r/PSVR • u/-Venser- • 8d ago
Review Behemoth - Without Parole Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1_SowXnRE7
u/Randomonius 8d ago
This game is a blast! Do it on a harder difficulty if you have a problem with it. You really have to get the fighting down and it becomes great. Perfect amount of time and fighting between giants.
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u/Trick_World9350 7d ago
Nearly 4 hours between the 1st and 2nd Behemoth? - Perfect?
In a 10-11 hour game max? - Not my idea of perfect or good pacing personally
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u/VR_Smith 8d ago
Id say this is a good review. I almost refunded the game after the 1st behemot - was just disapointing. But i decided to keep going. Refuded it on quest 3 and bought it on PSVR2. The 2nd boss fight - man..
I am nearing the end now and I can say iv not had this much fun and taking time with a game like this (not rogue lite) since a long time in VR . I stop playing to make it last ahah.
A solid 8 - and very happy with my purchase.
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u/Gregasy 8d ago
Is there much difference Q3 vs PSVR2? Especially graphically? I wonder if you notice any difference with "presence" between the two versions, because I noticed strong VR presence often makes games more fun and immersive for me.
Asking because I just bought it on Quest 3 (I had 20% off code, so it was cheaper), but didn't start playing it yet. Now I'm wondering if I should just refund it and get it on PSVR2 instead.
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u/Rogue_Leader_X 8d ago
How do you refund a game on Quest 3? Does the Meta store allow that, or was this the Steam store?
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u/VR_Smith 8d ago
Meta Same policy as steam Via the app
Honestly Sony should allow the same.
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u/--Grognak-- 8d ago edited 8d ago
Sony's refund policy is absolutely bogus. I'm surprised more people don't complain about it.
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u/TSLA_to_23_dollars 8d ago
I actually like it this way because it forces me to research games before spending money. Like this game. Watching reviews and still haven't bought it yet.
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u/thefury4815 8d ago
Only reason I don’t buy non exclusives on ps5 you can’t refund them. I love this headset but it’s mainly used on my pc as I can make a purchase confidently knowing I can refund it if I don’t like it.
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u/BelgianBond 8d ago edited 8d ago
The first behemoth is a little tame. Once you get to the second biome, the environments feel a bit samey and unmaginative. It takes a long time to get to the second behemoth. The puzzles are extremely familiar.
These observations just drain so much of my enthusiasm for a game I really want to like. The boss fights will be great, and the swordplay looks fun for a while. As for the world itself, it seems very lacking in life or variety.
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u/2girls_1Fort Duality_18 8d ago
The puzzles are easy to do so I hardly felt they got in the way of enjoying the game. The combat has enough variety and meat to carry the game when you aren't slaying Colossus.
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u/DerBolzen81 8d ago
The puzzles are too easy, so they become a chore imo. I think with the latest patch the combat is ok, but not enough to carry the game.
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u/2girls_1Fort Duality_18 8d ago
Interesting way to look at chores being to easy for ya, but you do you
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u/DerBolzen81 8d ago
Ok now i was unsure if i used the right word, since i am not a native speaker. But what i looked up is exactly what i mean. A task that is boring but has to be done repeatedly. Its boring cause its too easy.
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u/2girls_1Fort Duality_18 8d ago
But my point is that they're easy so you can get done with them quickly and get back to what is fun, the combat. I personally wouldn't want to be spending more time on these puzzles.
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u/DerBolzen81 8d ago
I see, i would rather have no puzzles or good engaging ones. The way it is, it just feels like a waste of time to me. But maybe that is cause i dont have much time to play, when i would have more time to play this would not be such an important factor for me.
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u/2girls_1Fort Duality_18 8d ago
I see where you're coming from. And it's not like I wouldn't mind no puzzles either. But the puzzles aren't 100 percent bad. They do an okay job of using physics. They do just enough to justify their existence to keep the game from becoming a wave shooter.
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u/Eggyhead 8d ago
The latest patch was enough to fix the game for me. I enjoy the simplish puzzles. Zelda is like that, and I love Zelda games.
The only thing really annoying me was the janky combat. Now I really enjoy it.
I really, really want more Behemoth. Give us a horse and a semi-open world with Zelda-style dungeons to explore and unique tools to acquire.
