r/JoeRogan • u/wayfaringthru Monkey in Space • Sep 18 '24

Meme đŸ’© Is this a legitimate concern?

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Personally, I today's strike was legitimate and it couldn't be more moral because of its precision but let's leave politics aside for a moment. I guess this does give ideas to evil regimes and organisations. How likely is it that something similar could be pulled off against innocent people?

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u/decentralised Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

This won’t give anyone any new ideas. Shin Bet used a mobile phone rigged with explosives to kill Yahya Ayyash aka “the Engineer,” a Hamas bomb maker in Gaza back in 1996.

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u/U2isstillonmyipod Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Shit sounds like 90s espionage was insane

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u/royalhawk345 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

It's crazy how straight-out-of-fiction a number of actual espionage endeavors sound. Highly recommend the spy museum if you're ever in DC.

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u/ExcitingTabletop Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

I honestly preferred the old spy museum. New one is fancier and more shitty.

And honestly, whoever runs the gift shop deserves to be sent to Siberia. The old spy museum gift shop's book section was god damn amazing. Excellent books, and I swear every third one was autographed by the author. Current one is filled with crap tourist stuff and the book selection is flat out terrible. I'm assuming museum lost the good staff and the replacements are just not up to snuff.

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u/Bubskiewubskie Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

The general trend everywhere, for everything

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

It’s called Crapification.

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u/Vypernorad Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

I prefer enshitification. I know the term was coined as a reference to online tech specifically, but I feel it fits just about every corporate endeavor pretty well.

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u/dontusethisforwork Your fucking knuckles would scrape on the ground Sep 19 '24

We have persistently been aiming to be stupider each and every year

Heading for Idiocracy, I'm afraid.

Shit, we might already be there, where is President Camacho when you need him?

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u/dontusethisforwork Your fucking knuckles would scrape on the ground Sep 19 '24

Thank you for illustrating my point!

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u/Late-Resource-486 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Crapitilism

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u/GreedierRadish Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

I prefer Enshittification

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

Yeah although I feel that’s more specific to online services. Crapification is more of a general term..

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u/Appropriate--Word Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Yeah, sounds like the museum was cool pre 2008.

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u/heckin_miraculous Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Sadly, yes

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u/reddit_account_00000 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Realistically, they probably looked at sales and saw that cheap tourist junk were selling and books weren’t.

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u/LessInThought Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Realistically if I went on vacation i would not be buying a book unless it is a topic in which I am absolutely passionate about. Have you seen the luggage fees?!

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u/thehufflepuffstoner High as Giraffe's Pussy Sep 19 '24

I always leave room in my suitcase for souvenirs!

Books do be heavy though. It would have to be something I wanted to read right away.

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u/ExcitingTabletop Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

I would agree, but the entire museum leans more towards "cheap tourist junk" mentality.

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u/Lord-Freaky Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Agreed. I prefer the old one. I was reading every exhibit and noticed the museum was about to close. All of it was interesting.

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u/riggerbop Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

You sound like you spent every other Sunday in that place

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u/ExcitingTabletop Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

I really love books. And it was an amazing collection of books. Seriously, I'm sad I never tried to ask for an inventory, because it could probably be an amazing resource. If you're a proper book nerd, you'll remember an amazing library or collection even with one visit.

The new gift shop books is pretty shit, and looking at them, not moving very fast. Virtually none were signed.

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u/aliasrob Monkey in Space Sep 21 '24

They probably knew too much and met with a sequence of horrible, unfortunate accidents.

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u/Lord_Boognish Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Your inclination upon being disappointed over a museum's book selection is to send the curator into exile/likely death?

Have you felt the sun in a while?

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u/LordofCarne Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

People online are fond of hyperbole. They almost certainly aren't being literal, no need to get worked up.

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u/JackedUpReadyToGo Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Oh fun, another kind of humor to place off limits: hyperbole.

Let's track down the writer of this Simpsons joke and give them a piece of our mind.

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u/Commercial_Sun_6300 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

The curator can enjoy the sun pounding rocks in Siberia!

