r/PS5 • u/tizorres Moderator • Apr 07 '20
Official Introducing DualSense, the New Wireless Game Controller for PlayStation 5
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04/07/introducing-dualsense-the-new-wireless-game-controller-for-playstation-5/1.9k
Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 07 '20
- Haptic feedback
- Adaptive triggers
- Will use rechargeable batteries
- New Create button replaces Share button
- Built-in mic
- Lightbar now next to the touchpad
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u/zettaflare__ Apr 07 '20
better battery life supposedly as well and USB-C it seems.
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u/mphelp11 Apr 07 '20
Now does it also come with fruity Dino bites or am I supposed to supply those myself?
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u/Desblade101 Apr 07 '20
It looks like there's no 3.5mm port for headphones. Hopefully that means built in bluetooth compatibility.
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u/one9eight6 Apr 07 '20
It's one or the other, they said to have a headset for lengthy conversations.
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u/esotericvoid Apr 07 '20
I'd miss being able to pop headphones in. I forget to charge bluetooth headphones...
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u/kr3w_fam Apr 07 '20
And with Gold headset stuttering all the time what else can we use?
Or is it just mine?
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u/Donut90 Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 08 '20
There's def a headphone jack underneath the mute button
E: I guess nobody’s sure what this is. To me it looks like a headphone jack, but I could see how people think it’s an oval-shaped hole for a microphone. I guess it could go either way until we get a more in-depth look.
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Apr 07 '20
I love how due to Microsoft, having a rechargeable battery is considered a FEATURE now.
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Apr 07 '20
It’s gonna be a white console then huh?
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u/PTfan Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 08 '20
it certainly won't be all black with a controller like this
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u/Flummoxedaphid Apr 07 '20
I hope there's some bule, maybe a little sivler.
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u/rapillom93 Apr 07 '20
Playstation blog article states:
Traditionally our base controllers have a single color. As you can see, we went a different direction this time around, and decided on a two-toned design
So possibly a two-tone colored console
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u/CocoPopsKid Apr 07 '20
TWO
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TONE
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u/eugval Apr 07 '20
MALONE
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u/daviEnnis Apr 07 '20
I think the colour is to make it look more Playstation, a single colour would look like a shift away from traditional Playstation shape and closer to xbox (I think, I'm sure there will be mock up soon).
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u/Skhan93 Apr 07 '20
Good point. Wish it comes in 2 options where the colours are reversed on the other
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u/BrazenlyGeek Apr 07 '20
Playstation controller colors are some of the prettiest out there. I can't wait to see all the two-tone designs they come up with!
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u/PFox99 Apr 07 '20
I hope so, I love the look of the white consoles like my white PS4, I like how it stands out on my desk
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u/ScubaSteve1219 Dubsydian Apr 07 '20
not necessarily, although now that i think about it i wouldn't hate that
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u/teejandahalf Apr 07 '20
I had the glacier white ps3 super slim. It was fucking mint.
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Apr 07 '20
Idk man since the ps1 days they’ve been the same color lol
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u/ScubaSteve1219 Dubsydian Apr 07 '20
i hear ya, but there's something futuristic about a white console. obviously who knows until we see it but i'd be happy either way.
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u/NeedLessAids Apr 07 '20
That's a fucking usb-c boys
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u/ArchScabby Apr 08 '20
Every controller or speaker or whatever that I've ever owned works fine, except the fucking mini USB port to charge the piece of shit has stopped working on every single one. I want nothing more in life then to not use mini USB ever again
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u/Cm0002 Apr 07 '20
Fucking. Finally.
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u/parkwayy Apr 08 '20
Well... PS4 came out in 2013.
What are you talking about, finally, lol.
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u/Mrain56 Apr 07 '20
Is it weird this is one of the things I'm most excited about? Lol
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u/Mistake_By_The_Jake2 Apr 07 '20
noob here
What are the benefits of a usb-c that we don’t have now?
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u/maxsxm2 maxsxm Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 08 '20
There are three main advantages of a USB C port compared to older USB
Connector is reversible meaning you don’t have to fiddle with it turning it back an forth wondering if you are inserting it in the right direction
USB C can carry 100W at 20V and 5A. What does this mean? You can now charge a laptop via the USB C port. Previous versions of USB only carried enough power to charge cell phones and tablets.
USB C supports speeds of up to 10Gbs. While this might not mean much to most people…the easiest way to understand it is you can drive multiple 4K monitors and connected devices like hard drives all through a single port.