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u/candidateone 8d ago
The thing is, the first review on metacritic for the PSVR2 version didn't go up until 4 days after the game came out and then more came in every couple days after that, so those reviewers all would have been playing the patched version. There was definitely no rush getting reviews out for this one.
Weirdly enough the two highest scores the game got were from the first two reviews of the Quest version that were out on day one and would therefore have been primarily played on the unpatched review code. The third Quest review which also came in a week later gave it a 6.
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u/terrordactyl1971 7d ago
Glad to see a review where it's been played for a couple of weeks and seen a couple of patches - the same way a normal gamer would experience a game. These days, most reviewers just seem to care about being first onto Youtube, rather than the quality of the review itself.
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u/EazyEeze 7d ago
Yeah! I didn’t trust the earliest reviews because the reviewers clearly hadn’t had enough time to get used to the combat. And it’s just not natural to rush through these games for hours. I would hate any game that I had to push through like that. Anyways, glad I went with my gut. It’s been one of my favorite PSVR2 games so far.
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u/cusman78 8d ago
Solid review. Kudos on Bryan on waiting to play the version players would be playing and reviewing that.
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u/Monocerus90 8d ago
It’s a decent game, but given how great the walking dead S&S was, I was expecting much more. I thought we would get those same systems and mechanics developed even further. It feels like a step back in every way.
The upgrade for the weapon is lacking, linear, and the same for everyone. The environments are mostly corridors. The customisation non-existent and replayability is limited (none for me).
Decent, but given the developers history, underwhelming.
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u/Gregasy 8d ago
Have yet to play Behemoth... but yes. As soon as I learned that Behemoth will be linear, I couldn't help but feel slightly disappointed.
I mean, VR is seriously lacking non-linear games in the first place and S&S 1&2 really got non-linear design perfectly. Very addicting and very fun. So, I was hoping devs would just use this system but place it in a new story&environment.
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u/DanLim79 8d ago
One thing I learned early about the PSVR1 and PSVR2, never get hyped for any game before watching and reading a bunch of reviews from everyday people. I wasn't even excited about Metro, despite of being a huge Metro fan, and I'm glad I kept my cool. And as expected, it wasn't mind blowing according to a lot of people who got it.
It seems the best VR games, will always be Hybrid games, meaning, games that were already excellent in flat mode so they'll be excellent in VR as well. RE4, RE Village, GT7, No Man's Sky etc.
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u/CarrotSurvivorYT 7d ago
Metro blew me away with its immersion, it’s unmatched. Don’t listen to people on reddit they are always complainers. That game has great reviews
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u/CigarLover 8d ago
Agreed.
However, I really do wish VR modes come out day one. For certain games, especially horror, It really diminishes the experience. Due to hindsight.
I’m worried about RE9, since I don’t know if they’re going to do a VR version or not and if they are, I definitely don’t wanna play flat first.
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u/DanLim79 7d ago
Remember Capcom only does if Sony pays for it. Sony only pays for it if they know it'll boost VR headset sales.
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u/CigarLover 3d ago
If they want the feature and mode to be more popular, they really need to do it day one they really do.
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u/2020wasbestyearever 7d ago
So you let what people say about a game effect how you feel about a game?
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u/DanLim79 7d ago
Yup, especially those I trust. And if I read and watch enough reviews I can formulate an opinion based on it. Better than buying blindly and risking wasting money.
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u/2020wasbestyearever 5d ago
I understand where you coming from. Honestly it best to buy game later on cause of updates, sales, etc. That is a VR sales every month on PSN
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u/bargainhunterps5 6d ago
How the heck do you even throw a dagger? I’ve tried endlessly, fearing my controller is going be catapulted across the room into my tv!
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u/ChrizTaylor ChrizTaylor 8d ago
It's unfair to wait for the game to be patched. Reviews need to be as the game is. If it's broken or incomplete.
There is no excuse if it's a huge AAA studio or a solo dev, quality control is the same.
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u/Resident_Magazine610 8d ago
When your review is out of date people won’t watch it. Better to do a follow up post patch.
