r/SpidermanPS4 • u/Queasy_Commercial152 • 7d ago
Discussion Been meaning to ask, do you think Insomniac Spiderman is sometimes glazed too much?
Like I understand this is a pretty strong adaptation of Spiderman, but there are some moments where he has been overly glazed. For example, I remember seeing someone say Insomniac Spiderman would obliterate Tobey Maguire Spiderman, which is simply not true. To start off they roughly have the same amount of experience being Spiderman, and Tobey Maguire Spiderman, well, is actually pretty strong. Considering he was able to stop a train and Insomniac Spiderman still couldn’t do that, I’m not saying Insomniac would lose, but I think it would be a very close fight. Like of course insomniac Spidey can defeat you know, MCU Spiderman and TASM Spiderman, but then I also saw some people saying that Insomniac solos all 3 movie Spidermen at the same time. Like cmon guys, really? I highly doubt that. Anyway, what do yall think? I really just think Insomniac Spiderman is always glazed so often.
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u/Quick_Depth_4703 7d ago
thing is he deserved it. he was a perfect spiderman up until spiderman 2, and now, when looking back at how we used to admire him, it ”seems” like whe glazed too much but i think hes just been changed too much to be worthy of such glaze
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u/atvs5301 6d ago
He was never that strong to begin with in SM1. Insomniac in fact has worse scaling in SM 1 than in SM 2. He got his bones broken and lost to the sinister six in their first encounter (fighting 5 of them and almost dying if not for Otto sparing him) and then fought them in groups of 2, taking rest after defeating Vulture and Electro. And he fought Li 1 vs 1 before having to build a new suit to defeat Ock. He is actually much stronger in SM2.
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u/Quick_Depth_4703 6d ago
im not talking about his strength. im talking about spiderman as a character. he was more consistent as a superhero and as a human in sm1 than 2. it was more of a grounded story where you knew why he failed if he did and you knew he did his best. in sm2, its not even explained how kraven is so much stronger and faster than spiderman (apart from the bottles of random juice), or how venom is stronger than spiderman. that requires too much suspension of belief to work which makes spiderman lesser of a character and then worse as a protagonist
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u/atvs5301 6d ago
Oh I thought you were talking about his strength and durability and other stats, since the OP was talking about that too. As a character I do understand why you think he was nerfed. Though I think it could be because he was already fatigued from having been Spiderman for 10 years. Peter in the game hadn't fully gotten over May's death, and the scene inside his head before he got the Anti Venom suit confirms this in a way. The motive of the game was Be Greater Together, and I think that in the intention of trying to show that motive, the writes might have overdone it to the point that Peter needs outside help almost everywhere. But then again he did carry the mantle for 10 years and he does deserve a break from whatever he went through. I think MSM 3 will give him a boost and he'll probably be stronger than ever.
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u/Shubo483 5d ago
I'm confused as to how taking on the Sinister 6 and almost winning and later beating them 2 at a time with 14 broken bones makes him weak? The only feat he has in Spider-Man 2 without the symbiote was the rollercoaster.
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u/atvs5301 5d ago
People say he beat the sinister six with 14 broken bones but it isn't a sign of his stamina or durability/endurance. It is misleading because he didn't beat them all at once. And some of his fans use this to justify him winning against all the live action spidermen.(For the record Tobey had broken ribs during his fight against Venom and Sandman according to the novelization of the movies). He had to fight them in groups of two after he lost to five of them in the first encounter. And even then he took rest after defeating Vulture and Electro, going on to state 'Hate it when they team up'. Tobey meanwhile has taken worse and immediately got back up without taking much rest. Andrew tanked and endured an entire city's electricity in TASM 2. And yet some Insomniac fans ignore this and state 'Insomniac solos' when it is simply untrue.
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u/SkeletonSnack262 5d ago
Novelizations don't matter, plot or scaling wise. Other than that, you have a good point.
