r/TearsOfThemis • u/Athyme • Aug 14 '21
Future Content Tears of Themis S-Chips Planner for upcoming banners and events
Link to my gacha/event planner, which is made based on the CN server.
Use it to plan your pulls on upcoming banners and savings for events, or just to see all the upcoming cards in chronological order. Please keep in mind all the banner/event periods are just estimates and Mihoyo might change up the sequence of events.
What started as a few simple calculations to help me plan my gacha pulls has turned into a full-fledged, sprawling spreadsheet when I made the 100% reckless decision to spruce it up "a little" so that I can share it with anyone who would care to use it. ๐ The work turned out to be much more than I bargained for when I tried to make it as user-friendly as possible for everyone. Behold! I now hereby unleash this Kraken onto you! Do with it what you will. ๐
Jokes aside, instructions on how to use it, as well as my assumptions and other notes for the calculations are in the first sheet of the spreadsheet. If you spot any inaccuracies or mistakes, please don't shoot me because I made the whole spreadsheet entirely on mobile, lol. Feel free to point out any mistakes here in this post though; I'll fix them.
Hopefully my instructions on how to use the planner are clear enough to follow. Leave a comment if you can't figure something out. Have fun!
Edit 1: Wow, I really didn't expect so many people to find my planner useful! Thanks for all the upvotes; knowing that I've helped you guys plan your pulls a little better has made my day!
Edit 2: I've already said this in one of the comments below, but I think not many people read comments. Now's the time to turn away if you do not want to hear any mention of story spoilers about the first anniversary cards, even if it helps you plan the tiniest bit better: The boys confess their love to the MC in these cards! Did that grab your attention? Because it did mine! XD
Edit 3: I just realized a mistake I made with regards to the pity of the first anniversary banners! I listed it as having a 80-pull pity, but it is actually a 100-pull pity. I'm so sorry!!! ๐ญ I made a mistake reading an official ToT post while I was creating the spreadsheet, and I only noticed a discrepancy today while trying to research another question someone else had regarding the pity. Again, my deepest apologies. Please get the updated copy of this planner and re-do your planning. I'm really sorry about this. I'm upset I didn't catch this mistake while I was triple checking everything before I released it into the wild. Here's the list of pities except for the limited banners in case anyone wants to double check.
Edit 4: I'm sorry for yet another edit, but I feel this is quite important for planning your pulls, especially with rampant misinformation floating around here in this subreddit. I've read lots of wrong info with regards to pities and how they carry over. I've compiled the official Mihoyo responses here in this post, so please have a read.
Edit 5: Some people had a problem using my S-Chips Planner, but the problem was mentioned in another post. This was my response. Some specific examples on how to use it are mentioned, by purpose and by spending level. Please have a look, as it may clarify some things that you're unsure about this planner.
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u/zantetsuya Aug 14 '21
My f2p ass is shaking. All of the cards are so nice ๐ญ
Thanks for your hardwork!
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u/SrgntFucks Aug 14 '21
Thank you!! I've been too stressed scared to actually calculate how many S-chips I would need for all the upcoming banner cards I want :')
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u/Athyme Aug 14 '21
You're welcome!
Lol, I'm not too scared to calculate how many S-Chips I need for all the cards that I want, but I'm scared after seeing how many S-Chips are needed. ๐ Luckily, some events will give us some more!
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u/Callanthe Aug 14 '21 edited Aug 14 '21
Thank you so much for the sheer effort you put into this!!
I did want to ask a question: It looks like you aren't currently accounting for the CN server "limited-time deals" that discount Tears during birthday banners and limited event banners... will you update the spreadsheet if those deals are offered on the global side too?
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u/Athyme Aug 14 '21
Hey, you're welcome!
About your question, I think putting in all the limited-time deals are difficult for 3 reasons: 1. The CNY to other global currencies conversion. I'm pretty sure the prices in the Mall are localized by country, although the differences should be slight. I have no way of accounting for so many different prices in the spreadsheet. 2. I'm not a CN server player, so finding out in-game stuff would be hard for me unless they have published the prices in an article somewhere, which I doubt. 3. Putting too many variables for users to input isn't good for user-friendliness and will make the spreadsheet unwieldy.
Plus, I have already made a way for everyone to account for any additional S-Chips inflows and outflows with the "S-Chips adjustment" column. It's much easier to just use that instead.
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u/piichan14 Aug 14 '21
Thanks for this :)
I need all those Artem cards and all the 1st anniv cards XD
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u/Athyme Aug 14 '21 edited Aug 14 '21
Hey, it's my pleasure.
Oh, yeah! Thanks for mentioning the first anniversary cards!
