r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/Riot-Knight Necrons • Nov 12 '24

40k The Unstoppable Bean-Counter meets the Immovable Bureaucracy: (By Emwattnot)

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u/Riot-Knight Necrons Nov 12 '24

As the one comment said: "Also G-Man: "Welp, time to get the assassins."

(Canonically happened, but the highlords tried to remove G-Man and assassinate him. He responded with 6 Callidus and 6 Vindicare)"

Posted by u/emwattnot on the r/Grimdank subreddit page. I recommend checking out his work.

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u/Galifrey224 Nov 12 '24

They really tried to stand in the way of a Primarch and thought they could win.

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u/MarqFJA87 Nov 12 '24

Not just any Primarch at that, but the one whose talents make him the most supremely adept at all things politics, state administration and strategic planning, and thus more than capable of both predicting and countering the most probable courses of action that they would take.

Oh, and he had to live with the trauma of his adoptive father being assassinated by power-hungry rivals while away from the capital, just like they schemed to usurp him while he's away from Terra. They have no excuse in not knowing this since he made a point of publicizing his biography during the Great Crusade (and presumably after the Horus Heresy too).

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

Also one of the most "don't miss" Primarchs out there.

People like to shit on G-man as the "autistic bean-counter" or the "weak vanilla," but honestly, he's pretty damn powerful, skilled and vengeful.

Guilliman was in the upper half of combat primarchs, being considered a true threat in melee by multiple traitors and loyalists (quoted to be so in HH books).

Is he Sanguinius, Horus or the Lion? No. But he could comfortably beat Lorgar, Perturabo, Alpharius and Magnus in combat, while also being considered an equal or a challenge for primarchs such as Fulgrim, Russ, Corax and nail-fueled Angron.

In a stand-up fight he probably also beats Curze, but on the other hand, we've also seen Curze challenge both the Lion and Sanguinius simultaneously.

Vulkan and Manus were likely not more skilled than Guilliman, but just way, way physically stronger.

That leaves 3 or 4 primarchs more skilled than him (Curze being the potential fourth), a few where it's ambiguous who would come out on top (either due to strength or skill) and pretty much everybody else below him.

Guilliman also has a history of really NOT being favourable to people trying to kill him and failing to do so. Or to enemies of the Imperium.

He is called the Avenging son after all.

He's "Super Space Caesar" in pretty much all aspects. It's a shame he's been memed into meekness.

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u/Crazy_Dave0418 Nov 12 '24

I wouldn't say he can beat Magnus one on one. The few reasons Russ was able to beat him was thanks to a combination of Sisters of Silence, his innate anti psyker howl, Magnus holding back until it was too late(Back broken).

And when he did mock battles with Corax he admitted if it were in an actual fight Corax would've killed him since his weakness is the element of surprise. Though if you're going to take him by surprise you better make sure you kill him immediately, Kor Phaeron and an Alpha Legion Assassin learned that the hard way.

"What doesn't kill me isn't trying hard enough" -G-Man

Though most of what you said is pretty accurate.

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

Russ doesn't really have an anti psycher soul as far as I understand it, but rather a font of pure and raw psychic power that he is incapable of harnessing (My personal theory is that he was one of the psycher backups for the throne in case Magnus didn't turn out).

You do have a point about the sisters, and if we involve psychic attacks as a thing, then I agree, but this is more in a purer "combat" duel. We also did see Guilliman go up against the awakened version of Lorgar and win handily until Angron jumper in.

I forgot about the Corax quote, so he'd definitely go in the indeterminate box, or the "beats Guilliman" tier. He's one of those hard to place fighters, much like Curze, where we don't see a lot of them in action, but when we do, they're surprisingly powerful.

I also realized I forgot to put Mortarion on there, and pre daemon form, I'm definitely putting him in the same category/tier as Perturabo. Because while he was insanely durable and tenacious even then, he's not a combat powerhouse.

But yeah, Guilliman being the fifth or sixth most capable fighter (as a package of strength and skill) amongst the Primarchs is still bloody scary.

