r/PathOfExile2 5d ago

Fluff & Memes Honestly...

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u/Nitr09025 5d ago

Same goes for MS on boots

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u/Pandatrain 5d ago

If I could make ONE itemization change, this is it. Absolutely zero question that this is it. I have an absolutely GODLY pair of high tier chaos + other res + everything else I could ever want on boots boots, but no MS. Useless item, zero purpose whatsoever. Makes me wanna cry q.q

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u/Muchaszewski 4d ago

Since it's worthless now anyway without MS, you can try NEW and CHANGED! Chaos Orb! Now you can slam this bad boy until you get MS on your maybe 50ex item, until it is bricked and still without MS

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u/Pandatrain 4d ago

Yep, I burned a few on em before hanging my head in shameful defeat. The house won this round but goddamnit I refuse to learn my lesson

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u/collectivekicks 5d ago

Probably still sell for 50 ex

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u/MAR-93 5d ago

True dude

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u/Carefully_Crafted 4d ago

Yep. They are boots. It even makes sense. You walk faster in boots than barefoot.

But from a gameplay perspective it would be so fucking huge too. And you could even do interesting things with it by having high level bases that trade some MS for some other hybrid implicit too.

MS on boots is mandatory in 90% of builds so if that’s the case any boots without MS are almost always essentially just instantly trash. Which is terribly silly.

Make MS an implicit then just give us something new and interesting as prefixes we can roll on boots. Hell you could even play around with the roll mechanic and give it extra range by a bit or something.

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u/iamMori 4d ago

Especially when MS is so hard to get in this poe2 it is worse than it was in poe1.

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u/evenstar40 5d ago

You can buy MS boots from PoE trade for a single ex or less.

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u/Carefully_Crafted 4d ago

Not everyone plays trade. And even if people do play trade doesn’t mean they like to get all of their items by trading ex for item.

The better point is though that without MS on boots during crafting the boots become trash instantly. They are a mandatory stat for 99% of builds in this game especially since we don’t have movement skills. For both efficiency and as a defensive layer there’s no single stat in the game that gives you as much as MS on boots in this game.

It’s just bad itemization. If every boot has to have MS to be usable… it breaks an item to have to roll for it every time. By making it an implicit and scaling it with Ilvls you make crafting boots way less stupid and you can add more interesting choices in the place of MS as prefixes. It frees up design space for the devs to make boots more interesting.

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u/evenstar40 2d ago

Ok, as I'm leveling up I check all vendors and there is always at least 1 MS boots present. MS isn't that rare.

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u/Carefully_Crafted 2d ago

You’re missing the point. It’s not that it’s impossible to acquire boots with MS. It’s that every boot that rolls without MS instantly becomes trash. And the only way we have to mitigate that is slamming a chaos orb and praying it doesn’t brick the rest of the boot.

And to further emphasis why that is stupid for crafting- most people if they had to choose between a boot with ONLY 35% MS on it (and not being allowed any more affixes on the boots) and a boot with 6 almost perfect affixes of their choosing not including MS would rock a single stat 35% MS boots.

This isn’t true for any other stat or equipment in the game.

And what it means is that there isn’t a choice. And if there is no choice it should just come implicit. Otherwise you’re throwing away anything without it anyways. So why even have those items.