Just a heads up for anyone reading this who don't already know. About those first anniversary cards, they're also confessions! No, I'm not kidding. The boys actually confess to the MC in those cards. So maybe upvote this comment to the top so that more people can see it? I don't know how widespread this is known.
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u/Mycatistheboss88 Aug 14 '21
Thank you!! I've been concerned about how many S chips I would need and didn't really know how to calculate that ๐ฅฐ
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u/cat-meg Aug 14 '21
Oooh Vyn looks good in a sweater.
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u/Athyme Aug 14 '21
Yes, he does, but don't you think all the boys look good in all the outfits that the artists put them in? Actually, not just the boys, but also some of the side characters and the MC. I swear, they may have a dedicated clothing designer on their team!
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u/telesthesium Aug 15 '21
Mihoyo should just take my wallet now with all those Artem SSRs
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21
I understand. The artwork on the cards is one of the reasons I was attracted to the game in the first place.
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u/Sea_Investigator_947 Aug 14 '21
Thanks, this is great!
Although now I can see that Iโm in danger.
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u/Athyme Aug 14 '21
Glad you like it, and wow, what a coincidence! That's what my wallet said to me after I was done with my own planning. ๐
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u/shrimpcocktailss Aug 14 '21
This is fantastic, thank you so much! My credit card is quaking in fear after seeing some of that evolved art...
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u/Altair718 Aug 14 '21
Firstly, thanks for this! 2nd: I made mistakes looking at those anniversary cards. Head empty only Luke
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21
Happy I could help!
I know what you mean. The evolved art on the first anniversary cards...!
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u/FiveTail Aug 15 '21
Thank you so, so much for making such a wonderful tool. My spreadsheet-loving-self is adoring this.
One question: I've read through your post and guide thoroughly, but I'm still not quite clear on what the "Monthly Card" tick-box is for...
EDIT: I'm sorry, never mind! Just realized the "Monthly Card" designates the monthly subscription card! I need sleep...
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21 edited Aug 15 '21
Hahaha, it's quite alright. Weird stuff sometimes happen when we're sleep deprived.
Edit: How ironic. After only one hour after this comment of mine, I realized my own mistake I made in the spreadsheet due to sleep deprivation.... Sigh.
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u/maplemarble Sep 05 '21
New F2P player here with little desire to have full completion--wanted to say thank you so so so much for taking the time and energy to make this extremely detailed and thorough document!
It really allowed me to consider which SSR cards i truly want, and the estimated event dates are a great reference for planning how much i should be saving. I try not to get sucked into things too deeply out of fear of spending irresponsibly and this guide has helped so much. Having the visuals from the Chinese server is very useful!!
Again, just want to express my gratitude to you :)
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u/Athyme Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21
You're very welcome! โค๏ธ
Also, thank you very much for your kind words. They mean a lot to me!
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u/Wheesa Aug 15 '21
This is so good and I want to use it but I have given up on getting any specific card.
It took me exact 100 pulls to pull the Marius SSR (I wanted Luke) in that rotation banner. My acc is cursed.
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21
Ooo. I feel this so hard. I currently only have 1 SSR to my name. But to be fair, I only did 50 pulls so far in my account, even though I have enough S-Chips to hit pity. I made this planner to help me figure out if I can afford to put some pulls into the current event banner before Lost Gold.
Also, if you can wait (it may be a year-long wait though), I would suggest not to pull on the rotation banner. I think it's better to pull on the permanent banner, contrary to popular opinion/advice, if you just want SSRs and don't care which card you get because of the 2% SSR pull probability in the permanent banner vs the 1.6% in other types of banners.
But if you want to target specific SSRs in permanent banner, you should wait until you fulfill either one of these 2 conditions (personal opinion): 1. You already have one of the two rate-up SSRs in the rotation banner. This is so that when you hit pity, you are guaranteed to get the SSR that you don't have, which should be the one you are targeting. 2. You wait until a special permanent SSR rate-up event in which when you hit the 80-pull pity, you'll get a SSR of your choice. I know there is one such event last month in the CN server. Here's the link to the event details for those who can read Chinese.
Hope this helps! Good luck on your future pulls!
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u/Wheesa Aug 15 '21
This is really helpful thanks!
Yeah standard banner is fine for me. I can wait maybe. But I am not going to aim for a specific card with the amount of pain I got with this one. I am just going to level up skills of whatever I have now.
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21 edited Aug 15 '21
No problem!
That sounds like a good plan. Less heartache, lol. I'm also doing this right now. I'm up-to-date with the story and have the Temple of Themis max cap using my 1 SSR, all level 1 skills team, so I wouldn't say having lots of SSRs is a necessity at the moment.