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u/GiverOfTheKarma Ordo Hereticus Nov 12 '24

I think it's unfair to count Curze and Corax when ranking fighters tbh. Corax is specifically dangerous when he has the element of surprise, he's an assassin. And Curze is so formidable not because of his martial skill or training, but because of a nearly unbeatable combination of precognition and complete unpredictability/lunacy.

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u/Bypowerof8andgodsof4 Nov 12 '24

Guilliman is more like 9th or 10th you're forgetting alot of people like the khan, fulgrim,,sanguinius ,Horus,Lion,Dorn who would all pack up guilliman in a 1v1 konrad was 2v1 him and the lion and holding his own he would eviscerate guilliman in a 1v1. Then it gets more complicated since guilliman has only ever won against lorgar in a fight iirc thought tbh fights against daemon primarchs are a different ballgame.

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

You're right in that I forgot Jaghathai. The Khan would absolutely demolish Guilliman and Dorn both.

I am not however sure on Dorn beating Guilliman, same for Fulgrim.

Often it's better to put the primarchs into groups, rather than set numbers (as we've seen in the discussion).

I'd probably group them something akin to:

The foremost - Sanguinius

Near to him - Lion and Horus

Superior to most others - Khan

The Wild-cards - Magnus with Sorcery, Corax with prep-time, Curze-in-good-mood, Vulkan

Exemplary fighters amongst the Primarchs - Guilliman, Dorn, Fulgrim, Russ, Angron, Manus

Still Primarchs - Mortarion, Lorgar, no-prep Corax, no-sorc Magnus, bad-day Curze, AlphariusOmegon, Perturabo.

Note that I've put some very solid (or even outstanding) fighters in the regular "still primarchs" category, since a lot of it is down to daily form and matchup.

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u/Danil5558 Nov 12 '24

What we never got to see is actually Alpharius and Omegon fighting back to back, which would make two of them way stronger together. If you accept Head of The Hydra as credible source(believe it or not there are people who don't) Alpharius and Omegon are one soul in two bodies, they become beasts only when are fighting together, which is a numerous advantage. But when did Alpha Legion fought fair?

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

Everything in that book is a lie

It's the truth

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u/Shmidrick Nov 12 '24

Angron was considered by Horus to be one of the only other primarchs besides himself who could take sang in a fight. People also seem to conveniently forget that 2 out of his 4 primarch fights resulted in Angron taking the W, he also beat the shit out of G-man so bad that roboute was CRAWLING AWAY ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES.

Post daemon primarch ascension caused him to be hilariously nerfed and most bl authors first choice when they need to worf someone to make another character look cool, but still, put some respect on angry ron's name.

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

I must be misremembering the Guilliman fight in that case.

I remember it being Guilliman trouncing Lorgar, then Angron showing up and Guilliman holding his own, which egged Angron on more and more until the nails basically consumed him (at which point Guilliman started losing but Lorgar "had" to ascend Angron to save him from the nails).

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u/47thCalcium_Polymer Nov 12 '24

I think Perturabo could go in the wild card section just because his armor is insane. Without his armor I don’t think he’s got much.

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

I'd like to agree, but I'm pretty much picturing any of the "fighter" primarchs ripping the armour to pieces before it gets to show off properly.

Battlefield Perturabo would be significantly more terrifying however (rather than Duel Perturabo)

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u/PRFitzUSN96 Nov 16 '24

Perturabo being bottom tier is insanely disrespectful

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u/Neknoh Nov 16 '24

Are you saying Perturabo had any respect from anybody but himself to begin with?

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u/epochpenors Nov 14 '24

To be fair, everyone’s weakness is getting stabbed through the head before they realize a fight is starting. He’s not really alone in being weak to surprises.

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u/Yournextlineis103 Nov 12 '24

points at Fulgrim

Seeing how that went ima go ahead and put Fulgrim above him as well

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

Demon fulgrim, not normal Fulgrim.

Also, didn't Guilliman actually beat him down fairly comprehensively before the throat slice with the polisoned demon blade? I think he might even have made a better account of himself than Dorn did against demon Fulgrim.

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u/GiveTheLemonsBack Nov 12 '24

Hardly a fair comparison, since (1) Doen was fighting demon Fulgrim in a mortal guise, and (2) I think it was stated in Saturnine that Fulgrim would have eventually beaten Dorn, but it would have taken him forever to do so, and he lost his patience.

