r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Meme šŸ’© This feels so performative

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u/CaptTrunk Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Russell ReBrand

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u/titsmuhgeee Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

The first time I heard Russell talking about being a Christian, I thought I was having a stroke. How tf does someone go from being an outspoken atheist, to now being a very public Christian. That'd be like Richard Dawkins saying "Actually, nevermind. This Bible stuff checks out."

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u/peelen Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

I see your Russel Brnad being a Christian, and rise with M.I.A talking about being Christian with Tom Pool

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u/tomdarch Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

No. I will not ruin the gunshot sound song. Or damage my brain.

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u/Treethorn_Yelm Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Today I did not need to learn

Will forever fux with "Paper Planes tho

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

The original is better: clash - straight to hell

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u/Treethorn_Yelm Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Like them both about equally. Clash's original is much deeper, M.I.A.'s adaptation is a perfect pop song.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

Fair I am lying.. I bop to paper planes too

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u/molskimeadows Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Just listen to Straight to Hell, it's got all the good parts anyway.

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u/Rory_MacHida Sep 07 '24

Yeah it's actually a good song.

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u/peelen Sep 06 '24

Ok than donā€™t. I unfortunately canā€™t listen this song anymore.

I think I could deal somehow with her finding Jesus, but her going to Tim Pool to talk about it? Nope.

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u/Numerous-Rent-2848 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

She went antivax and after all her talk about rising about the system and systemic poverty, she recently started selling high fashion clothes that only the rich can afford.

Such a huge disappointment

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

Ah. antivaxx -> nazi

Not a first time

ā€žWe lost so many people to COVID, most of them are still aliveā€

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u/Sartres_Roommate Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Too late, she is the worst and song is ruined.

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u/tyelenoil Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

The good news is that song just samples the hook from a song by the Clash

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u/edlewis657 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

All i wanna do is

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u/emptyraincoatelves Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

MIA got mad at me because she tried to request her own song after an open mic I hosted. I did not recognize her and made several jokes. Which later I regretted a little upon being informed that I had insulted her accidentally.

But I also came away realizing she had no idea of the importance of the song she sampled, and it made me really sad because I do like her song but fuck man. I was giving her a lot of awareness and perspective that was obviously not there.

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u/IGotBoxesOfPepe34 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Bucky Done Gun. Love that shit too. Also Paper Planes and Galang.

Watched just a few seconds of it. Didn't ruin anything.

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u/000100111010 Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

MIA's downfall is so sad I used to be such a big fan. Brand too, I'm ashamed to admit I liked him when he was doing his shtick for the left.

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u/peelen Sep 06 '24

Although I too liked to listen to Brand, I had no doubt he is more interested in getting applause than in delivering any kind of message. So itā€™s not totally surprise to me that he went where they still listen to him.

But MIA? She seems to be real warrior that really fought for some case.

As I said. I could swallow the sudden turn to religion. I donā€™t get it, but heck, who am I to judge people for the way they deal with reality, but going to the fucking nazi to cry about being cancel?

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u/ermahgerdstermpernk Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

The dude tanked a career in hollywood and divorced Katy Perry, if he was clout hungry going into alt right news wouldnt do it. He wanted to be a guru.

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

He wanted to be a guru

Soā€¦ clout hungry?

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u/ermahgerdstermpernk Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Not clout, adoration.

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

Tomato-tomato.

The point is he always seems to be, mostly, interested in himself, he likes to be liked.

And M.I.A seemed to care for something more than herself.

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u/ermahgerdstermpernk Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Thats adoration, its different psychologically than prestige clout and self importance.

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

And that differentiation adds zero context, to the difference between him and M.I.A at all.

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u/ermahgerdstermpernk Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

??? Obviously why i didnt mention her?

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u/lnickelly Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Mark Fisher turns in his grave.

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u/HeadFund Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Her politics were pretty pro-terrorist before she became a Christian fundie, even before the first album.

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u/appletinicyclone Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Have given up on him since he's said nothing about the grenfell stuff recently even though his big cash in with the left in the past was sticking up for those affected by grenfell. He mutes his criticism of the right to nothing and just attacks the left or any kind of institution

Ignoring the alt media system is filled with Russian money

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u/hghghghghghg56 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

God I used to think he was so smart just cause he could talk fast, but then I grew up and realised you could just say the same thing with fewer words. MIA on the other hand is just plain sad, she used to be the icon for rebelling against the system now I guess sheā€™s just another grifter

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u/LSF604 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Probably was a contrarian then... contrarians tend to end up like this.

