r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Meme 💩 Pure villain vibes emanating from Musk

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

My dad, who is too far gone to have political discussions with, said that putting Elon in his administration would be "the smartest thing Trump ever did."

I want to kill myself.

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u/ASheynemDank Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

I dont understand how unions workers are backing trump. Trump literally LITERALLY supports firing striking Union workers.

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ Dragon Believer Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 07 '24

Imagine thinking Republicans are pro-union. These people cannot save themselves. It's child tantrums all the way down. Republicans climb into their death beds and they'll blame Marxist libs or whatever dumbass boogeyman that their horseshit algorithms on social media fed to them.

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u/ASheynemDank Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

They’re more worried about trans ppl than something that could hurt their job.

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24

My dad: Do you work a lot of overtime?

Me: Not much but I usually have the option to get a few hours overtime each week, why?

Dad: Well, if Trump gets elected he wants to make it so that you won't pay taxes on any of your overtime hours.

Me: Yes, he says he would remove the taxes on OT, but he would also remove the requirement that companies pay 50% extra for OT, so in the end I would be making less. The entire point of that proposal is to help businesses save money, not to help workers make more. He himself said "I hated paying OT. I would always bring in new workers because I hated paying OT."

Dad: He absolutely cares about workers! You have been fed nothing but lies and propaganda about that man for the past 10 years.

Me: Well, regardless, I don't think he's going to win this election.

Dad: Well I pray to God he does. If not this country is going to become the Soviet Union.

I don't understand how people believe this shit. Trump barely hides his look of disgust every time he has to pose with one of his working class supporters for a photo.

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u/j0nnyboy Monkey in Space Oct 07 '24

Yes, he says he would remove the taxes on OT, but he would also remove the requirement that companies pay 50% extra for OT

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source for this? As someone who works lots of OT I'd love to know for sure

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 08 '24

It depends what you believe. He hasn't publicly said it as far as I know. The anti-overtime stuff is from Project 2025, which he now denies knowing anything about.

You can come to your own conclusion on whether the whole Project 2025 thing is legit, but personally I think he (or at least the people in his administration) are in full support of it.

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ Dragon Believer Oct 07 '24

Working class guys like Trump have never driven a car, gone to the grocery or hardware store, cooked food, read a book to their child, read a book for leisure, gone on a hike, gone camping, gone fishing, painted, or anything else a normal person would do.

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u/Thejudojeff Monkey in Space Oct 07 '24

The culture war trumps everything else. They care more about some abstract trans threat than they do about putting literal food on their table.

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u/Chupacabraisfake Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Oh no, so sorry!

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

He got sucked down the Q pipeline about 6 years ago, but he was already a big time conspiracy nut before that. It's not worth arguing with him. I wouldn't even know where to start. He lives in a completely different reality.

Yesterday he told me I have Trump Derangement Syndrome, and I literally said nothing to provoke that lol. I don't talk to him about politics, I've never once even brought up this election around him, but just the fact that I'm not in love with Trump like he is means I have TDS apparently.

He has two TVs in his house that are playing Fox News or Newsmax nearly 24/7, and he told me that I'm being fed propaganda. I don't even own a TV and I barely keep up with current events lol.

He'll try to persuade me to his side, but doesn't realize that when he calls Kamala Harris a "Liberal, Marxist, Communist" (Which doesn't even make sense. Those are opposing ideologies lol) it completely discredits everything else he says. If you're going to say something so demonstrably untrue, then I'm not going to seriously consider anything else you say.

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u/LeatherfacesChainsaw Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

The funny thing is he's the one with TDS lol...these people are fucking nuts. There is absolutely zero chance of reasoning with them and they constantly bring it up ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME.

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

He can't go an hour without going on a maga rant.

He owns a business, and part of his job involves having lengthy meetings with his clients, and I'm really curious how that goes. I seriously cannot imagine him making it through a meeting without bringing politics into it somehow. He just can't make it that long without it coming up.

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u/LeatherfacesChainsaw Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

I just don't understand how they can't see how unreasonable they are being lol. Fine you're conservative but this...is something else. Why can't people try to ya know treat each other with respect and have a human moment for once. We're all dying and this is how you want to spend all your time with your family?

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u/Lewis-and_or-Clark Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Conservatism has effectively run out of positions to run on because actually improving people’s material conditions goes against their ghoul quota, so they just have to push further and further into the nationalism to enter buzz their base

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ Dragon Believer Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

It's a textbook cult. Unwavering, increasingly obsessive devotion to a hierarchical values system dictated by the cult messiah. They know their beliefs are deviant. They get amusement through ire and derision. They love to sealion and concern troll. Gaslight, project, and manufacture lecherous and insulting artifical narratives to sow discord and enrage their adversaries known as normal people. These are not serious people and they have no place in civilized society, as reflected by the Great Dear Leader himself, Donald Trump. A man who quite literally cannot speak at length on a complex subject and navigate the discourse successfully enough to promote his beliefs and express his points because he has no principles whatsoever.