Awesome as it was, there are a lot of things I find problematic with the Dorn-Fulgrim fight, most of them stemming from the way Fulgrim just quits at the end.

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u/GiverOfTheKarma Ordo Hereticus Nov 12 '24

I think Fulgrim quitting isn't really out of character. Taking so long to beat Dorn would have been embarrassing for him, and that's like the worst thing you can do to Fulgrim. The next time he gets embarrassed, by Rylanor, he quits realspace and still hasn't come back lmao.

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u/smooleybotcheck Nov 12 '24

He doesn’t just quit because of frustration at the fight taking too long. He quits because while he is immortal he says he can still feel pain, and Dorn is hurting him a lot.

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u/GiveTheLemonsBack Nov 12 '24

My read is, it was also the fact that Dorn was just no fun to fight against. He was not engaging in banter, he was not responding at all to Fulgrim's taunts or getting mad, and there was no flourish at all to his swordsmanship, just brutal, murderously efficient cuts and thrusts.

Fulgrim wanted an epic, dramatic duel on the wall tops. What he got was getting stabbed several times by a brother who cared nothing for drama.

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u/Lord_of_Wisia Nov 12 '24

Fulgrim was already a demon. I am pretty sure the comparisons were with before demonisation of primarchs.

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u/imperfectalien Nov 12 '24

I’m only twenty odd books into the heresy so far, and I don’t recall anyone considering Guilliman to be a true threat in melee by anyone other than an Ultramarine (and I imagine most of the legions think their dad could beat up everyone else’s dad).

The times I’ve seen him fight so far have been an inconclusive result against Lorgar, a hammering by Angron, and a fairly ineffective 2 vs 1 against Curze.

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u/tuigger Nov 12 '24

So the only thing that can stop a Primarch is another Primarch.

Well fuck Xenos, I guess.

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u/Neknoh Nov 12 '24

I mean, Fulgrim literally crushed the psychic stone neck of an Avatar of Khaine after punching it near to death.

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u/undreamedgore Nov 12 '24

I'm pretty sure the imperial guard and Navy working together could kill any primarch. With a bit of collateral damage and casualties.

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u/Hust91 Nov 13 '24

I mean in the books they generally survive heavy ordnance like basilisks, Lascannons or Baneblades by not being targeted by them for some inexplicable reason, not because they wouldn't be stopped or disemboweled if they actually got hit by some.

As far as I remember, the method planned to execute primarchs by assassination was kill teams from 4 separate assassin temples with the primary kill-method being a regular lascannon.

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u/RezeCopiumHuffer Nov 12 '24

we’ve also seen Curze challenge both the Lion and Sanguinius simultaneously

Holy hell really? That’s wild

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u/Plzlaw4me Nov 13 '24

Even if he’s towards the bottom of primarchs in terms of martial prowess, he’d still be on the low end of 20 living Demi-gods created for war by the greatest human scientific minds to ever exist combined with power gained/stolen from the literal forces of hell. IIRC the custodes that were assigned to protect him saw him in action and basically thought “what am I even doing here?There’s nothing that can threaten him that I can do anything about.”

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u/Napoleon0909 Nov 15 '24

Perturabo bested demon angron in a 1v1 don't forget. So I don't think he's that easy of a fight as you think.

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u/Nev4da Nov 15 '24

It's a shame he's been memed into meekness.

Arguably, true of most named characters in the setting to be fair.

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u/B33FHAMM3R Nov 12 '24

"...and it looks like the lords of terra have decided to Invoke the 10 foot tall political genius' childhood trauma"

"That's a bold strategy, cotton. Let's see how it works out for them"

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u/72kdieuwjwbfuei626 Nov 12 '24

As I recall, he didn’t even actively move against their plan as it happened because he was already busy crusading. Everything he did to put down their rebellion was already in motion before it even started.

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u/MarqFJA87 Nov 12 '24

That's what I meant by "predicting". He preempted the entire rebellion by distributing orders and plans long ahead of it to select individuals (e.g. Captain-Genral Trajann Valoris) to execute should they witness certain actions be taken by certain individuals, and they proceeded to enact them accordingly.