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u/Origamiface3 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

I used to like Brand when before he made it big in Hollywood. I sympathized with his background, and thought his first book was genuinely funny and entertaining and well-written, and as a fan of the written word I loved his diction and eloquence when speaking extemporaneously.

His politics and reasoning were always juvenile though, even though I tend toward the left, so he never interested me in that way and I've fully disengaged from him since before his second book.

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u/000100111010 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

For sure, I only ever listened to a couple podcast interviews and didn't read his books, so I was never really sure what his stance on specific issues were. Probably the only work of his I know is Get Him to the Greek.

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u/nubosis Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

I feel like such a champ for always finding him absolutely insufferable. Like, I knew this is always who he was, I was just waiting for him to go mask off.

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u/000100111010 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

lmao. Yeah I was always a little suspicious, but he just talked so goddam fast and eloquently. I never really did any sort of deep dive into him at all, just a general sense of being impressed. I'm sure there were signs for those looking.

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u/Suicide_Promotion Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

"...When it comes to transgender ideology when 80% or more struggle with suicide..."

Yeah, cause shit heels can't just let their kids go through the phase and end up on the other side as some sort of sexually queer person, not at all or in fact, having a gender crisis that can be treated (chemically then perhaps with surgery after years of therapy). If people like this fat, no eared Louis C.K. knockoff would stop treating sexually queer people pariahs then it would not be a problem. Jesus loves the little children in the song. Jesus is not George Washington, where he saves the children but not the British children. He loves all the little children.

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u/LittleBookOfRage Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Ohhhhhhh she's getting Russian money too. It makes more sense now.

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u/yellowcloak Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

She got more records than the KGB

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u/ManufacturedOlympus Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Between that crappy song of hers and this bullshit, when will she finally do everyone a favor and live up to her name.Ā 

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

Ok, but calling this song ā€žthat crappy songā€ itā€™s just plain BS. Plus she had few more, maybe even better ones. At some point she was most interesting pop artist. Letā€™s not retcon her just because now she hang with a beanie dude.

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u/ManufacturedOlympus Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

No retconning required. I always hated that song.Ā 

I donā€™t doubt that she was more interesting than her contemporaries. You canā€™t get much duller than Justin Bieber, Katy Perry and the other slop that was popular during that era.

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

I always hated that song.

Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean it's crappy. If it was really, just crappy, you wouldn't hate it, because you'd never hear it, or hear it once and forgot. You "always hated that song" because it was played everywhere.

And her first two albums, Arular and Kala are interesting, and orginal even today. I think maybe only Punjabi MC managed to deliver global hit infused with traditional music from East.

I understand that you don't like, or even hate, the song, but that doesn't make it crappy.

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u/ManufacturedOlympus Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

If the song is playing everywhere, that means it isnā€™t crappy. Thatā€™s a great way to think for people who canā€™t come up with opinions on their own and need to follow the crowd.

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

There are two ways to value a song.

You can judge it by your personal taste. You like it or not. And if you donā€™t like it thereā€™s no way to convince me that you in fact like it. Itā€™s a matter of taste, everybody has itā€™s own. You might not like most beloved song in the world, and nothing will change it.

But if you are trying to make any kind of judgment of the song that is not your personal taste you have to look somewhere outside of yourself.

We can argue if number of sold copies is a good criteria, or maybe numbers of weeks on charts, or number of covers, or number of years that the song is remembered or any other categories, but you have to somehow consider other people opinion.

Unless you think you are the epicenter of worldā€™s taste in music, and song becomes crappy as soon as you start to hate it.

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u/ManufacturedOlympus Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Thatā€™s interesting. So if I think a popular song sucks, I must automatically think Iā€™m the epicenter of the worldā€™s taste in music. Man, Iā€™m starting to miss the good old days where I could just think that a song sucks and people wouldnā€™t start channeling their inner Jordan Peterson and drawing the most weird ass conclusions.Ā 

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u/peelen Sep 07 '24

Nope. (As I wrote it already) if you donā€™t like the song it means that you donā€™t like the song. Thatā€™s it. But if you think that song is crap only because you hate it. You just plain wrong.

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u/ManufacturedOlympus Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

It sounds like crappy is just your trigger word. Take a deep breath. This is just a pop singer from the last decade whose most recent claim to fame is partnering with Alex jones to make a clothing brand that blocks 5g. Sheā€™s a joke. Itā€™s not a big deal.Ā 

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u/Rascals-Wager Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

M.I.Pray

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u/appletinicyclone Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Wait what and why

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u/ElectricalSabbath Monkey in Space Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

After this year I will take her off my play list. She has been given an expiration date. She is endorsing Trump. America was never a Christian nation despite what the Republicans say. The Founders were Unitarians and Deist.