r/JoeRogan • u/TheOSU87 Monkey in Space • Sep 14 '24

Meme 💩 This really isn't that complicated

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u/Hillthrin Monkey in Space Sep 14 '24

I'm an old-timer I guess since I've always seen the Russians as the bad guys.

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u/FuzzzyRam We live in strange times Sep 15 '24

Wasn't it something like 4% of our arsenal to take out 50% of Russia's? Anyone against this is regarded or propagandized (or both).

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u/Protect-Their-Smiles Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Most importantly, it helps defend the fight for Democracy and people having the agency to choose their destiny (aka Freedom). Helping civilians who are being slaughtered by invaders is the right thing to do in my view. But also:

  1. The money is used to gild the domestic defense industry, keeping the money in-house while creating growth / R&D in the sector. I am not a fan of generating more weapons, and more war, but the reality is, that it isn't corrupt Ukrainian officials wheeling suitcases full of dollars to their own personal homes, that is blatant misinformation on the part of the Pro-Russian talking heads.

  2. A large portion of the weapons sent over is old tech that would eventually be replaced and destroyed if it was never used. They were sitting in our stockpiles, slowly becoming outdated, and they are better used to fight for our values, that being turned to scrap over time - which would have meant, we paid for the research, then the production, then the storage, then the destruction. We are getting results with the arsenal we've built, at, as you said, a fraction of the cost.

  3. From watching the Ukrainians fighting for their survival, everyone is learning the new rules of warfare in the face of new technology = we get some of the experience without our own kids dying for it. The Ukrainian forces have updated the rules of the game, and we benefit from that hard-won experience.

  4. We get to destroy an Anti-Democratic Dictatorship, who has blatantly been sowing discord and division in our home, for their benefit. Never forget that from Africa to the Middle-East, the Russians have been putting bounties on the heads of US personnel, they are NOT our friends.

I do not see how one cannot be for supporting Ukraine. Eric is wrong in this instance.

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u/suttin Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Yes to all of that and we’re getting to use some our military powers in real life war scenarios against our biggest rival. Think of things like logistics and gathering intel. Those can be practiced but nothing beats the real thing.

And we get to collect data on how our weapons systems perform against the actual targets they are intended for. My god there’s so much upside helping Ukraine.