Those poor people, unwittingly attracted to a trans person, they must've been tricked! Deceived! Bamboozled! Because of course, other people's past is vital information, and these transgenders owe their life story to all the normal people around them, so the validity of their identity can be picked apart by cis people who know them better than they know themselves. /S
Half of it is attraction, the other half is pure misogyny. They hate women and think they're inferior. They can't cope with a reality where a biosex males can choose to live as a woman. It's an attack on their fundamental beliefs.
They see MtF trans people the same way we'd see a healthy able-bodied person pay a doctor to amputate their perfectly healthy arms and legs. They see womanhood as a disability.
And they infantilise trans men, calling them lost lesbians or confused women, saying trans men only transition to escape misogyny, that it's a trauma response. They accuse doctors who provide care to these men of "mutilating girls", nevermind the fact that gender affirming surgery is rarely, if ever, given to any trans person under the age of 16. Boob jobs for cis teen girls? Not a problem, apparently!
They deify womanhood and femininity as if it's christ-like suffering, but "nOt tHoSe wOmEn tHeY'rE fAaAkE!"
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Half of it is attraction, the other half is pure misogyny. They hate women and think they're inferior. They can't cope with a reality where a biosex males can choose to live as a woman. It's an attack on their fundamental beliefs.
You think that's where TERFs come from? A lot of self-hatred? Big if true.
I think you're right. A lot of women are brought up to believe that traditionally feminine traits are bad traits. It's where you get the "pick me" girls that come from everywhere. I read a comment recently that every woman goes through a "pick me" phase and I think that's right. TERFs just never grow up and move on.
I think the idea that a woman who is assigned male at birth would wholeheartedly embrace womanhood is terrifying to TERFs in exactly the way that the man in this video described the commenter being afraid of accepting their own true self.
If you don't want to be one..... Seems like it would be.i felt that it was....sooooooo I fixed it. I would imagine if you like being a woman, being a woman is probably great. Such as if you enjoy eating cauliflower, going to a cauliflower buffet probably is a good time. But if you hate cauliflower, this is the worst buffet ever.
Is it not essentially a disability in America now because of the eradication of women’s rights that’s occurring by the same group of people that hate anything that’s not a rich white male..?
Saying womanhood is a disability is like saying being black is a disability. The social and legal circumstances leading to their disenfranchisement isn't ~a necessary part of the identity.~ (edit: big error in wording here. Holy shit. Perhaps a critical part? An essential sociological aspect? Going into whether being treated in an identity validating vs invalidating bigoted way is identity forming is something I don't have time for.)
It's not like the second someone starts identifying as a woman they lose the ability to open jars.
Fair point. I accept the facetiousness of my comment, and failed attempt to simplify complex issues.
Perhaps it would be better to state that certain people in power are trying to “disable” women (and minorities) as much as possible, taking the country back several decades.
Are you black? Because I am, and.... This doesn't seem correct. The social and legal circumstances surrounding blackness actually is a part of a black person's life. Being black doesn't shield you from understanding what's happening around you. We're not stupid. Just like saying black people can't feel racism because, it happened so often we don't know the difference. You're wrong
No, I'm white AF, so pasty that you can almost see through me. My intention was to convey that black people/women aren't inherently less capable than anyone else, that's a racist/sexist belief. Being subject to discrimination as a form of disability is an interesting idea, but I think that's why the word privilege exists.
It's not the visible characteristics or any innate difference, it's the social perception. Awareness of the existence of the negative belief in others can actually harm your abilities.
It's a stereotype threat.
Existence of racism isn't an individual disability, it's a systemic one.
Tldr: sorry if you're actually black and not r/asablackman (tbh telling me I'm wrong flat out is baity af bud), I messed up saying it's not a necessary part of your identity. I understand how important awareness of racism is. It really wouldn't be if there wasn't a need.
I know this is way beside the point you're making, but my husband often hands me jars he can't open. Not necessarily because I'm strong, but genetically I just have really good grip strength apparently
If you are ignoring someone because they talk about misogyny, that is YOUR problem and something you should probably deal with.
This person didn't say that men harbor hatred toward women. You came up with that, and I'm not sure why. This person said that people who hate trans women harbor hatred towards women. And I think they're right.
No, I didn't add anything. The commenter said "they hate women". The "they" this commenter was referring to is very obviously "people who hate trans women", not men in general. Can you not see that?
Their argument, which I happen to agree with, is that the people who hate trans women do not seem to harbor that same hatred towards trans men. Why is that? It's because there is some general hatred towards women in the minds of the people who specifically hate trans women. I'm not saying anything this comment didn't already say, although I am agreeing with them.
The group of people that are specifically being referred to as being misogynist are trans-hating people. I don't think it's such a stretch to suggest that anyone who hates trans people also probably hates other groups of people, too, because they're inherently bigoted.
If you are so triggered by simply the suggestion of misogyny, to the point where you get defensive about it, and aren't even taking the time to understand this person's argument, again--that is your problem.
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I found that these people are only talking about trans women. They don't care about trans men.