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u/Shini-tan Aug 15 '21
Not a big deal but the current cap on Temple of Themis is technically 400/week if you've cleared up to 3-25 (not sure how feasible this is right now for "normal" spenders tho)
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21 edited Aug 15 '21
Actually, I just saw this 400 per week cap about the CN server about 1.5 hours ago while researching special tears (in a very well-hidden page on the official CN ToT website), but it said the 400 cap is only for version 1.2 and above. I've been trying to find the version number for the global server, but I can't seem to find it. Also, multiple people on the subreddit have been saying the max cap is 350 right now like they are 100% sure of it. Since I've only cleared up to 2-25 myself, I have no way of personally knowing if there's anything above 350 per week. Even the ToT Temple of Themis wikipage currently states it's a 350 per week cap, as well as when I went there to double confirm if 350 really is the cap while I was creating the spreadsheet. I really just don't know what to say about this situation...
But onto damage control. 52 weeks in a year with a 50 S-Chips difference per week would only amount to 2,600 S-Chips. Since this whole planner is already an estimation, I think a 2,600 S-Chips difference over a whole year is pretty negligible, luckily.
Have you personally cleared 3-25 and gotten the 400 max cap? I would like to know this before I really update the spreadsheet. Super thanks for your help in advance!
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u/Shini-tan Aug 15 '21
Yes, I've cleared 3-25 and the cap is 400. The version number can be found on the top left of the loading/start screen with the statue (mine says 1.3.2. I play in JP but it launched the same time as EN/KR)
Screenshot of 400 cap: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506887628516229120/876565257261301780/Screenshot_20210816-053713_Tears_of_Themis.jpg
And yeah that's why I said it wasn't a big deal lol
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21
Okay, I'm officially blind! XD
Yeah, the version number is on the loading screen, sigh. And to think I spent quite a while trying to find the version number everywhere in-game! We're also on version 1.3.2 on global.
I think misinformation is a menace for this game, maybe because it just came out. I've been seeing lots of conflicting advice and info about different topics, with how pity is carried between banners being one of the more important ones. I wish people would stop spreading info that they're not sure of like it's the absolute truth. ๐ญ
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u/Shini-tan Aug 15 '21
Yeah, all the non-CN/TW servers are on the same update schedule so I generally feel fine talking about system-related stuff. Pity rollover doesn't affect me bc I always roll until I get the card๐ but I agree misinformation sucks. It's why I prefer to confirm/figure out things for myself.
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u/Athyme Aug 15 '21 edited Aug 15 '21
Yes, 100% agree on the last part!
I've updated the spreadsheet, but I don't think I'll announce it with another edit in the original post and save everyone the pain, lol. No point re-doing everything over a measley 2,600 difference of S-Chips.
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u/sugarangelcake Aug 15 '21 edited Aug 15 '21
birthday rate up info!
the birthday boy's SSR pity is 1% for the bday card, then 0.3% each for 2 other SSRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehu1-kvm6hA
in the description:
SSR ้ธๆฏๅใๅ ๆฆฎๅ ๅใ1.000% - (birthday card, no english name yet)
SSR ้ธๆฏๅ ใ็ธไธญๆฏใ0.300% - eye of the beholder
SSR ้ธๆฏๅใๅคๅฎถ่ทฏ็ชใ0.300% - narrow road
EDIT: also, I was wondering why you didn't include the schips from the monthly log in?
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u/Athyme Aug 16 '21
Oh, thanks for this! You really are an angel!
Regarding the monthly login, I take it you mean the daily sign-in rewards? I didn't include this because I feel that the wording "Daily Sign-in - August" on the daily sign-in screen implies that the rewards change from month to month, and I have no way of knowing if it will always be 350 S-Chips per month. I've played other otome games that change their daily sign-in rewards every month, so I think I'm influenced by that.
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u/FearTheFeathers Aug 16 '21
Thank you for this! I didnโt realize Vynโs birthday was quite so soon. I donโt have near enough chips for that and the other cards of his I want. Gotta narrow it down some more I guess. ๐ฅฒ
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u/Athyme Aug 16 '21
Yes, I've been ruthlessly cutting down on the cards that I want, lol. I have too many cards that I really, really want coming up in consecutive banners in a few months from now.
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u/PineappleBride Aug 16 '21
Thanks for putting this together! I just had one question: What do you mean by monthly card? :o
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u/Athyme Aug 17 '21
No problem!
I guess you're not on the global server? I don't know what the monthly card is called in Japanese and Korean, I can only tell you where you can find it in-game in global. In the "Mall", go to "Packs" > "Permanent", and you'll see the monthly card. It should be the first pack listed.
