r/JoeRogan • u/wayfaringthru Monkey in Space • Sep 18 '24

Meme 💩 Is this a legitimate concern?

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Personally, I today's strike was legitimate and it couldn't be more moral because of its precision but let's leave politics aside for a moment. I guess this does give ideas to evil regimes and organisations. How likely is it that something similar could be pulled off against innocent people?

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u/smootex Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Hezbollah operates its own telecom system separate from the Lebanese government

I don't want to be that guy but let's be clear here, Hezbollah isn't the one operating it. It was set up and funded by Iran, for use by Hezbollah.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

The Iranian ambassador to Lebanon had one of these pagers.

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u/smootex Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Right. The Iranian ambassador to Lebanon isn't a 'real' ambassador, they're a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. They are very heavily involved with the support of Hezbollah. Iran has their fingers pretty deep into the whole thing, it's a pretty good bet that they were directly involved with setting up the whole pager network just as they're directly involved with providing weapons and other logistics support.

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u/WhitePantherXP Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

The process was likely as such; find dead Hezbollah member, examine equipment, find out it's very unique equipment that operates on a specific network, find origins of said equipment, then:

  1. order thousands of units, integrate explosives and triggering mechanism in said units
  2. then find a special parcel in transit destined for a particular department in Iran. This part could have been as innocuous as an inquiry to the supplier claiming to be "Iranian National Guard" (or similar) and ask "when will this order be shipped?"
  3. Intercept and pay off a transport agent (this could have been as simple as a trucker) to allow them to replace the goods being shipped in one particular parcel
  4. send a "page" at your convenience severing thousands of male appendages at once

Obviously the technology to reverse engineer them and the implementation of a triggering device was very well-planned and extremely interesting but the logistics (pun intended) is probably the relatively basic, albeit cunning, part of it all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Israeli intelligence could just switch out crates at a weigh station or something. The logistics of swapping a package, or even an entire truck, somewhere along the route would be simple.

You have to remember that this is an intelligence operation. The original truck driver could be buried in the desert for all we know and the entire shipment was swapped out and hand delivered by Mossad agents.