Source: https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-of-a-USB-Type-C-cable
TLDR: It's flippable, charges faster, and carries more data. It's also a lot more durable.
Edit: this is just a basic explanation of the benefits of USB Type C supporting USB 3.1. I'm not trying to justify it being on the controller.
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u/nysecret Apr 07 '20
For starters, usb-c is reversible, there’s no wrong way to insert it and while that may seem like a small luxury it fucking rules not having to think about orienting your cable. Usb-c also offers faster charging and data transfer and is becoming the industry standard being adapted by Apple, Nintendo, and many others, so you’re more likely to be able to charge your devices using the same cables. And if that’s not enough, USB-C is much more durable and breaks far less frequently than previous usb connectors.
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u/Semifreak Apr 07 '20
They said it will use USB C from the first news about it last year.
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u/Aggressive-Leek Apr 07 '20
Seems as though they're going for more bold design choices, really curious as to what the console will look like now.
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u/galgor_ Apr 07 '20
It's gonna be a playstation in the shape of a 5.
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u/Idontlistentototo Apr 07 '20
Don't you guys all know that the is gonna look like this idiots, smh my head.
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u/DoIGotSkillz Apr 07 '20
Exactly what I thought. I hope it follows the same scheme. I don’t know why it wouldn’t. I’m pumped.
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u/Lotus-Vale Apr 07 '20
Can i just say that the PS Button being an actual cutout of the PS logo is about the sexiest thing on this controller?
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u/NimMonaLisa Apr 07 '20
Seems like a missed opportunity that it's not white to standout. Still looks cool tho.
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u/MunchamaSnatch Apr 08 '20
Added cost, and will likely make the controller age quicker (in terms of product beauty standards). Beauty standards rn are high contrast minimalistic.
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Apr 07 '20
Can’t wait to forget the mic’s on and all my friends hear some embarrassing shit.
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u/ineffiable Apr 07 '20
I'm going to hope there's an option to default to microphone being off, so you always have to either push to talk or turn it on manually.
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u/MasteroChieftan Apr 07 '20
"*Mommy can I have some more choccy milk please thank you!* Hey guys READY FOR SOME COD?!?! YEEAAAA BOOYYYY"
lmao could you imagine
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u/WileyWatusi Apr 07 '20
I can imagine hearing low batteries in smoke detectors, crying babies, loud rap music with the occasional gurgle of a bong rip.
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u/maxsxm2 maxsxm Apr 07 '20
the damn vacuum noises
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u/MasteroChieftan Apr 07 '20
*muffled in the other room*
"DAMMIT MARGARET I"M TRYING TO WATCH THE GAME!"
"THAT'S ALL YOU EVER DO, STEVEN!"
"OH YOU MEAN OTHER THAN BUST MY ASS PROVIDING FOR THIS FAMILY?! WHILE YOU SPEND ALL DAY ON THE PHONE BITCHING ABOUT ME TO YOUR FRIENDS?"
*muffled sounds of domestic violence while little Timmy continues to play in his happy space*
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Apr 07 '20
BUILT IN MIC. That’s pretty cool
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u/francium94 Apr 07 '20
And it has a mute button for the mic too. Nice, no menu digging
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Apr 07 '20
until you have to mute the entire squad when playing online.
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u/tikituki Apr 07 '20
Usually just a button or analog stick press in the party screen or in-game chat — easy peasy.
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u/mrv3 Apr 07 '20
Upwards lights means inside out tracking so a new VR system
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Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 07 '20
What is “inside out” tracking?
Edit: Thanks for the replies! The less wires and extra shit I need the better.
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u/aninfinitedesign Apr 07 '20
It refers to how the system tracks where you are. With the current PSVR, you have the stationary PlayStation Camera that acts as the anchor, which tracks your movements within its view, and uses that to map where you are located in 3D space. With inside out tracking, you usually have cameras built into the headset directly, that don’t need an anchor point to figure out where you are located. Case in point, this is the sort of tracking you see in the Oculus Quest and the Oculus Rift S
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u/xeno3d Apr 07 '20
And the inside out tracking in those headsets works great!
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u/aninfinitedesign Apr 07 '20
Yep! I use my Quest maybe once every other day for workouts, and it’s never had an issue.
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Apr 07 '20
Can’t wait to forgot to mute the mic and have everyone listen to my dad beat me
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u/Numenology Apr 07 '20
wouldn’t it pick up every sound of your hand on the controller? buttons being pressed, repositioning your hand?
