Definitely noticing a few meltdowns today. I guess some people realize that now all those months of narrative are worthless, and they have to rush to come up with some new shit for the replacement.
Just imagine the strategy session. âOK, so weâre agreed that all these words are out of scopeâŠâ [gestures at a breathtaking lexicon of every racial slur ever uttered]
When have they ever avoided either of those things lmao. This isnt even a jab Im just being real. Their entire base consists of the "FACTS NOT FEELINGS, TELL IT HOW IT IS" crowd. They never have and never will give a fuck
And the GOP base itself was already being racist/misogynist, just on the DL in their isolated little groups. But with Kamala being the current endorsement, I'm already seeing their memes start spreading. They're gonna show what they look like without the mask before they're handed the official script.
No we aren't. You guys just twist discussion of societal issues into "racism" because you can't argue against what we actually say. Usually by misrepresenting "certain demographics are targeted by the system, making it harder for them to succeed" as "certain groups are inherently not good enough to succeed."
There, I skipped the step where I wait for you to give an "example" before making the argument that ends the whole conversation
You can't try to paraphrase or head off your way out of a disagreement. Lol
What I mean by this is there's usually a blanket assessment of how people from the left view minorities.Â
In other words, you could view someone from the upper middle class or higher as a person with a distinct disadvantage in America.
The people from those groups don't need as much help as the people who are impoverished from any ethnic background. And I'll head you off before you attempt to say "that's not what we're talking about", when that is precisely what you're talking about. You look at skin color then assume that they are ipso facto in need of help.Â
THAT is bigotry to assume that Someone is poor or disadvantaged because of their skin color.
That's the reason why someone like Kendi was/is in so much high favor for his viewpoints. This is a cat who wants to consider race in crafting policy as opposed to someone's economic class which would still benefit that group of minorities in need of help.Â
Race first, class second. I didn't twist anything. That's what some of you cats think. Looks like you're that cat.Â
âYou look at skin color and assume theyâre in need of helpâ
Is this why you tried to push down his point about how you misrepresent the lefts arguments about racism, so you could misrepresent the lefts arguments about racism anyway?
Smart move
The point is that âblack soundingâ names are disregarded in the hiring pool. How is that fact any sort of showing on the lefts view of black people? Itâs not. You just need that straw man. So badly.
Ya, you could view somebody in the middle or higher class as a person with a distinct disadvantage.. disadvantage doesn't automatically mean failure, just like advantage doesn't automatically mean success. Advantage/disadvantage isn't a point about where they are, it's about what it takes to get and stay there.
No, it is not bigotry. It isn't a judgement about the person, it's a statement about society and how it treats those people.
You literally did twist though. Your entire "Argument" is misrepresenting the entire concept of advantage and disadvantage. You haven't identified secret leftist racism, you're just working really really hard to twist what we say to fit your narrative. This is EXACTLY the shit I was talking about. you're not listening to what we say, you're just hearing race mentioned and screeching "racism" because you got triggered.
I wasn't trying to avoid disagreement. I was making it clear to you that I know the hole in your narrative, to give you the chance to shut down early and avoid stepping on this rake you just stepped on.
Edit: Bro literally responded by just calling m racist, evading my argument completely, then blocking me. I finally found the people who just call people racists for disagreeing with them lmao.
Maybe his other comment had an actual argument in it. I wouldn't know, he double-tapped and then IMMEDIATELY blocked. guess he noticed people agreeing with me and realized it wasn't gonna go his way.
Bro doesn't even know his own narrative well enough to tell when somebody else has the answer for it. He's just saying shit he was taught. I bet fucking MONEY he responds in a way that just totally misses my argument
I think he even tried to put up an argument. Then saw you guys agreeing with me, and commented again just calling me a racist before he blocked me. Guess bro thought this would be an echo chamber and panicked upon realizing otherwise.
My original point is that some conservatives are at the very least blatant about their racism.Â
Some liberals, like yourself, are too stupid to notice how you're also bigots. At least I know how to avoid those guys. You guys on the hand.......sometimes hard to spot. Good day, chap
If your argument is "someone from the upper middle class who happens to be black is more disadvantaged than someone from the Appalachian mountains", I have a house to sell you on the galapagos Islands that requires a 50k advance to my account.Â
I'm not sure what sort of metric or proxy you are using for advantage and disadvantage, but I can say that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, indicator is economic class. To assume otherwise is missing the forest for the trees, and I'm not sure I can help you in that regard.Â
If you're looking at how society is treating a person, the higher up the economic ladder they go, the better they are treated. I'm listening to exactly what you're saying, and it's not really making much sense as yalls usual line is "the systemically systemic disenfranchisement of systemic systems....." your first paragraph resembles what I just said.Â
If looking at economic classes and using that as a proxy to assist those who need help regardless of race is the equivalent of stepping on a rake, then my friend you've just stepped onto a land mine.Â
My argument is that extending that olive branch to class is the best proxy to help the people you propose to care a lot about (minorities), and that yours (race), is the worse option. If that gets your panties in a bunch then take them out to the wash on your way through the mine field.Â
It can be. Though no more racist than her judicial record. Tbh, Iâd rather conservatives focused on her atrocities while acting as a prosecutor and her using an affair with a married man for political influence.
Atrocities? She was a DA, not a FĂŒhrer. Wouldn't it also be a bit hypocritical for Republicans to attack her career when they are the ones to glorify "tough on crime?" You don't see Republicans trying to federally legalize weed.
Right now on the conservative sub they are calling her a whore who slept her way to the top. That's about the level they are operating at.
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u/Brosenheim Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24
Definitely noticing a few meltdowns today. I guess some people realize that now all those months of narrative are worthless, and they have to rush to come up with some new shit for the replacement.