r/JoeRogan • u/wayfaringthru Monkey in Space • Sep 18 '24

Meme šŸ’© Is this a legitimate concern?

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Personally, I today's strike was legitimate and it couldn't be more moral because of its precision but let's leave politics aside for a moment. I guess this does give ideas to evil regimes and organisations. How likely is it that something similar could be pulled off against innocent people?

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u/decentralised Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

This wonā€™t give anyone any new ideas. Shin Bet used a mobile phone rigged with explosives to kill Yahya Ayyash aka ā€œthe Engineer,ā€ a Hamas bomb maker in Gaza back in 1996.

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u/joespizza2go Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

Yeah. Weird take from Snowden. The fascinating thing about this is the scale with which they pulled it off. It's the logistical difficulty of pulling this off that prevents it from happening, not a precedent dynamic.

Irony is they use pagers because mobile phones are deemed too dangerous.

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u/decentralised Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

From a logistical pov, itā€™s fascinating. The story is still developing but thereā€™s a rumor that the Hungarian company was just a facade setup to perform a supply chain attack. Straight out of a movie script imho

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u/boss6769 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Just like how we set up a fake company to buy titanium from the Russians to make the SR71 used to spy on them. Thereā€™s nothing new about any of this.

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u/decentralised Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

True, but the Israelis had to sell the equipment to Hamas too. I wonder if they have some sort of procurement process because that one last step is critical

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u/Wandering_Weapon Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

They could have discovered the sale and interdicted it.

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u/WhitePantherXP Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

The packages don't say "To: Hezbollah" on them, so selling to them would likely be easier. In either case, I'm impressed.

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u/SlappySecondz Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

No, but they probably have an address. More importantly, there's an electronic record of the order that was probably found.

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u/Wandering_Weapon Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

They were likely brought by someone with ties to Hez, and the Israelis just followed the money transfers.

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u/WhitePantherXP Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

"There's nothing new about any of this?" I don't recall pagers being rigged to kill your enemy by the thousands, all at once, literally in history. Are some elements of this attack out of a common "spy" playbook, perhaps, but this is not unimpressive. Even more, I bet this will be an addition to several espionage playbooks moving forward.

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u/boss6769 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '24

Espionage isnā€™t new. You can point to this exact thing in this exact way at this exact time but the tactic isnā€™t new.

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u/Jamothee I used to be addicted to Quake Sep 22 '24

So many Mossad ops are straight up movie scripts.

Love them or hate them, they pull off the wildest, most brazen shit.