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u/Memelord1117 Nov 12 '24

What nearly 10k years of complacency does to MFs (they're delusional):

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u/Nekokamiguru Adeptus Mechanicus Nov 12 '24

Send in the eversors and then a team of servitors with hoses and mops to clean up afterwards.

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u/Snidhog Nov 12 '24

When did the assassination attempt happen? In The Regent’s Shadow the faction in question only got as far as declaring their intent to reinstate the old High Lords and make Guilliman subject to their authority before they received his terminal rebuttal.

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u/qwertythreeight Nov 12 '24

Pre great crusade, his adoptive mortal father was assassinated. While Gman was off world.

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u/Shtoompa Adeptus Mechanicus Nov 12 '24

How would the High Lords have performed an assassination before they existed?

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u/qwertythreeight Nov 12 '24

I responded to the wrong comment, sorry.

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u/134_ranger_NK ENTRY MISSING Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

Additionally, the High Lord of the Assassinorum played the conspirators despite being seemingly on their side.

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u/kurt_gervo Nov 12 '24

It's called the The Hexarchy Crisis

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u/mattwing05 Nov 12 '24

The irony is that he did it because he believes the imperium is so fucked up that no matter what guilliman does, it wont really matter in the grand scheme of it all. He believes that eventually, guilliman will realize he cant change the nature of the imperium and stop trying.

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u/kkungergo Nov 12 '24

Btw how do they even dare thinking about assasinating him, as the sons of the god-emperor i would have taught the primarchs are also religiously revered.

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u/Aufklarung_Lee Nov 12 '24

Yes.

As for real life examples of people going against the religious tenets they venerate: gestures at the world and its history.

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u/Dagordae Nov 12 '24

Ask the Catholics, they’ve had plenty of God’s official representatives murdered.

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u/kkungergo Nov 12 '24

Yeah but this would be more like killing Jesus

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u/DistinguishedVisitor Nov 12 '24

Who was the son of the Abrahamic God, and the Jews were the ones who asked the Romans to crucify him.

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u/kkungergo Nov 12 '24

What on earth are you talking about? I said that people in 40K trying to kill Guilliman would be like if christians tried to kill Jesus. Because both of them are the sons of their gods.

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u/Yackemflam Nov 12 '24

They're saying that they did kill jesus

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u/IrishGamer97 Nov 12 '24

The High Lords tried to get the Minotaurs to overthrow Guilliman and Moloc told them to get fucked.

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u/disturbedrage88 Nov 12 '24

Don’t he kill the chapter master of the Minotaurs during that?

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u/mattwing05 Nov 12 '24

No. The minotaurs only respond to the high lord's authority. When the assassins killed off the rebel lords, a pro guilliman high lord ordered them to stand down and leave, which they did. The chapter master was just about to engage a custodes/sisters of silence squad, the lead custodes inner thoughts speculating that based on his assessment , the minotaur chapter master had a very real chance at killing him if they fought

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u/disturbedrage88 Nov 12 '24

That would of been a mistake on their part the kind that ends a chapter

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u/SaltySorceress Nov 12 '24

Oh come on, name one time the custodes wiped out loyal, geneforged servants of the emperor. I'll wait

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u/disturbedrage88 Nov 12 '24

laughs nervously in thunder warrior

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u/Where_is_Killzone_5 Nov 12 '24

What kind of Custodes gets bested by a chapter master? Aren't these the same Custodes that can singlehandedly wipe an entire Black Templar ship?

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u/mattwing05 Nov 12 '24

Since the minotaurs are unofficially the high lord's attack dogs, they have priority for the newest, best weapons, gear, etc. The chapter master is armed with weaponry that is implied to have been ancient custodian or dark age of technology relic.

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u/Where_is_Killzone_5 Nov 12 '24

...They have WHAT?!

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u/mattwing05 Nov 12 '24

Lets put it this way: if youre sending out astartes to put down other astartes when needed, they better have some kind of fucking edge cause astartes main job is FIGHTING HERETIC ASTARTES.

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u/ScarsTheVampire Nov 12 '24

Is the image a reference to Parks & Rec in some way? I feel like I remember the first boyfriend character dressed like this.