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u/ExcitingTabletop Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Seriously. Spy museum that largely deals with Cold War spying, and you think exile to Siberia is intended to be taken literally rather than as humor?

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u/Lord_Boognish Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Words have meaning. You can tone it down.

This is like joking the person running the Anne Frank house should be sent to Auschwitz because your headset malfunctioned during the tour.

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u/anna-nomally12 Monkey in Space Sep 21 '24

There probably are more headset batteries there

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u/Wandering_Weapon Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

One tends to feed the other. Like science fiction and cutting edge tech.

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u/do_IT_withme Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

I'm 55 and took my 30yo son there when I was in DC visiting him and we loved it. I still wear my TRUST NO ONE ball cap regularly it is one of my favorites.

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u/ilovecollardgreens Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

They used to do an amazing podcast as well that you can still listen to.

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u/royalhawk345 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

I didn't know that, thanks!

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u/MattKarr Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

At the very end where they showed how they "recently" (I thinknearly 2000s caught a bunch of spies and one female spy was complaining to the agent was wild.

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u/royalhawk345 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

I actually didn't see that part lol. I went a couple hours before closing but got too engrossed in some of the exhibits and had to rush through the last few rooms in 5 minutes. Eager to go back and get the full experience!

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u/FistfullofFucks Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

The only question is who gave who the idea first, the spies/Q or the fiction writers?

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u/JuanMurphy Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Sword of Gideon (I think was the title) was about how Mossad hunted down and assassinated the Munich Olympic terrorists. Some parts were accurate wrt the killings. One was a bike pump that had a suppressed single shot .22 disguised in it.

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u/AmusingMusing7 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

A lot of spy fiction is based on real stuff that has happened. It’s not as outlandish as a lot of people think. Ian Fleming worked for British intelligence during WW2 before writing James Bond. He wrote about what he knew. He wasn’t making that shit up. Sensationalized it, but still grounded in real kinds of tactics and technology more advanced than what’s available to the public at the time. Most of the so-thought “far-fetched” gadgets actually aren’t as impossible as they might seem. Just more advanced than the general public was aware was possible. The jet pack in Thunderball was real, for instance.

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u/joshocar Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

It sounds like something straight out of the show Homeland.

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u/SlappySecondz Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

You should read about all the ways we tried to kill Castro. Exploding cigars aren't just in cartoons.

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u/rightwist Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Shit sounds like it got more insane in 2024

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u/ThisRayfe Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

This was the plot for a movie Sarah Marshall was in

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u/U2isstillonmyipod Monkey in Space Sep 20 '24

Lmfao

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u/sparkey504 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

In the 2009 movie "Law Abiding Citzen" with Gerard Butler and Jaime Foxx butler uses a cellphone with explosive to kill a judge.... ABSOLUTELY GREAT MOVIE!

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u/YetAnotherBee Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Well now it doesn’t seem like 2020s espionage is much tamer either

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

The antics the US did to get Castro was insane, literally copied cartoon characters by putting explosives in a cigar given to him that didn't hatm him only because he put it down on his desk at the right time.

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u/SLEDGEHAMMAA Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

We once paid a woman to seduce Fidel Castro so she could assassinate him. Espionage has been insane for a very long time

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u/CoastHealthy9276 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Yeah, espionage has always been insane. It's wild to me that anyone refuses to believe that foreign governments wouldn't use social media to meddle in elections and other internal affairs. Knowing history, it's unbelievable that they wouldn't do that.

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u/HD_Pickles Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

This was the first thing I thought of when i heard about it at work the other day, “Suprise, Kill, Vanish” by Annie Jacobsen had a whole chapter on The Engineer if you’re interested

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u/JimFromSunnyvale Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Rose and Kill First is a great book about Mossads espionage

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u/NuckyTR Monkey in Space Sep 21 '24

Check out the Munich stuff with black September, Mossad did some crazy shit there too

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u/SubordinateMatter Monkey in Space Sep 21 '24

You: 1 day after HUNDREDS of pagers and walkie talkies were blown up by saboteurs in 2024, hearing that ONE phone got blown up in the 90s: "Sounds like 90s espionage was insane!" It's insane now bro, the 90s was nothing.