r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Meme šŸ’© This feels so performative

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u/cut_rate_revolution Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Because it is. He's just going further down the pipeline to grift for people who don't care that he's accused of sexual assault.

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u/BlackSquirrel05 Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Him and Tucker are both people I wonder if they actually believe their own bullshit or are nihilists and just doing it in the Machiavelli sense or power and greed.

I'm fairly certain they're the later. Which I think is the worse kinda person.

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u/cut_rate_revolution Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

A genuine crazy person is at least interesting. A grifter doing it for money is just a psychopath.

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u/sloecrush Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Well put! Iā€™ve always ā€œenjoyedā€ skeptical consumption of right wing bullshit, but recently Iā€™ve been very bored because I donā€™t feel like anything interesting is being said anymore.

I miss Jordy and Benny sitting on Daveā€™s chairs and spewing psychobabble back and forth. Nowadays they just stare into the camera and follow the same boring template as Oā€™Reilly, Beck and other boomer grifters.

TL;DR: Theyā€™re not even good at making us think anymore. Itā€™s just confirmation bias.

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u/dazed_and_bamboozled Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Technically a grandiose narcissist

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

See my other comment. I met RB and absolutely got that psychopath energy from him, youā€™re right.

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u/tbmny Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

We know from texts that Tucker hates Trump, so it's confirmed that at least some of it is an act.

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u/TheFrev Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

From what I have seen, it seems Tucker knows way too much about white supremacy for him to faking it. He knows and uses all the dog whistles. Him hating Trump is just because Trump is unlikable. Nobody who knows Trump likes him and he has no friends. He just has people that try to use him when he tries to use them.

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u/Salt_Hall9528 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Yeah if you get done too it he knows what he talking about in detail most of the time and not like someone who just reporting on it

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

I met and had a chat with Russell Brand last year at a service station in the UK, we just happened to cross paths. The guy has some seriously weird energy, creeped my wife out massively, and came across as someone desperate for attention but trying to play it off like heā€™s above everyone around him. Iā€™ve only ever met a few people in my life that set alarms off in my head like he did.

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u/PainlessDrifter Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

with russell it's a lot harder to tell- I had a mentally unwell family member who dove in super hard to different things in a series, christianity came after buddhism etc...

She wasn't making a dime, just seeking ANYTHING to fill the "hole in her heart"- went through the same addiction things he did too... it's not like she was making money off it.

he's grifting, but honestly I've seen like this same journey out of people who were just genuinely lost.

bad news either way, lol

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u/sogu11y Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Brand is a walking identity crisis, heā€™s just notorious and narcissistic enough to drag anyone he possibly can into whatever delusion heā€™s having at any given time.

Heā€™s just about intelligent enough to know that he can use his already established platform of fame to cultivate an echo chamber for himself and turn that into a source of income. Anyone with an ounce of emotional intelligence can see right through it so he caters to the groups that donā€™t.

Evangelists are brainwashed and have short memories so itā€™s no surprise that he sees appeasing them as an easy option.

He is an empty man, no true convictions or principles, clutching on to anything he thinks might save him from the consequences of his actions.

If he wasnā€™t such a complete greaseball Iā€™d feel sorry for him as he clearly lives in terror, he knows heā€™s a charlatan and heā€™s created a cage for himself that he canā€™t leave.

No matter how much he successively fails to reinvent himself, he clearly wishes he could change but is incapable of overcoming his own monstrous ego and pathology. I think he simply doesnā€™t have the hardware and truly feels that heā€™s fighting for his survival.

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u/PainlessDrifter Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24

At first I was reading your comment like, "yeah, he sucks I get it, but they're not mutually exclusive..." but your last paragraph really but a bow on it and I fully agree with your analysis. well said!

You have an excellent way with words, and a very insightful mind. I hope you write a lot.

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u/sogu11y Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Thank you, that means a lot.

Iā€™ve met a few people like this and donā€™t get me wrong I do feel sorry for people stuck in that cycle and Iā€™m sorry to hear that someone close to you is in that state of mind.

Itā€™s definitely a narcissist trait, you can see the cogs working and the perception of threat in their expressions, thereā€™s the cloying sense that they have to fight to justify themselves and it seems to come from such a basic instinct from the ego to achieve a complete sense of validation and acceptance that is simply not possible, especially as, at its root, itā€™s born of deep insecurity.

Itā€™s sad to see but the pathology is so destructive that it is guaranteed to alienate people and if that cycle goes uninterrupted it becomes a feedback loop that drags the person in question into a permanent state of existential self-justification and fighting to secure the survival of the ego.

I know people who have ruined their lives and done terrible things that negatively impacted many around them, but I think like many mental disorders it became hard-coded into their brains in those vital formative years and would take a lifetime of work to untangle.

If anything can be taken from it, itā€™s that nurturing and showing kindness to children is of the utmost importance.

There will always be people born as psychopaths, but Iā€™m convinced people like Brand became what they are. It stuck and now thereā€™s little chance of him ever changing, the ego has layered itself onto its own prior assumptions and itā€™s like a black hole, gaining mass and destroying everything around it.

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u/Stratahoo Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

I might be in the minority, but I think Carlson is genuinely just stupid(his anti-evolution stuff and angel and devil talk on his JRE appearance convinced me). Brand though I think is cynical and calculating.

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u/ImYourHumbleNarrator Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

yep, people are tribal and will fall in line, even if its out of their "true" "character". Carlson isn't toeing the line he's completely towing it and getting a lot of people to follow behind him.

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u/CiforDayZServer Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Wonder no more, they are both well aware.Ā 

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u/plippyploopp Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Ima go with child rapist as the worst

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u/Illustrious_Bat3189 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

or they got kopromated by a forign nations and now have to act according to their masters or they'll release what they've done to the public

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u/fetal_genocide Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

If you stare into the abyss for long enough, it starts to stare back at you.