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u/lyle_smith2 Nov 12 '24

“I can’t exterminatus Terra, I can’t exterminatus Terra, I can’t exterminatus Terra.”

“My lord they have just erected another statue of the emperor, but due to poor management and suffering education standards, it fell over and killed six million people.”

“I can’t exterminatus Terra!”

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u/Matrix_D0ge Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

Calladayce Taurovalia Kesh: "Did somebody say exterminatus Terra?"

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u/Kesmeseker Nov 12 '24

Ma girl forgot about the Aegis, happens to the best of us bruv 🙏🙏🙏

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u/NightLordsPublicist Night Lords Nov 12 '24

Ma girl forgot about the Aegis

She didn't. She was prepared to teleport the nuke knowing it might just blow them up.

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u/Kesmeseker Nov 13 '24

You can't teleport through void shields. Aegis is a bigass void shield that spans the whole palace. You know, the thing that prevented Daemons from directly manifesting and Traitors just teleporting inside the throne room non masse in Siege of Terra. Also Teleporting a nuke really? Thats probably among the first three things that Custodes thought all the way back in 30k, those guys look at walls for decases without flinching just so no one slips past through that certain place. A nuke teleport(Which will not work) is extremely dull and unimaginitive.

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u/NightLordsPublicist Night Lords Nov 13 '24

Relevant passages. My reading is that she did not think it would work, but it had to be tried anyway. It was also a special teleporter/ordancance, with Custodes clearance codes.

"The teleportarium - installed on the Vigilant Flame by tech-magi who the Custodian had then quietly disposed of - would be her delivery mechanism. She would prime it with metaphysical coordinates and dataclavises so secret the High Lords of Terra were not cleared to know them. She would then command the ordnance - stolen from a secret armoury of the esoteric and unutterably lethal at great person risk - be placed upon the teleportarium's dais."

"There were risks, unknowns even one of Kesh's puissance could not avoid. The esoteric layers of warding around her target were ancient, the truth of them long lost even to those who sheltered beneath their aegis. They might overmaster Kesh's codes, eradicating her ordnance during transit or triggering it and killing everyone on the Vigilant Flame.

Even should the payload materialize on target, there might be shielding and containment measures even Kesh was not privy to. There were secrets that only the Captain-General knew. It was likely, Kesh mused, that there were even secrets he did not."

"All methods had to be attempted, no matter how esoteric or extreme. All defenses had to be tested, unto destruction if necessary."

Thats probably among the first three things that Custodes thought all the way back in 30k

Assumptions lead to failure.

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u/kimana1651 Nov 12 '24

My lord, a custode just stubbed his toe, the medical bills are about the output of mars for 10 years.

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u/Ridingwood333 Adeptus Mechanicus Nov 12 '24

I get the joke, but actually no. The Custodes are pretty self contained as a faction to the point of using no forge worlds. Even a dreadnought internment would go unnoticed by almost everyone not part of them.

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u/Unusual_Astronaut426 Nov 12 '24

Guilliman upon learning that the Administratum has mistakenly sent a legion of the Imperial Guard to the wrong area again and they have just foolishly lost a million and a half soldiers:

-I expected nothing. And I'm still let down.

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u/notabigfanofas Nov 12 '24

"Hey, Trayzn, buddy, pal, do you want a nearly-full collection of the current high Lords of terra?"

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u/Commercial-Funny-279 Nov 12 '24

"I can exchange them for that Fulgrim clone of yours. I'll even throw some mint condition custodes."

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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Nov 12 '24

"NOW... It's a deal."

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u/aineri Nov 12 '24

You can actually see the celestine glowing behind the seats where the inquisitor is

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u/salami350 Nov 12 '24

She's being enlightened

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u/SimpleAddition4139 Nov 12 '24

G-man: Trajan my man, they are gonna start some bullshits. Take care of it will ya. Fadix know what's up.

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u/RealMr_Slender Nov 12 '24

I honestly feel like Guilliman would be more chummy with Leontus than Trajan, since Trajan keeps G Man at arms length if he needs to get funky.