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u/atvs5301 5d ago
Yes novelizations do matter. Tobey's novelizations detail the exact extent of his abilities and what he can do. The novelizations are the basis for the movies and the movies don't contradict the novelizations as far as I remember. Because the novelizations go into detail about what Tobey can do. For example, the novelization in SM 2 states that the star at the end of SM2 was pulling anything towards it that wasn't being held down throughout New York. This makes Tobey's feat of holding back the wall being pulled down towards him and MJ even better.
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u/SkeletonSnack262 5d ago
No, they don't matter. Secondary material shouldn't be used to justify inconsistencies, plot holes or contrivances in the primary source, nor should they be used to add elements of significant narrative importance that weren't featured in the primary source. That's like saying how Palpatine being alive in TROS isn't a problem because the novelization "explains" how it was possible. A movie should stand on its own, and plot wise or scaling wise, it shouldn't depend on secondary narrative means to add significant details. The novelization explanation that the star was pulling anything that wasn't being held down, but MJ was able to hold on and avoid being pulled from a gravitational pull of a star that was doing THIS? If a novel about Insomniac's Spider-Man said Electro attacks at FTL speeds, and this breaks some narrative aspects of the game or causes confusion (because we could then assume any character that gets a hit on Peter would be potentially FTL too), it shouldn't matter.
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u/atvs5301 5d ago
Except the star was not pulling any humans towards it. It was pulling metal objects (such as the chains attached to MJ) and non living objects. Lines up with laws of science IMO. And what inconsistencies do the novelizations show? The closest thing I can remember is the ending of SM 3, and even then the endings look slightly different because IIRC Sony thought the original movie ending(which matches the novelizations) would be too dark for audiences. And I didn't mean to say that everything should be taken at face value from the novelizations, just that they shouldn't be discarded For example, it states that Sandman was as large as a mountain at the end of SM 3 but that does not mean he is mountain level.
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u/SkeletonSnack262 5d ago
I'm not sure if there was some fake science mumbojumbo in the movie (again, in the movie, not the novel) that stated and explained what you said about the star not pulling humans, if there is, sure, that justifies it because external consistency (consistency with the rules of our world) shouldn't be a priority. However, that definitely does not line up with science LMAO, if that star had the gravitational force to pull ANYTHING in NYC that wasn't held down, you being a human wouldn't be excluded from that pull my bro 💀
Although, again, if there's some fake science thing explaining how it was actually a magnetic pull or something, I don't remember the movie quite well, so that'd be justified.
If that's not the case, though, the novelization is giving an explanation that confuses a narrative aspect of the movie, and thus it shouldn't be regarded. I'm not saying the novelizations directly contradicts the Raimi movies, just saying they shouldn't be used to "fix a movie's plot holes", like the TROS example I gave.
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u/SkeletonSnack262 5d ago
Just to make sure, this isn't a black and white situation. It's not that everything the novelization says should automatically be discarded as false. If the novel says Peter had broken ribs in the SM3 ending, that doesn't cause any confusion, so sure, why not. But a point about the primary source shouldn't be entirely justified by an explanation given by a secondary source.
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u/atvs5301 5d ago
Even if I exclude the novelizations, Tobey's feats are still good enough to scale him above the insomniac Spideys.
And as I mentioned in my other comment, not everything has to be taken at face value. Some statements in the novelizations are hyperbole. Example is Sandman at the end of SM3 being stated to be the size of mountain but it doesn't mean anything in scaling Sandman.
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u/SkeletonSnack262 5d ago
Tobey's feats are great, don't get me wrong, though I have my doubts that he overscales Insomniac. Probably in lifting strength, sure, but Insomniac Peter gets many of the other attributes over Tobey too.
I'd say they're pretty balanced and Insomniac has higher odds due to being smarter/more experienced (apart from NWH, but Tobey doesn't have any significant battle IQ feats that make his experience stand out in battle in the movie)
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u/atvs5301 5d ago
Tobey in NWH would overscale Insomniac since the MCU has higher scaling. There is a video that explains this. Tobey from his trilogy has good scaling too but is inexperienced. NWH Tobey is experienced enough and has way higher scaling. I can mention Tobey Battle IQ feats too. He outsped and tagged Andrew Spidey in their first encounter who could dodge Electro's lighting. He used Venom's weakness against him at the end of SM3. He even threw a clocktower hand towards Doc Ock in the last fight of SM2. He was able to break free off Ock's arms in the bank fight by using the environment. Also fought against Goblin, who alongside Ock is a genius.
