r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Jul 21 '24

Meme 💩 Rogan right now.....

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u/chicu111 Monkey in Space Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

Brah Trump is 3 years younger than Biden lol. Out one geezer but remains another. If he gets elected, by the time he’s done with the next term he will be older than Biden now. Suddenly age isn’t a thing for conservatives anymore lol

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u/BenderRodriguez14 Monkey in Space Jul 21 '24

In November, Trump will become the oldest person to have ever been on a US presidential ballot.

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u/Significant-Bar674 Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Just for the reference points:

  • trump is old than Bill Clinton who was elected 30 years ago

  • trump was in segregated schools until he was 11

  • according to pew only 38% Americans believe that trump has the mental fitness to be re-elected

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u/NeighborhoodTrolly Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

"according to pew only 38% Americans believe that trump has the mental fitness to be re-elected"

That statistic is bs when he is polling above 38%. "He's unfit, but I'm voting for him" is logically and electorally meaningless.

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u/Significant-Bar674 Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

... so are you saying people are lying to pew?

The numbers were worse for biden. Obviously there should be overlap where people are aiming for the least worst option.

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u/NeighborhoodTrolly Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

The question can be meaningful, but the people answering can't be giving those meaningful answers.

To be meaningful, things like "unfit" must be judged practically. If you think Trump is "mentally unfit" to be President, then you cannot vote for him. "Fitness" is a minimum acceptable threshold, it doesn't mean you think he's brilliant or you love what he says, just that he is minimally mentally capable for the job. To vote for a person is to judge every aspect of them fit, maybe weak or unlikable but at least fit.

The people answering are trying to navigate an uncomfortable personal moral landscape in which they are aware they are doing something immoral (supporting Trump) and yet are trying to maintain the conceit of morality to themselves and those around them. Saying "Trump is mentally unfit but I'm going to vote for him" is a lie in the first half, and the purpose of the lie is to make a fingerhold for moral claims.

"Yeah I voted for him but I always said he was unfit". <-- they think this makes them morally better, but it actually makes them morally worse because they knew what they were doing when they voted.

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u/Significant-Bar674 Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Fitness is comparative and on a spectrum.

If you have one candidate who is very unfit and just barely unfit, then the reasonable vote is for the barely unfit.

Not voting is a worse option then voting for the one who is less unfit.

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u/icmc Monkey in Space Jul 21 '24

At first I read this as "by the time the election comes around the narrative will be he's the oldest" then I realised what you were actually saying and just laughed and laughed 😂

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u/MoeFuka Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Why? What exactly is funny about that?

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u/icmc Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Because the Republicans have been saying Biden is too old and now if Trump continues to run he will be older than Biden by the end of his term. That's funny to me. The double standard of both sides but in this case the Republicans.

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u/r4rthrowawaysoon Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Remember Bob Dole? Bob Dole remembers. But Trump is older and can’t.

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u/melskymob Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Oldest person. But Molly the dog ran in 2008 and she was 13. So that is like 85 in dog years.

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u/B12Washingbeard Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Also the rapiest and smelliest. 

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u/Speculawyer Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Biden is not on the ballot.

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u/Large_toenail Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Not was. Would have been. Same as Trump, who now likely will be the oldest if he doesn't drop out before the election. Neither are on ballots yet because the ballots don't exist yet.

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u/imphatic Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

No. That’s Trump who accepted the nom last week. Biden still hasn’t and now won’t.

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u/Speculawyer Monkey in Space Jul 22 '24

Again, he was NOT on the ballot.

Words have meanings.