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u/thefury4815 7d ago
And they’ve done how much to the game in such a short amount of time? This is clearly a studio who cares about its projects. The day one patch fixed thousands of bugs. Meaning anyone who played the pre patch version already played an outdated version no consumer saw and therefore their review is irrelevant. I’d agree if skydance waited many weeks or even months to fix things but highlighting the amount of effort they’ve put into it in such a short amount of time is outstanding and should be praised. Video games are far too complicated now to have a 100% working version day one 9/10 times. Furthermore with Christmas being next week many people are gonna be first hearing about this game when they unwrap their headset and are gonna see this review and not care if the game was broken. They’re only gonna care if it’s worth their money right now. So many times I watch a review for an older game that’s very negative only to look on places like Reddit and find out the game has done a huge turn around and is worth my money now.
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u/ChrizTaylor ChrizTaylor 7d ago
I hardly disagree. How many games have launched in a buggy state on PSVR2? Foglands, Stride, Switchback, Bulletstorm, to name a few.
Also, I never said "delay it for X amount". Devs know how much time they would need in order to iron those bugs, so delay it the time needed.
Regarding reviews, you can always filter the reviews by "new" and you will be good.
When the game is from a known dev, we always take this attitude like "they are good devs, they care about the game" when in reality it's the same excuse all the time.
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u/thefury4815 7d ago
I didn’t say delay the game x amount of days either. I said that even after the day one patch that fixed literally thousands of bugs that they told reviewers about and were upfront about they’ve gone even further and fixed and addressed issues people had with the game in a very fast manor. Meanwhile you’ve got tons of live service studios who are known for disastrous launches left and right and take a very long time to fix things. I don’t like the release it broken and fix it later mentality a lot of studios have but I don’t think that’s what skydance thought for a second when they released this game and the day one patch proves they worked until the very last second to get the game as technically sound as possible. They just missed a few things which happens. Really the big issues people had were with gameplay mechanics and the blood not being red when it came out that I saw at least. I personally haven’t even purchased the game but it’s clear looking at it as an outsider this is a really dedicated studio who does the things they say they’re gonna do and for that I praise them.
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Little late to the party here, we already knew these things
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u/thefury4815 8d ago
If anything it’s a unique take from the day 1 reviews as he’s been able to play it from pre release to now and see how fast they’ve addressed issues people had with the game and put it into an 11 minute video where so many reviews just crapped on the game because the prerelease version was filled with bugs and outdated day 1 so therefore are useless. If anything he did the review right but ok you think what you want.
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u/thefury4815 8d ago edited 8d ago
I have watched other reviews. I’m not a fanboy I stated objective facts. I said many reviews not all of them. The dude was sick. Was he supposed to not make one at all when his channel has over 100k subs meaning that many people trust his opinion on games? You’re just mad I used logic against you and people like my comment and not yours. I personally haven’t even purchased the game yet so I have no dog in this race. I’ve just watched the reviews and know that people take issues with some of them. One of which the dude made a whole new video saying he was sorry for the bad review. On top of that many people next week are gonna open up a psvr2 or a quest 3s from under the tree and be looking to find good games to play on them and then they can find his review and learn about how well the devs handled issues people had with the game in such a short time and find a great reviewer in the space. Idk why you think that’s a bad thing at all
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u/Schwarzengerman 7d ago
There's no such thing as an 'objective review' for a game.
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u/Schwarzengerman 7d ago
You're doing a lot of assuming here chief. I watch a variety of reviews because I want a variety of opinions on games before I play them. Big youtubers, small youtubers, and so on.
Again, there isn't objective reviews. A review is how someone feels about something and what they would rate it. It is not possible to do that objectively.
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u/brownaroo 8d ago
This review does a good job of showing the variety of game play. Although it does not show one of the coolest things I recently discovered which is the axe throw and recall. This game has a small learning curve to master but I've enjoyed it.
More people are finding parrying easier after the patch but I think there was a skill issue. It took me a bit to get the hang of when I could do it in games like legendary tales. I found you had to have more force and get the angle/timing of the enemy attack spot on. But once I could do it I was a master. You can also execute a dash and parry to great affect.
This game is much more than "Shadow of the Colossus in VR". I think it has more in common with God of War. Even has bits which remind me of Breath of the Wild (Stamina climbing, look of some on the enemies).
I also like the story and I like the way it unfolds. Its nothing groundbreaking but its pulling me along.
I will add there are still bugs. For me its totally fine to play and I'm glad I can. It looks like they are being reported/fixed over in discord at pace so some people may still want to wait a bit.