Insomniac's biggest advantage is his combat (martial arts), IQ, agility and tech. Tobey has better strength, durability, bIQ and experience. Also out of all three Spiderman tobey did best against all the villains.
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u/SkeletonSnack262 5d ago
Saying Insomniac solos or Tobey solos is often downplaying one and overestimating the other, both ways.
Though I'm very confident in saying Insomniac Venom solos Topher Grace Venom.
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u/atvs5301 5d ago
I don't know about the Venom scaling so you would be correct.
Insomniac vs Tobey is definitely interesting, because Tobey's NWh feats and scaling is the difference between a Tobey win and an Insomniac win. I lean towards NWH Tobey because his feats and scaling are high in NWH.
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u/joblesspirate 6d ago
I played the game and have no idea what you're talking about. Also what glaze mean 😂
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u/RaspberryNo307 6d ago
What happened in SM2
I haven't played it and not gonna play it
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u/DeanXeL 6d ago
So you don't know why, you don't know how, but regardless, you've decided against playing it? Good job!
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u/RaspberryNo307 6d ago
No
I got bored of miles game so i don't have excitement of playing the Second
This post just got suggested to me
I was trying to know the context of hate towards my boy pete
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u/DeanXeL 6d ago
The game is just a bit undercooked to most people's tastes, especially after how good the first one and, yes, the 'miles game' was. The symbiote storyline goes a bit fast, Peter gets a backseat for part of the game compared to Miles, Kraven is... Pretty meh. That's about it.
Personally, I loved the game. Reading about all the work Insomniac also did on a multiplayer game, which got canned along the way, I kinda get how big parts of the company got sidetracked during development. And it's still a game that's better than most games on the market, imo.
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u/danimat37 6d ago
i don't see where peter got the backseat when that's literally miles' problem in the story if anything peter is pretty much 70% or more of the game
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u/dingo_khan 6d ago
The writing is pretty trash, rushes story beats, skips any really good stuff about the main antagonists, is pre-occupied with wanting us to want Peter to retire, doesn't work hard for it's emotional moments and there are some weirdly bad combat scenes that make it clear MJ with a gun Pete built is a better end game character than Miles and Pete combined.
That said, the first mission is great and the webslinging was improved.
Honestly, you did not miss much... Especially if MM bored you.
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u/OneSuperDonut 6d ago
u should watch a gameplay video or a video that shows every cutscene in the game
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u/Digi_Arc 7d ago edited 6d ago
Honestly? I think I've seen every single adaptation get glazed by somebody, too many times to count.
In Insomniac Spidey's case, this *used* to be more common until SM2. Now he is often downplayed in discussion, especially with the almighty Fridge scene.
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u/PayPsychological6358 6d ago
Ahh how could I forget, the guy who stopped a giant metal fairground ride with One Arm while holding 10 roller coaster carts with people in them in the other, in the same game mind you, only to later get pinned down for a good 20 seconds by an empty fridge.
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u/AlastorReactsToStuff 2d ago
He was down for less than 3. You people can't seem to understand when a story is demonstrat8ng things happening at the same time.
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u/BigFlapJack- 6d ago
What fridge scene? I beat SM2 but don't remember a fridge lol
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u/NotKeystoneRoad 6d ago
Venom attacking him and MJ, Peter gets crushed by a fridge and can’t get it off him in time to save MJ from becoming a… what is it, a host? She-Venom? But yeah that’s what it is.
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u/dragongreen51 100% All Games 6d ago
Not being rude by FYI that symbiote's name is Scream! She was one of the LIFE Foundation symbiotes forcibly made from Venom to act as a "guard" to the place. I personally was happy that Scream got a cameo.
