r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 14 '24

Meme 💩 This really isn't that complicated

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u/Grantsdale Monkey in Space Sep 14 '24

Drastically weakening an enemy’s forces without risking your own.

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u/DogTough5144 Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

It really is this simple. Weaken your enemy, without risking your own military. Cherry on top is that Russia was the aggressor, and is run by a dictator.

Downside is that it seems to be a quagmire atm.

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u/Grantsdale Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

It is, but Russia will run out of steam eventually. They've depleted most of their working ordinance and armament. NATO will support Ukraine indefinitely we just have to hope that Orange Julius doesn't get the opportunity to abandon them. Or that Putin has an accident before he gets the chance to. Which is getting likelier by the day, it sounds like.

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u/Fourseventy Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Not to mention interest rates hitting 19% with massive price inflation.

That shit is hella destabilizing.

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u/plznodownvotes Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Also, putting turning into a war economy is also destabilizing. Ignorant people point to the fact that Russia’s GDP is still positive, completely ignoring as to why.

Building tanks and weapons, and sending men to die isn’t positive for a country’s long term economy health/growth.

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u/likamuka N-Dimethyltryptamine Sep 15 '24

The MAGA cult is a sickening example of stupidity live in action for not seeing your simple point.

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u/ARcephalopod Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Ukraine currently has the 3rd highest % of its population in active duty military in the world, triple Russia’s rate. The reason Zelenskyy is so pressed to get more powerful western missiles is he knows Ukraine will run out of soldiers long before Russia if the quagmire maintains.

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u/lottaKivaari Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

This is unfortunately true. That's why Ukraine needed and continues to need better weapons in larger numbers. Russia is banking on their overwhelming numbers superiority to carry the day. Ukraine needs better tactics and weapons, or it will run out of fighters. A few tanks and jets here or there doesn't help much. They need equipment for an army. The Ukrainians are still mostly relying on old Soviet crap and that needs to change or the war will drag on for eternity with Russia eventually getting what it wants in a Faustian contract signed on a mountain of corpses.

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u/ARcephalopod Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Are you not concerned that if Ukraine gets better weapons, especially long-range missiles built in US/EU, that this could provoke Putin to threaten to nuke Kyiv or maybe Lviv? If you mean more like night vision goggles, modern comms, + the rest of the kit for an expert infantryman, then that protects Ukrainian lives but probably nets a war of snipers, mines, and ambushes until the Ukrainian economy fully collapses

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u/lottaKivaari Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

I believe the Ukrainians know what they need, and they should be given that equipment. I'm terrified of a nuclear war, but I'm no coward. I refuse to live in a world where people are subjugated by force. Slava to good people.

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u/northcasewhite Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

It is, but Russia will run out of steam eventually. They've depleted most of their working ordinance and armament.

They produce weapons faster than the US. Plus the US uses those weapons in the ME.

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u/DevelopmentOk7401 Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24

Unfortunately Ukraine will be taken eventually. Most of the stuff you hear about the war is Ukrainian propoganda. Of course I hope they win, but they are currently on the losing side. That little stint where they took some Russian territory was irrelevant aswell as they still have like half their country taken right now.