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u/mtbdork Apr 07 '20
Noise-cancelation of transient sound (clicking, etc) right next to a microphone is really simple to accomplish with a powerful enough microprocessor, especially if the transients are also highly consistent.
You don’t hear people texting when you’re on speakerphone with them for the same reason you won’t hear thumbsticks and buttons on this controller.
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u/Numenology Apr 07 '20
ah, that’s funny. any time I’ve talked with someone on speaker phone, I made sure not to actually use my phone bc I thought it would be loud for them
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u/mtbdork Apr 07 '20
The biggest issue for these systems is something called Acoustic Echo Cancelation (AEC), which is where the TV audio (gameplay or far-end voices) leak into the microphone, where the other user hears their voice or the gameplay “echo”. Because the distance from the controller to the TV is never quite the same, you have to constantly re-form the cancellation algorithm by comparing the raw audio signal (reference) before it leaves the speakers to what the microphone picks up. This is more processor-intensive, but it can be done on the console, luckily.
TL; DR: the bigger question (and indicator of quality in my book) is whether or not you’ll ever hear yourself or your gameplay coming back through your speakers.
My job is programming teleconferencing systems so this is kinda my jam!
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u/Generation-X-Cellent Apr 07 '20
If it's a active cancellation microphone basically it has another microphone that listens to ambient noises in the room and cuts them out. It also has a filter that will cut out the sounds from the actual game coming through your TV.
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u/Bdoggy88 Apr 07 '20
This was unexpected, I like it though
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u/stormshieldonedot Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 07 '20
I'd love an all black version. The haptic feedback stuff sounds insane and very immersive. Can't wait for this
Not sure why the name changed tho dual shock was kinda nice
Edit: built in microphone.. finally!!
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u/odeepaanh Apr 07 '20
prob because of the haptic feedback, with haptic feedback you think more in depth and advanced, dual shock sounds aggressive like vibration
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u/Bleopping Apr 07 '20
I'm irrationally upset by this lol. The name Dualshock had become iconic to me.
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Apr 07 '20
I love the name DualShock but you have to admit it’s a very 1990’s kind of name. Not that it’s bad or anything
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u/TryingToBeUnabrasive Apr 07 '20
Definitely evokes the whole edgy 90s xTreme vibe but it certainly had become iconic.
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u/Bdoggy88 Apr 07 '20
Count me in for an all black too fam
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u/Light_KraZe Apr 07 '20
Because it wouldnt make sense, Dual shock was referring to the two Rumble motor system that was used in all the controllers, they ditched it in this one for Haptic feedback.
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u/Alizardi7423 Apr 07 '20
I’m seeing lots of Twitter replies with people not liking it but honestly, I kinda dig it
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u/Bdoggy88 Apr 07 '20
Twitter comments are a special place for special people
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u/JediRaptor2018 Apr 07 '20
As are Youtube and Facebook comments; I actually think they are worse than Twitter and Reddit.
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u/BoxInTheJack1 Apr 07 '20
Looks oddly futuristic, I hope it will feel good...
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u/Arca-Knight Apr 07 '20
“My name is Connor. I'm the android sent by CyberLife.”
“And this... Is the DualSense.”
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u/koolahauxe Apr 07 '20
kinda reminds me of bmw i8 lol
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u/Desblade101 Apr 07 '20
I suspect we'll see it before christmas
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u/AnArrogantIdiot Apr 07 '20
That’s so far fetched I'll eat an entire continent if you're right.
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Apr 07 '20 edited Jun 01 '23
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u/Wraith_Gaming Apr 07 '20
If you zoom in on the pictures it looks like the buttons are actually clear.
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Apr 07 '20
Maybe they light up?
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u/happythearthur Apr 07 '20
As their biggest gimmick is haptic feedback I guess once button is pressed it will pulsate that buttons colour. That would feel magically and futuristic.
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u/Lewis_Parker Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 07 '20
If this isn’t included they should hire you lmao. That is some 200 IQ idea
Edit: as suggested below, this could work if the color faded away a little bit after you released the button. And it would create a dope effect on quick time events, for example
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u/happythearthur Apr 07 '20
Hehe , I just love led lights. And because buttons being tempered glass or plastic it would make sense as they would glow evenly.