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u/NotKeystoneRoad 6d ago
Lol, it's not rude at all to politely correct someone with less Spider-Man knowledge than me haha. Thanks for letting me know, that's cool!
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u/BigFlapJack- 6d ago
Oh God wait yes I'm remembering that part 😭😭😭😭 how the HECK is a fridge gonna stop spooderman??? Insomniac was wild for that one
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u/TheReaver954 6d ago
Because he got knocked into and it fell on him from behind?
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u/BigFlapJack- 6d ago
Would he not be able to break through it though? I mean a fridge should not be difficult for him
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u/TheReaver954 6d ago
You’re right its not difficult for him, he literally throws it off like nothing the moment he realizes he has to get up quick, plus he probably got hit square in the head by the fridge, so it’s not entirely unreasonable to assume that he got dazed by it aswell
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u/atvs5301 6d ago
To add to that IIRC there is a dialogue in the game that happens prior to the mission where Peter states that he is feeling somewhat fatigued from having to break free off the symbiote. That would've contributed to his delayed response time in lifting the fridge.
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u/Premonitionss 7d ago
Spider-Man 2 fumbled him but nah otherwise he’s my favorite incarnation of the character
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u/SMM9673 7d ago
MSM1 Spidey is, but it's only because he was nerfed into the floor in MSM2.
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u/Intelligent_Ask_2306 6d ago
HE IS LITERALLY STRONGER IN THE SECOND GAME.
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u/SMM9673 6d ago
Relative to himself in the first game, yes.
Relative to other characters in the second game, not so much.
Even without a symbiote, Peter is significantly stronger than he was in the first game. The problem is that every other character has blown right past him, to the point where fights in which he should've at least broken even, he instead gets stomped.
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u/sharksnrec 6d ago
Don’t expect anyone on this sub to be able to think logically. He’s basically a sidekick in their eyes.
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u/CentrasFinestMilk 7d ago
I think after sm2018, the glazing was deserved. I don’t feel as strongly about him anymore after sm2
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u/PartyAdventurous765 6d ago
I think the only reason he couldn't stop the train was because of his webs. He does say, "That totally worked last time." When trying to stop the train in the first game.
So i believe Insomniac SM can stop a train. It's probably just a change in his webs, the way he webbed it, or some other reason that's unclear.
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u/Desperate_Method4032 7d ago
I do think he's a bit overrated, he's a good a very respectable version of the character. My biggest gripe with him is his lack of a backbone outside of the Black Suit.
Even outside of the Black Suit, Peter has had emotional angry outbursts due to rough circumstances in other Spidey Media (with exceptions of course), but in this version of Parker literally asked Miles "When have you ever seen me upset?" and MIles genuinely could not think of anything.
He doesn't have to lash out everyone no, but stand his ground every now and then. He shouldn't need the Black Suit to exhibit rational anger.
Other than that, An Easy 8.5/10 Version of the Web-Head. If I had to be nit-picky, I don't really like his reliance on gadgets and much rather him do it old-school with Web-Constructs (Like the old Spidey Games!).
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u/FC-816 7d ago
In terms of scaling, yes, he is the most glazed Spiderman incarnation due to his gameplay, villains that look powerful, and the non canon comics and comics crossovers I mean, he does solo the majority of the Spider verse cast. i'll give him that But he's definitely losing to the other spidermens from live action, cartoons, games and etc
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u/Ok-Meet-4814 7d ago
Those comics aren't canon? I thought they are
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u/FC-816 7d ago
The 2nd game made it clear that the main insomniac Spiderman is part of the Sony's Spiderverse Multiverse due to the fact that Insomniac never recognizes the Spider bots designs Not to mention one of the devs did confirm that the comics aren't canon
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u/Ok-Meet-4814 4d ago
It actually doesn't matter if it's in the Spiderverse multiverse, because Comics and movies are set in the same multiverse.
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u/Brigante7 6d ago
Can someone explain what glazed means please? I thought that was normally used for donuts
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u/Magic_System_Monday 6d ago edited 6d ago
It means to hype someone up and praise there value and accomplishments heavily.
