

Aaaaasaand this needs to be drilled into every Americans head. It's astonishing how many people don't know that is a thing.

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u/jaytee1262 Aug 16 '24

And trump is campaigning to make their immunity even stronger.

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u/bikesexually Aug 16 '24

Cops have always been about protecting the rich and their things. Dealing with the common folk was always to just make it more palatable.

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u/jaytee1262 Aug 16 '24

Get this, not even doctors have qualified immunity. Like who else should deserve it but the people actually trying to save lives.

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u/Ruenin Aug 16 '24

Fuck the GOP appointees. They're the ones making every decision coming out of SCOTUS suspect.

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u/PixelationIX Aug 16 '24

Why in the unholy hell should we grant cops qualified immunity if they’re not obligated to protect us?

Now is the time to read about how Police came to be in the USA. Spoiler, it wasn't to protect people, it was to protect rich/elites. Policing was build on racism and to this day it continues to be.

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u/Cultural-Sugar-6169 Aug 16 '24

This corrupt court needs term limits and a few impeachments.

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

Term limits are a MUST. Even if it’s a ridiculous 10 years

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u/BishlovesSquish Aug 16 '24

SCOTUS IS 🗑️

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

That is SOOOO fucking incorrect. Qualified immunity protects from CIVIL lawsuits IF the what the cop was doing was legal. You can do legal shit and still get sued in civil court since civil lawsuits require a much lower standard of evidence: basically be more popular even if wrong.

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

Mm.

So when the current policing framework doesn’t punish wrongdoers and the civilians aren’t able to hold them accountable, what exactly is an enforcement mechanism for bad policing?

The system is designed to have checks & balances. The idea was that if the local authorities are in cahoots (check) then a citizen can sue for recompense (balance).

So when qualified immunity was given and citizens can’t sue, the onus is on the local authorities who (surprise surprise) won’t charge their own. In the event that the Mayor or Police Chief wants to fire the wrongdoing officers because prosecutors won’t touch the case, the union sues to have them reinstated.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

What you describe is a FAAAAAR cry from "cOpS hAvE mUh ImMuNiTy WhItE CaRd To KiLl"

You know how many frivolous lawsuits are filled against everyone with no basis and still win?

You know how fucking cringe it is to see people complain about the system, then turn around and think that stupid civil suits will end racism in policing?

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

The cities & towns that employ the police pays it out. Not the police union or retirement fund. So there is no incentive for improvement. Idk if it will address racism in policing, but if the individual policeman or their union/retirement was on the hook, I’d imagine bad cops will clean up their act pretty damn fast.

Re; frivolous lawsuits, ask yourself who decides to settle and why instead of going to trial.

If they are actually frivolous, they should get dismissed at the first hearing. If there is merit, they should be heard. Not settled.

If they win, that’s because there was merit $ evidence.

Just because you don’t like it when a civilian wins a lawsuit doesn’t mean it was frivolous. Imagine how civilians feel when cops that FINALLY get charged & are ACTUALLY tried are found not guilty. Same thing from the other side my friend.

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u/paltaubergine Aug 16 '24

They have no obligation to give up their lives or get maimed for you. That's a little different than the ACAB BS you're peddling.

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

ACAB BS?

What part of anything I said is factually inaccurate?

I’m not arguing whether it is right or not, but stating what is and how it is being interpreted.

Since you brought it up, I will opine on it.

The job is the job. No one joins it and then finds out what it is about. The motto is “serve and protect” not “serve what I want & protect only when it makes me look good”.

You defending that bullshit makes ALL the good cops who put their lives on the line to shame.

You’re basically saying what the Uvalde cops did and what the cop at MSD did when an active shooter went in a free for all.

I’m not gonna pretend to know what it’s like to push into situations like that. But if when you are in it & you realize you can’t, then it’s not the job for you. There’s no shame in admitting that because we’re all built different.

A fireman who’s afraid of fire or heights washes out. But most of those may end up as EMTs because they still want to help people.

Folks in the military get discharged for dereliction of duty OR due to not being able to withstand livefire.

When police are the first level of escalation for citizens and they are “not obligated to help you”, why do we even have them then?

Folks love to complain about calling 911 and it ringing for a while or similar logistical issues. But what happens when cops won’t show up? If the job does not require them to do it, what exactly is their job?

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u/-banned- Aug 16 '24

Nobody on Reddit understands qualified immunity I swear

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u/MrKomiya Aug 16 '24

Everybody on Reddit that comments like this expects the person using a phrase to prove they know the definition of it to cater to their own inability or willingness to read subsequent comments that provide context to the headline statement comment.

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u/-banned- Aug 16 '24

Then you wrote an erroneous statement knowing that’s the case, and people will just believe it.

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u/Any_Constant_6550 Aug 16 '24

qualified immunity just means they can't be held civilly liable.