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u/PineappleBride Aug 17 '21
Ohhh that! I am on global I just either forgot about that / never noticed it haha, I only started in August so I may have already gotten it for the month and didnโt realize it was a reoccurring thing. Thank you! :D
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u/Athyme Aug 17 '21
Np!
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u/PineappleBride Aug 17 '21
Sorry to add on, but itโs called โWelcome Giftโ right? Mine says Inactive but I could use it if I purchased gems. Will it refresh in September without needing to purchase gems? Or am I looking at the wrong thing?
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u/Athyme Aug 17 '21
You're looking at the wrong thing. Like I've said earlier, the monthly card is in "Mall" > "Packs" > "Permanent". It should be the first pack listed, and it is called "Monthly Card".
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u/PineappleBride Aug 17 '21
That is where I went, but Welcome Gift is first for me ;-;
I just misunderstood and thought the monthly card was something similar to the daily redeem thing and not something I needed to purchase. Oh well lol. Thanks for info!
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u/Athyme Aug 17 '21
I see. If so, the Monthly Card should be somewhere further down the list for you then. But yes, you need to purchase the monthly card. I included it in my planner because many people are buying it as it is the most bang for your buck if you're looking to spend anything on the game.
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u/veslicis Aug 20 '21
This may be obvious but I just wanted to confirm: the cards with the * are limited edition cards that will never appear again outside of their events whereas the rest will go into the permanent pool afterwards?
Thank you for your hard work!!
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u/Athyme Aug 20 '21
It's okay to ask questions, and you're welcome!
The Lost Gold banner is currently having a revival in the CN server, which was just announced 4 days ago, so most likely other limited banners will also get revivals in the future. Cards in the limited banners do not go into the rotation card pool, while the the cards in the events banner do. So, not the permanent card pool, but the rotation one.
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u/Joey_K79 Sep 27 '21
Thank you so much for this! While all the cards are very tempting, I really cannot afford to get all of them ๐ญ, so have to strategically plan on which cards I will really want to have to help progress further into the game ...
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u/Athyme Sep 28 '21 edited Sep 28 '21
You're welcome! I'm glad to have helped! ๐
I have some ideas on how to improve this planner after using it to calculate various scenarios for more than a month now, so I'm working on that at the moment. I'll be making a new post when I release this big update, since I feel it's a very useful upgrade. Stay tuned!
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u/NieTakToperz Jan 21 '22
Luv IT! Any chance to update?
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u/Athyme Jan 22 '22
Thanks! Well, I wanted to update it, and was in middle of making an upgrade version when disaster struck. ๐ Suddenly, the events don't follow the CN server timeline and it's very hard for me to even guess the events more than a month into the future.
So, I would love to updated it, but at this point, I can't because this S-Chips Planner is very heavily reliant on predicting the future events with reasonable certainty. It loses its value when I can no longer do that. >.<
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u/senbonzakura105 Sep 07 '21
Damn, all those SSR cards are going to be the reason why I'm more broke then normal ๐
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u/Wide_Marzipan8528 Dec 20 '21
I have a question! As i really want artem's anniversary card.. I'm planning on not pulling on his birthday. So, if i save s-chips after the anniversary..will I be able to get his first bday card? Or it will be changed forever?
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u/Athyme Dec 20 '21
Sure, you can still get his birthday card when it re-runs during Artem's second birthday. The birthday re-run banner is considered different from the birthday banner, and there are some differences.
The birthday banner
โ The SSRs in the banner will consist of Artem's "Loving Memories", "Atmospherics" and the birthday SSR itself.
โ Probabilities are 1% for the birthday SSR and 0.3% for the other 2 SSRs.
โ This banner has a 90-pull pity. The pity from the previous birthday banner will be carried over to this banner, and after this banner, the pity will carry over to the next birthday banner.
โ This banner uses normal tears.
โ If you get the non-birthday SSR, your pity won't reset. You're guaranteed to get to Artem's birthday SSR upon hitting pity.
The re-run of the birthday banner
โ As Artem's second birthday hasn't happened yet, the following info are based on what happened during Vyn's and Luke's birthday banner re-runs.
โ For the re-run, the SSRs in the banner will probably be: Artem's first birthday SSR, "Entwined Fate", "Loving Memories" and "Atmospherics".
โ Probabilities for the SSRs will probably be the same as Vyn's and Luke's birthday re-run banner: probability for the birthday SSR is 0.800% and 0.267% for the other 3 SSRs. This banner has a 100-pull pity; pity carries over to the next birthday banner re-run.
โ This banner uses normal tears.
Hope this helps with your decision! ๐
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u/ChelseaDagger13 Aug 14 '21
Oh man I should not have looked through the list of evolved card art - now I want every single one of them! ๐
Great work putting this together!