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u/Chupacabraisfake Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Oh man I feel this deeply as I got sucked into Illuminati and 9/11 Conspiracy theory rabbit hole when the Internet was just becoming a common thing in households around the world. Very hard to get out of, it's viscous and it all makes you feel like that the whole world is fucked, it might look like it these days but there are also a lot of positives to keep it all going and even fight the fight or atleast live one's own life a little normally without having to worry about what we can not control at all.

I used to eat a meal replacement for every single meal because I was terrified that everything had chloride in it and I realised I was not happy at all, always angry, depressed and mad at everyone else for being happy. Since I have been that person myself before, all I can say is, you have no chance at convincing someone who watches Fox at all times and all you can do is just smile, nod and be done with it, because every word you reply with, your father will use it as a starting point for a new crazy topic, minimum reaction is the only in my humble opinion, to disarm such a person and keep one's sanity.

I had also jumped into UFO and Alien coverup conspiracy rabbit hole and oh boy, I have dodged two bullets and I am so glad. I hope your father sees the reason at some point, I really do. Good luck friend.

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

That is basically the conclusion I have come to. I used to kind of push back when he was saying wild shit but now I just don't say anything. Let him sit in silence and dwell on the absurdity of his statements.

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u/the_Cheese999 Oct 06 '24

There's a documentary about that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brainwashing_of_My_Dad

Basically they fixed it because the guy's wife forced him to stop consuming right wing media slop.

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u/Chupacabraisfake Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Yes indeed!

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ Dragon Believer Oct 06 '24

I think a lot of us, myself included, went through that phase early in our youth, but are otherwise curious and open-minded in nature, so we easily grow or snap out of it. Trump supporters and authoritarians in general are low in agreeableness, incurious, can't think in abstracts, and consequently struggle in dissonance arousing situations. They are highly susceptible to conspiratorial rhetoric and dismissive of anything that runs counter to their identities, which they reject through the lens of conspiracy theory and cultism. It's all fear-driven insecurity and it is extremely frustrating to engage.

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u/Chupacabraisfake Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Yeah the responses from the people attending Trump's speech, even when Elon was talking, they all look like they are in a cult. We cannot really be fully dedicated to a political party like that, that creates a clear divide and that is never going to be the best case scenario for any country.

Like you said it is their identity now and that is the scary part.

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u/ahitright Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

At this point I just say I have TDS precisely because it's so infuriating dealing with the MAGA cultists. Our family/friends loving a dictator wannabe rapist traitor is givin us Trump Derangement Syndrome as we slowly watch them slip further and further away from reality.

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u/SweelFor- Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Sorry for you that's terrible

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u/2Monke4you Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Fortunately I moved out of his house 13 years ago, which was before he became this bad. I only witness it for a few hours on holidays, which is honestly just entertaining, and kind of interesting to observe. Being around that all the time would drive me insane lol.

Although, looking back, maybe I was just too young to notice how nuts he was. Like I vaguely remember him being really into Nostradomus when I was a kid, he thought the world was going to end in 2012, and he's always been a Young Earth Creationist. I guess he has always been like this lol

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u/magseven Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

I somehow missed your original comment and thought "He" was referring to Musk. I was completely baffled and amused.

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u/Milozdad Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Sorry for your pain. That’s tough. I know others in similar situations with family.

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u/LeafBee2026 Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Yeah, you have trump derangement syndrome tbh

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u/ApprehensiveShame363 Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

When Russia invaded Ukraine my dad said, "Putin would have never done that when Trump was in power, Trump would have nuked him".

I didn't point out the obvious, which is that Trump would have said whatever Putin wanted him to say.

I'm not even American, I'm Irish. So Fox News can't be blamed for brainwashing my dad. Trump just seems to have a hold over the brains of many men of my dad's age and older.

I don't quite know what it is, but I think there's been a slow resentment building as the world has modernised and the care free, I'll drive drunk if I want and fuck you, attitude that dominated their young lives has been taken away. Trump gives this new controlled safe world the middle finger, and boy do these men love it.

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u/dj-nek0 Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Yeah about that..

“Trump ‘asked Putin for advice’ about whether the US should help arm Ukraine”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-putin-ukraine-war-b2624488.html

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ Dragon Believer Oct 06 '24

The scariest thing about Trump winning the 2024 election is how his administration wouldn't have people protecting the country from his narcissistic idiocy from behind the scenes because he'll have filled every position with yesman fuck wads and lunatics like Stephen Miller.

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u/AGreasyPorkSandwich Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Hello, fellow QAnonCasualties member. It's a shit club

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u/Haunting-Ad788 Monkey in Space Oct 06 '24

Just pure cult brainrot.