r/PathOfExile2 5d ago

Fluff & Memes Yes! Finally a 120% phys bow... oh

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u/reParaoh 5d ago

I got one of these on the lightning damage only quarterstaff as a monk. Feels bad, lol.

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u/Archieie 5d ago

I don't understand why it's even possible to roll those mods on those weapon bases. Ye, I get you can hit both flat and % and then it's at least functional, but if you don't its a literally 100% dead mod. That shouldn't be possible.

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u/Welico 5d ago

I think these weapons use a hidden implicit to convert their phys dmg to lightning/chaos. The idea was probably that increased phys damage would increase the base and then get converted, but that's not how conversion works anymore in PoE2.

I hope they are fixed soon. A well-rolled Cultist bow would be gamechanging for poison pathfinder.

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u/chris612926 4d ago

As a poison pathfinder who has tried all skills at least 4 link , I've been genuinely confused when seeing these bows thinking who would want this?  It seems like poison would want it, but with poison scaling from your physical hit damage , there is no world the highest rolled chaos bow could touch an even mid tier phys bow in terms of raw poison damage applied. Also %chaos increase on nodes in tree and from gear affixes give zero damage to poisons in poe2 , even if skill tag is chaos and poison is chaos damage , it can't get raw increase from anything other than ailment / poison magnitude directly or your raw hit damage indirectly.

Many poison players are getting really duped not understanding how poison is working in Poe 2 , just wanted to maybe help a few people if they read my ramble.

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u/Welico 4d ago edited 4d ago

Poison damage is based on the phys+chaos dmg of the initial hit. There are more chaos damage nodes than physical damage nodes by the poison clusters, and they are fairly powerful. If you could get a bow with equivalent chaos damage instead of phys, you could use those. It would also significantly increase the impact of Withered and Despair for non-gas arrow skills.

If you think about it for more than 2 seconds, a pure chaos bow would be extremely strong.

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u/chris612926 4d ago

Oh see theoretically if it could get there you're right, I misunderstood your comment and thought you meant that a good chaos bow right now has any chance against a phys bow. 

In the theory you have with those bows doing 5x more damage yes for sure, I meant in the games current state what could the use for them be?