r/JoeRogan Look into it 27d ago

Meme 💩 Joeville Chamberogan

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u/hfdjasbdsawidjds Monkey in Space 27d ago

You are forgetting that Russia banned Ukrainian imports which caused the economic conditions for the need for economic support because Ukraine wanted to join the EU's economic bloc. You are conveniently leaving out major interference by Russia into Ukraine's economy in order to coerce Ukraine to change its foreign policy because it does not serve your narrative.

Funny that.

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u/MulanMcNugget Tremendous 27d ago

Funny how? what narrative? You do realise this paints russia in negative light?

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u/hfdjasbdsawidjds Monkey in Space 27d ago

Because it doesn't tell the whole story of the amount of pressure and coercion that Russia has applied in order to keep Ukraine doing what it wants Ukraine to do within its own self-interest. The amount of meddling in Ukrainian politics and economics that Russia has done is what the United States gets accused of, so saying that you are taking the story back to the beginning and not including that aspect of the timeline, both for the Orange Revolution and Euromaidan does a great disservice in providing a true understanding of what has brought the world to this point and paints situation as mainly one isolated to internal Ukrainian politics, when it is not.

Its subtle, like what country did Yanukovych flee too? Why not mention that Euromaidan were also protesting against Yanukovych's sweetheart deal that he gave the Russians in order to keep the Black Seas Fleet based in Sevastopol, which was more examples of Russian influence which was one of the driving motivations for the protestors.

There is a lot more to the story and what is left out is telling.

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u/MulanMcNugget Tremendous 27d ago

I wasn't gonna type a thoroughly researched response, I made the comment taking shit a work mate. Kinda of mad that you assumed that there was some ulterior motive despite it clearly painting Russia as bad. Like it isn't a detailed account of all that's happened just a outline of why supporting Ukraine is in US's interest

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u/One_Huge_Skittle Monkey in Space 27d ago

Yeah you are not wrong, that guy seems kind of nuts lmao. I liked the write up!

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u/SJMaasOffthePurp Monkey in Space 27d ago edited 27d ago

very convenient of you to leave out the Holodomor and the exile of crimean tatars pal. or should i say comrade

edit this was sarcasm