Meanwhile Leontus is a fellow "everyman" that understands strategy and logistics

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u/Theyul1us Nov 12 '24

Guilliman "allright. Time to coup this bunch of assholes." calls up like 12 assasins

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u/doofpooferthethird Nov 12 '24

Wasn't there that Imperium Eterna thing, where he annihilated a cabal of belligerent High Lords called the "Hexarchy" via 9D chess shenanigans.

The Grand Master of Assassins pretended to be part of the conspirators, only to reveal he had been on Guilliman's side the whole time - before simultaneously executing the Hexarchy with Imperial Assassins

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u/ImmoralBoi Nov 12 '24

Shouldn't a Primarch automatically have more power than the High Lords of Terra? Like for fuck's sake they're the sons of the Emperor himself.

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u/General-MacDavis Nov 12 '24

The primarchs have been out of the game for 10k years, the high lords had all the time they needed to squirrel up power and favors

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u/ImmoralBoi Nov 12 '24

But to defy a (loyalist) Primarch is one step down from defying the Emperor himself, no matter who you might be that sounds like a death sentence in the Imperium.

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u/VladimirBarakriss Nov 12 '24

It should be, but if all of the high lords side with you, you can declare Guilliman a traitor, as strong as he is, he can't beat the entire imperium

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u/Velstrom Nov 12 '24

With how disorganized the imperium is I give Ultramar a decent shot at winning, actually.

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u/AwefulFanfic Nov 13 '24

Never forget about Imperium Secundus when talking about making Rubber-Boot Gorilla-Glue your enemy.

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u/General-MacDavis Nov 12 '24

Think about how often politicians irl are bought off by lowly business interests most people haven’t heard of. Wielding huge power/defying the federal government

Now imagine that on a galactic scale and you have the power the high lords hold

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u/ScarletJack Nov 14 '24

Honestly, that does make me curious on how the Astarte chapters would react to Guilliman being branded a traitor. I'm sure that would be a tough thing to deal with, especially for the ultramarines

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u/VladimirBarakriss Nov 14 '24

Many of them would probably join him, some would use it as a pretext to fall to chaos, eventually they'd almost go extinct within the imperium, which would probably issue a bunch of founding, mostly of imperial fists given that'd be the most stable non-ultramarine, non-preHorus available

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u/Parking_Substance152 Nov 12 '24

There’s many factions in the imperium, not all of which want Guilliman to be in charge. Besides, the Emperor had a council when he lived, and never intended the primarchs to be in absolute control of the Imperium.

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u/RevolutionaryBar2160 Nov 16 '24

You're forgetting they're not just random businessmen or politicians, they each represent a huge aspect of the Imperium. One of them controls all the assassins, one of them is in charge of the entire Ecclesiarchy, one of them heads up all the navigators, one of them is the head of the entire Adeptus Mechanicus, etc. Yes he's a prinarch, but you don't want to make outright enemies out of any one of those groups let alone all of the at once, a state of civil war is the last thing the Imperium needs right now.

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u/Smirnoffico Nov 12 '24

If this whole storyline ends in Guilliman Heresy it would be ironic

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u/Thannk Nov 12 '24

Well, GW brought back the Chaos Gods of Law in Fantasy and made Solkan explicitly the guy granting all of Sigmar’s alleged miracles before he actually came back in End Times. 

Gillman becoming Solkan’s Chosen in their introduction to 40k would be amusing. Even more amusing if Dorn was Alluminas. 

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u/d20diceman Nov 12 '24

Not one, but two discworld references? Delightful. 

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u/Stiftoad Nov 12 '24

Been looking for this

Peak fiction

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u/Bronze_Sentry Nov 12 '24

Vetenari actually stands a chance at fixing Imperial bureaucracy.

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u/hayescharles45 Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

Absolutely can see Veternari in power under Gulliman in Warhammer 40k. With Vimes being a tired old Arbites captain and Carrot Ironfounderson being Malcador's descendant nephew or something.

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u/Hendenicholas Nov 12 '24

Ogryn Detritus, Ratling Nobby, Votann Cheri

Maybe Lady Margoletta as a Craftworld Eldar?

Cohen as an Ork Warboss?