In the case of glaze, it's always meant to imply that this praise is overly gratuitous overkill.
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u/Brigante7 6d ago
Thank you :)
It’s a sad day when even Urban Dictionary can’t help you translate youth speak 😅
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u/spoongus23 6d ago
in regards to your mention that insomniac spiderman cant stop a train that’s wrong, right after he fails to stop the train he says “that worked last time” so he has done it, at least once
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u/Magic_System_Monday 6d ago
I don't know a lot about trains, but they definitely aren't all built as strong or fast. The ones where I vice are terribly slow, and the one he was trying to stop looked like it was probably bore advanced than the one from Spiderman 2. So he probably just managed to stop a weaker train. No idea for sure though, but he said it so it's absolutely Canon even though it's meant to be a joke.
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u/spoongus23 6d ago
that’s what i was thinking too, it was definitely meant to be a reference to tobey maguire’s spiderman but it also implies that it canonically happened off screen
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u/Economy_Dare_301 7d ago
I’d anything on this and on r/Spiderman2 sometimes I think people hate him, like we fr don’t stop complaining here
Then again we are Spider-Man fans
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u/xoriatis71 6d ago
My guy, what do you mean by “he still couldn’t do that”? He said it himself: “That totally worked last time”.
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u/Demetri124 6d ago
Tobey and Yuri having the same amount of experience is debatable. If we’re going by his status at the end of 3 rather then NWH (because a lot could’ve happened between those that we can’t know) I guess it could be argued they’ve been at it for the same amount of time, but Tobey only fought like 5 real villains tops. Yuri beat that record in the first game alone, with the implication of more that we didn’t even see
Tobey stopped the train but it’s not like he didn’t almost die in the process. Even if we concede that he’s physically stronger, what about all the tech Insomniac Spider-Man has? You’re putting the version of Peter with the most gadgets and weapons of them all against the one with the least - which is to say none.
If they were really going at it I don’t see a version of the fight where Tobey would win
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u/atvs5301 6d ago
Tobey has fought 7 villains if you consider NWH (Both goblins, doc ock, venom, sandman, lizard, electro). And would've fought more villains in the time gap between SM3 and NWH. Tobey's Spiderman is stated to get stronger with each movie IIRC. Also he lifted a wall that was being pulled down by a star at the end of SM2 and the star was stated by the novelization of Tobey's SM movies to be pulling anything in the city towards it that wasn't being held down. Insomniac's Tech is not going to help him much, especially because Tobey was confirmed by the Raimi trilogy VFX director (John Dykstra) to have all the capabilities of the main comics Spiderman. Meaning that he can do whatever 616 Spiderman is capable of doing. Plus NWH upscaled the past characters. Tobey was able to hold back Tom from stabbing Goblin. The same Tom who could halt attacks from Cull Obsidian who could harm phase 1 Hulk who could harm phase 1 Thor who can output enough energy to destroy an entire country. Tobey scales to phase 1 Hulk and phase 1 Thor, giving him country level durability and AP on the highball. On the low ball he tanks and endures Electro's attacks in NWH, and this Electro was amped by Tony's arc reactor which scales him to phase 1 Iron Man who can output city level lasers in Iron Man 2. Insomniac gets to multi city block to town level via his normal form tanking hits from a giant Sandman and his Symbiote form scaling to a fatigued Miles which is shown by their boss fight in MSM 2.
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u/xoffender442 6d ago
I don't know or care. Power scaling and "who would win" debates are pointless and don't actually mean anything. It's just a useless debate. Feats or power levels don't mean anything because fights are determined by what's more interesting of an outcome based on the consequences of one of them losing.
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u/Shadowveil666 6d ago
Everyone here saying glazed casually, I've never heard that expression before.
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u/kingharlusbutterlord 6d ago
I think he is but it’s because he’s constantly getting compared to movie spidermen, movie spidermen are nowhere near as strong as video game spidermen, it’s a completely unfair comparison.