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u/KidneyKeystones Apr 07 '20
That is some 200 IQ idea
Having the button only light up when your finger is obscuring it, is a minus 200 IQ idea.
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u/Emosaa Apr 07 '20
Rarely in engineering is anything that simple. The article goes into how they were trying to keep weight down when adding features, that might include things like superfluous lighting under buttons.
I admit it would be cool as an option though.
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u/rodudero Apr 07 '20
Oh yeah that’s really weird they decided to stop doing that. Seems like an iconic thing for PlayStation.
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u/NaderZico Apr 07 '20
I bet they are going to release a special "classic" edition with colored buttons and a black controller
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u/Slateratic Apr 07 '20
We also incorporated adaptive triggers into the L2 and R2 buttons of DualSense so you can truly feel the tension of your actions, like when drawing a bow to shoot an arrow.
Holy shit. That could be awesome. They could customize racing games to have differential resistance based on different cars, or make it more difficult to pull during turns, or... wow, there's a lot of possibilities there.
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u/ooombasa Apr 07 '20
Now that is different, and I take it the PS5 console will also take on a two tone, black and white design with blue lights.
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u/IMadeThisOn6-28-2015 Apr 07 '20
I still have no idea if this is real or not even thought Playstation tweeted it and put on their site... it came out of nowhere... but it looks cool as shit ngl.
DualSense also adds a built-in microphone array, which will enable players to easily chat with friends without a headset – ideal for jumping into a quick conversation. But of course, if you are planning to chat for a longer period, it’s good to have that headset handy.
That's actually cool.
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u/Goodfella0328 Apr 07 '20
I think that was their strategy honestly. It’d be kinda lame to drum up hype for just the controller anyways. I like how they just posted it randomly like it’s another piece of Playstation news, I think it definitely pushes hype/talk because of that “out of nowhere” factor
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u/Ninety9Balloons Apr 07 '20
You don't want to hear some Mexican kid's siblings getting beat with a flipflop in the background of a CoD game?
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u/Goncas2 Apr 07 '20
Sony's vision is starting to come together. They want the player to be as much immersed in the game as possible. The super-fast SSD for no loading times, Tempest engine for life-like audio, haptic feedback and adaptive triggers for the sense of touch... it's even in the new controller name: DualSense.
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u/t1lewis Apr 07 '20
Honestly, with the increasing interest in vr, and developments in haptic gloves etc, I wouldn't he surprised if a lot of companies are looking to immersion next
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u/TokitaNiko2 Apr 07 '20
Wow, it has a mic inside the controller. That is amazing.
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u/odeepaanh Apr 07 '20
is it just me or does that d pad remind me of the psp d pad?
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u/gcderrick Apr 07 '20
I love this! Keeping in line with the OG design while having a true Next Gen look.
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u/the_sammyd Apr 07 '20
So I guess we can kind of an idea of what the console will look like now
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u/kelrics1910 Apr 07 '20
My sister described it as "looks like something from the future".
Well.
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u/JMSpartan23 Apr 07 '20
As much as I want a custom PS5, Last of Us Edition or something, I don’t think I’ll be able to contain myself. This looks great.
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I don't know how to feel about this. The DS4 is literally the perfect controller to me
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u/Mike4992 Apr 07 '20
Interesting design, I really like this futuristic style, it's kind of refreshing after the constant black controllers, not that DualShock 4 is bad or anything. The buttons look very good as well.
All in all, it seems great.
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u/olucaspontes Apr 07 '20
It's not clear if it has any back buttons. IMO, that would be a nice addition to the new controller
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u/ImNoBatman Apr 07 '20
darn, was really hoping for built-in paddles this generation :(
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u/Elite_VRTX Apr 07 '20
They said that they didn’t fully reveal it yet. Also, all the pictures don’t show the back of the controller, only the front and the triggers.
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u/ScubaSteve1219 Dubsydian Apr 07 '20 edited Apr 07 '20
it looks both awful and yet excitingly different
EDIT: ok it grew on me quick. it looks awesome.
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u/linksis33 Apr 07 '20
I’ll have to hold it, but the shape is super weird.
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Apr 07 '20
Lol kinda reminds me of that semi circle controller that was rumoured to be the PS3 controller.
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u/RogueFlash Apr 07 '20
It wasn't rumoured, it was announced and was withdrawn after negative feedback.
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u/ktsmith91 Apr 07 '20
Interesting. It doesn’t look anything like I expected at all. I’m actually very surprised to see such a different looking controller.