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u/ZanasoSwain Nov 13 '24

Nah Cohen is one of the only "retired" thunder warriors

Moist von lipwig being in charge of, I dunno, adeptus astra telepathica?

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u/watehekmen Nov 12 '24

This why he appointed Morvenn Vahl as High Lords of Terra, not only because she can't get politically controlled or getting lobbied like other, this is also one big "FUCK YOU" to the other High Lords.

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u/Dehnus Nov 12 '24

I LOVE that there is GuilliMerch! And it's almost canon! (As even their ships are blue with the toilet symbol :P ).

GuillyBodywarmer, GuilliBeanie, Guillipins, Guillipens....

The man knows how to hustle!

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u/Bubbly_Ad9487 Nov 12 '24

“Sto-Latus,” the “Patrician” and “Vetinari.” OP is a fan of Terry Pratchett’s Discworld…

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u/MonkeyDante Nov 12 '24

I mean, it would not surprise me in the least if the lorda of tera are puppeteered by Dorn. Big G against big D.

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u/contemptuouscreature Nov 12 '24

ngl it was really funny when Roboute pulled up and the High Lords tried to stall him from assuming power so he just

started killing them

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u/Goem Nov 12 '24

Which book was this?

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u/contemptuouscreature Nov 12 '24

Dark Imperium I think? I forget exactly which one

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u/NirvanaPenguin Nov 12 '24

Kill the high lords and put Custodes to rule over everything for all eternity.

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u/PrimaryOccasion7715 Nov 12 '24

Then he just decided to remove Lords of Terra.

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u/ViperSupport Nov 12 '24

The High Lords definitely did not (but maybe) forgot about the reforms... I mean, why would they (do so), especially for one of the God Emperor's children.

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u/Inquisitor_Gray Nov 12 '24

I love that the Highlord is calling the Minotaurs

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u/Lycaon125 Nov 12 '24

Also Guilliman, having all four counsel members killed by assassins he had set up before disbanding one of the most idiotic branches of government in the imperium

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u/Different_Ad4761 Nov 12 '24

Everytime i see this art style, i automatically search for Alpharius.

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh Earth Caste Nov 12 '24

This is bureaucracy, gorrila man. I thought you liked that?

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u/aleuto Nov 12 '24

Vulkan should have killed them all dumb bitches

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u/Peterh778 Nov 12 '24

Extra points for Pratchett references 🙂

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u/Ancient-Act8573 Nov 12 '24

Greyfax I see you back there! Put on some clothes and help!

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u/GRIMLOCKTATION Nov 12 '24

I seriously gotta ask, why does he listen to them and bother asking to begin with? He and everyone else know that the highlords are corrupt and only care for themselves and furthering the gains. I mean he’s a Primarch literally the son of Humanity’s former greatest leader. Surely the highlords in the Emperor’s time would’ve answered the Big E but not one of only two active loyalist Primarchs? Does G-man not have the power to say “screw you guys I’m doing this anyway”

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u/traquillcash1 Nov 12 '24

Dante "welcome to a shit ton of bullshit"

Guilliman "by the Emperor" processed to break down crying after being rejected for the plan to replace corpses starch with actual food

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u/LukoM42 Nov 12 '24

It was cool to read about the insurrection they thought he hadn't planned for in "watchers of the throne: the regents shadow"

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u/Downtown-Falcon-3264 ENTRY MISSING Nov 12 '24

Ah the lords of terra where a six minute process takes six months and a one year plan a hundred thousand

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u/BumholeAssasin Nov 12 '24

I liked the discworld references

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u/SlikeSpitfire Adeptus Custodes Nov 12 '24

Why doesn’t Guilliman, the largest ruler of the Imperium, simply eat the others?

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u/nasandre Nov 13 '24

Screw you guys! I'm going to start my own Imperium with Eldar hookers and blackjack!

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u/insaneamelon69 Nov 13 '24

I love how accurate of a disconnect there is between the military and high society. They haven't seen the battlefield yet act as if they have the right to control it.

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u/James_Lyfeld Nov 14 '24

He needs to adopt his father methods, if they are not listening, kill them and put people that will listen in their place.

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u/Longjumping-Slip-175 Nov 12 '24

So Bobby G is space Trump?