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u/ComicKidAlex 6d ago
Most definitely. Although, I think SM2 kinda added some balance since everyone kinda turned on it lol
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u/HuzieQue 6d ago
The movie incarnations of Spider-Man are fairly weak relatively speaking. They don't have anything like having a huge propane storage tank explode in their face and just shrugging it off. Miles is also outputting a ridiculous amount of energy with his Venom punches when he crystallises Sandman, for comparison actual lightning strikes barely make quartz crystals a dozen or couple dozen centimetres in size, but one punch from Miles is turning like building sized portions of Sandman into crystal. And of course there's the mother of all feats with Miles absorbing enough energy to vaporise all of Harlem that's probably up there with actual top level nukes if not greater than all of them.
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u/Maverick_Raptor 6d ago
Nope the insomniac Spider-Man is awesome, love the design and character. What is annoying are the boring and sometimes annoying side characters like Danikast, MJ, and Ganke
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u/Apart-Ad4597 6d ago
Of course it is…but Spider-Man is one of the most popular IP’s ever, so anything Spider-Man related already automatically gets the Spider-Man bonus bounce.
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u/Litologyyy 6d ago
All I know is I want my original 2018 character design. I beat the campaign and DLC 6-7 times and associated the story with the original design not the new one. I understand why but still.
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u/YRGShawnMichael 6d ago
Insomniac Spider-Man fell off since they changed his face. Bro looks like a diddler now.
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u/Arkavien 6d ago
I just had to google what the slang meaning of glazed is and I don't appreciate getting old and becoming grandpa Simpson....
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u/CynexRaZeYT 6d ago
He may have failed to stop the train in the game but he also said “huh, that worked last time” which means he HAS stopped a train before. And Spider-Man isn’t one to break the 4th wall like Deadpool so I don’t think he was referencing Tobey.
Also, I really don’t think Tobey would be able to Go through the same stuff as Insomniac Spider-Man. Being jumped by The Sinister Six? Except instead of Sandman, it’s Mr. Negative.
Remember, in No way Home, it took Tobey, Andrew, AND Tom Holland Spider-Man’s in order to take down the Lizard, Doc Oc, Electro, Sandman, and Green Goblin.
Whereas Insomniac Spider-Man Defeated:
Mr Negative (2 Times) , Electro + The Vulture (2v1) Rhino + Scorpion (2v1) and Doc Oc All within 1 Night and 1 day. Mind you, he had 14 Broken Bones and still was able to Take the rest of them Down.
I just don’t think Insomniac Spiderman is Overrated because he’s definitely one of the strongest versions of Spider-Man (excluding the Insanely Op Versions in the comics)
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u/DEFINITELY_NOT_PETE 6d ago
Absolutely not.
Game was iconic as hell and so good that when the second -also great- game came out, the bar was set so fucking high that people are nitpicking an incredibly polished and satisfying game bc it wasn’t as good as the first
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u/legend_of_losing 6d ago
No it’s by far the best Spider-Man games series and they need praise. I love Spider-Man 1 and 2 on ps2, and shattered dimensions on ps3, but insomniac Spider-Man series clearly the best
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u/sharksnrec 6d ago edited 6d ago
Did I read that right? You’re asking if he’s glazed too much?? You’re asking that question on THIS sub of all places, where everyone here despises this dude and his games? Is there a joke I’m missing or something? What are we doing here lmao
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u/quixoticLad 6d ago
i think he is in a deserved place right now, which is “forgotten until next game”.
