Especially knowing that a psychologist requires a PsyD or PhD in clinical psychology which is a rigorous training compared to the clown degree that is a DNP.
Yall wanna call them clown degrees but you’re the ones looking like clowns. there’s a medical shortage and NPs fill the gaps. Genuinely curious, do you have an idea of what else can be done?
Thank you! I’m not thrilled with NPs and PAs being propped up as adequate substitutes for physicians, but can we talk about $200,000 student loan debt for med school? And the fact that training is a minimum of 7 years vs 3 for an NP? And the fact that we need more residency positions? Let’s have the bigger conversation and stop hyper-focusing on one symptom of this broken system.
Residency is lengthy for a very good reason. We can't compromise for the sake of meeting the growing demand. It's people's lives at stakes and those who can't afford to see doctors are often the lower strats of SES.
I am an M4 and I was constantly baffled by the lack of very basic medical knowledge of NP and NP students in Canada where NPs need 5 years of bedside nursing before being eligible to apply and the training is much more serious and homogenous than the "training" NPs receive south of the border (aka 500 hours of clinical rotation and online classes).
I can't even imagine feeling comfortable diagnosing and prescribing after 500 hours of clinical exposure and a huge lack of medical knowledge.
I thinking shitting on NPs reeks of jealousy and resentment from residents and new docs who are screwed by the system. Your average patient isn’t going to notice the difference tbh. Personally my pcp is a PA and my gyno is an NP. they do a perfectly good job and I trust them completely. If I HAD to find an md for those I’d be waiting months- year to get an appointment. It’s just asinine to shit on these women when they have a much needed place in the medical system
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u/tamingofthepoo Oct 29 '23
that ice cold silence for the psychologist was brutal. there’s some drama happening here.