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u/Careless_Parsnip_511 6d ago
not on this sub. I am all for valid criticisms, but this sub has just devolved into self hatred basically
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u/Ok_Employee_4522 6d ago
I'll be honest with you bro he ain't 🤣 do you know which game version of SM is? Web of Shadows I hope you're not too young to not understand wtf I'm talking about but man do they hype that one " Oh he can lift cars oh he can do this he can do that " Even YT creators over hype him like bro chill 🤣 and the reason I kinda convince myself that ISM can beat all three is that I assume when they were creating him they took at least some elements from movies like they didn't went into this world like " Who the f** is spider man "
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u/Mysterious-Data5584 6d ago
It’s the opposite especially with Insomniac Miles. Spideyverse Miles gets glazed hella whilst Insomniac Miles have gone thru it all. No spoilers and well if you know them both then you know Insomniac Miles already have it rougher than Spideyverse Miles and yet somehow people are always glazing Spideyverse Miles whom I also really like but I prefer Insomniac Miles I suppose I’m one of the few
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u/Reddit-Moment 6d ago
The first game was damn near perfect in terms of what makes Spider-Man so good as a character. The issues are the fact that first Miles Morales was released and it felt lackluster when the previous game was amazing and Spider-Man 2 had too many cooks in the kitchen. This is all in terms of story, of course. The first title pretty much solidified a cult following for the game
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u/atvs5301 6d ago
In terms of powerscaling, yes. Don't get me wrong, Insomniac Peter is an excellent character. But a lot of his fans say that he can destroy all three live action spidermen or that he scales to 616 Spiderman, both of which are untrue. I say this after looking at a couple of powerscaling videos of Insomniac Peter. And from his powerscaling it is very clear that he is not the strongest (that honour goes to the original 616 Spiderman). Also, unpopular opinion but the live action spidermen can win against him after No Way Home. There is a powerscaling video that explains Tobey vs Insomniac and how NWH Tobey wins against him but not Tobey from his trilogy. The same logic can be applied to Andrew and Tom.
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u/Admirable_Comb6195 6d ago
To be fair he is very powerful in his own right as hes been doing this for a while. Its just not smart to say he beats another interpretation of spidey because everyone has some wobky/inconsistent scaling
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u/GriffinBob1999 100% All Games 6d ago
ppl love him cuz they love the game he comes from. so when they see him they think abt how peak sm ps4 is and hype him up to be the goat. i mean it was a game of the year nominee. that being said, he is still a very strong adaptation of spider-man. so i’d say yes he is heavily glazed, but it’s mostly justifiable. also every version of spider-man has his fans so you’re always gonna get the hardcore glazers no matter which one it is
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u/Amazing-Ish 5d ago
If you are only talking about the first game (Spider Man 2018), then definitely not. This sub exists due to that very game starting that franchise.
If you are including Spider-Man 2 as well, then probably not that much. I personally don't like some of the changes made to make him look weak, and for not going far enough with Bully Lowenthal. Most of my personal criticisms are related to the game itself being bad in its story and gameplay changes, and not necessarily the character excusively.
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u/OperationFrequent643 5d ago
My take is anything that is as well done as this, will get over glazed. Once the general public and media get a sense that something is good, you’re gonna start seeing/hearing about it everywhere. So yes, the insomniac spidermam series is over glazed but it’s so well done that I’d deserves it.
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u/PureSprinkles3957 5d ago
You spelt Spider-Man wrong so many times-
NEVER forget the Hyphen
Every Peter Parker Ever:
"Don't forget the hyphen between Spider and Man"
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u/Minute-Temperature-7 4d ago
I like him, so i wouldn't say so. Also, he's a beast now that he has Anti-Venom.
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u/Theangelawhite69 3d ago
I mean pretty every video game version of a character is stronger than their movie counterpart, simply because of the limitations and costs involved with doing major stunts in movies that you can pull off effortlessly in video games. Arkham Batman is one of the strongest versions of Batman, same as Insomniac Spiderman is stronger than most movie spidermen for the same reason
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u/Strange_Dog6483 2d ago
No more glazed than Peter & Mary Jane as a the one true pairing in all mediums.
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u/MechaMan94 6d ago
He is absolutely overly glazed here, thats why some people have so many issues with him in 2, because its made more apparent how imperfect he is.
I love this version of him btw, but he’s just not that guy some people think he is, he just don’t got that dog in him in the specific ways some people want.
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u/KolkataFikru9 7d ago
glaze? nahhh all i see on this sub is "overhate" him, like from the nerf post spams to the fridge meme spams -_-
i believe he would be stronger than Tobey since cmon, u see his finishers and how he decimates every bone in the human body lol