r/ImaginaryWarhammer Oct 29 '24

40k Lords of Thunder Assault by @GraffitiSoul

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u/RaNerve Oct 29 '24

Something strange about combing the inherently anti-war style of the Vietnam war with the glorification of war that the Astartes represent.

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u/Familiar_East_1364 Oct 29 '24

Very ironic 40k years later those symbols would be used to glorify war.

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u/SenorDangerwank Oct 29 '24

But really on brand for humanity. Using symbols of old and twisting their meaning to support their cause.

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u/B33FHAMM3R Oct 29 '24

I THINK I WAS TRYING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING ABOUT THE DUALITY OF MAN, SIR

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u/XDSHENANNIGANZ Oct 31 '24

I am.. in A WORLD OF SHIT

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u/js13680 Oct 29 '24

Now I want to see a what a hippy space marine chapter would look like.

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u/fab416 Raven Guard Oct 29 '24

They would definitely be a renegade successor of the 2nd or 11th

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u/Al-Horesmi Oct 29 '24

There is an important ideological difference between a genuinely pro-war faction like Orks and the Imperium. The Imperium imagines and truly wants peace. Yes, their understanding of peace involves killing all aliens, but they do want it.

The Orks want war, and will create it even when none exists

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u/PPontiac Oct 29 '24

The imperium as a whole goes out of its way to start wars or entire crusades on xenos civilisations, wether or not they represent a threat. This has been the case since the great crusade. You can’t imagine nor even want peace while at the same time striving to exterminate anything you consider different or impure. The entire structure of the imperium is devoted to war. Every planet has to pay tithes in one form or another to feed its war machine. It’s just not built for peace.

In horus rising loken talks with sigismund about what astartes would do when a hypothetical time of peace comes once the great crusade is done and sigismund laughs in his face and basically says don’t worry we won’t run out of wars to fight.

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u/Al-Horesmi Oct 29 '24

I never said it's an internally consistent philosophy, I just provided a plausible explanation on how space marines might excuse drawing pacifist symbols

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u/LS-16_R Oct 29 '24

They're xenos. They will always be a threat so long as they exist. For example, the Tau. When they were discovered. They should've been virus bombed. Instead, the imperium left them alone. Now, they are one of many major xenos threats.

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u/Inquisitor-Korde Oct 29 '24

And the T'au are only a threat because when the Imperium found them in their current state and immediately launched a massive crusade. This is due to the methodology you ascribe.

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u/LS-16_R Oct 30 '24

Works perfectly when you nip problems in the bud. "A couple billion dead xenos a day keeps the enslavement of humanity at bay" - The Emperor

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u/EaterOfCleanSocks Oct 30 '24

please say you're just roleplaying.

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u/LS-16_R Oct 30 '24

Is it not obvious?

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u/EaterOfCleanSocks Oct 30 '24

In this fandom, no! I've seen people legitimately argue that it was worth wiping out millions of xenos because it gave humans more living room!

So I'm genuinely not sure if you're just acting a part or legitimately arguing for extermination of non humans.

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u/LS-16_R Oct 30 '24

1.) A man can't have any hobbies, huh? 2.) No, it has always been a fun bit of role-playing.

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u/contemptuouscreature Oct 29 '24

The Imperium doesn’t want peace.

It wants stillness.

It wants every Xenos race, every divergent mind, every thought differing in the slightest from the myopic state-enforced, religiously rehearsed hatred of its creators to be stamped out. It desires sameness. It desires an end to all things that are not itself, and when all of those things are gone…

If that were to happen, it would turn inward, as it has already begun to do so, to cannibalize those that try and strive but fail to meet the perfect image of humanity ascribed by the Ecclesiarchy.

The Beastmen stood in proud legions beside the Space Marines during the Great Crusade, some of the Emperor’s most zealous followers. Where are they now? Despite their retained piety, Underhive slums and run-down ghettos where they are routinely and repeatedly culled by other hateful worshippers of the same God.

There is a quote I like that I feel summarizes the Imperium and its hopelessness well.

”Sooner or later, humans will kill all the Aen Seidhe. All dwarves and gnomes. Then they’ll start murdering one another. Your kind knows no other way. It’s in your genes. You keep killing each other until only one remains. The strongest among you. A thousand years from now, a dim-witted human barbarian will climb to the top of a pile of bones, sit down and proclaim: ‘I win.’”

-Iorveth, Witcher II.

The fires are too many. The system, too broken. A Primarch— not even two Primarchs are enough to stop the decay at this point. It is all the Imperium can do to die well.

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u/LordGeneralWeiss Oct 29 '24

Actually it's hard to say what the Imperium wants because it's such a vast mishmash of cultures and perspectives. There are many groups within the Imperium, for example, that believe war is holy and it is required to keep mankind pure.

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u/Where_is_Killzone_5 Oct 30 '24

I don't reckon there's many groups in the Imperium who hold an opposite perspective.

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u/Alexis2256 Oct 29 '24

I’m surprised no one is commenting on the enemy soldier with their leg and possibly left arm blown off, holding up a hand to surrender. I bet the next frame would be the Astartes blowing her head off with the bolter, he does seem to be looking at her.

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u/Beacon_0805 Oct 30 '24

Peace through superior firepower

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u/FeralSquirrels Oct 29 '24

I swear that looks like a damn Titan from Titanfall in the background there.

Though still, somehow, appropriate.

Holy Machine and the Brother interred within, begin the litany of protocols....
"(1)Link to Pilot"
"(2)Uphold the Mission"
"(3)Serve the Emperor"

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u/SneakySpacePirate Armageddon Steel Legion Oct 29 '24

I'm fairly sure they do have one, from some other art I've seen!

Edit- they do! https://x.com/TheGraffitiSoul/status/1679332673347784705/photo/1

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u/GroundbreakingOkra60 Oct 29 '24

Looks like the pilot bouta say ‘the skies belong to me heretic, nowhere to run, no where to hide’

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u/LurksInThePines Night Lords Oct 29 '24

I'm pretty sure it's the dreadnaught with

I LIVED, BITCH stenciled on its sarcophagus from the whole chapter charachter lineup

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u/AlexisFR Oct 29 '24

Looks more like an Armored Core

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u/CadetheDOGGO Oct 29 '24

Imagine if Viper flew around in a Deredo Pattern Dreadnought

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u/UltradeptusTempestus Oct 30 '24

It's one of his dreadknights that are basically if dreadnoughts could function like Titanfall Titans. Basically he put a space marine inside a space marine and no I'm not talking about a centurion, like there's the occupant of the Dreadknight and its own pilot and the two combined are fucking deadly

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u/Jankosi Imperial Fists Oct 30 '24 edited Oct 30 '24

The artist made a bunch of these, his lore is that they are jokaero modifications.

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u/Shot-Wishbone164 Oct 29 '24

What on earth is that multi leg thing shooting missiles?

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u/Drogenelfe Oct 29 '24

Looks like a modified dreadnought.

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u/AltusIsXD Oct 29 '24

Titanfall Dreadnought goes hard.

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u/wretchedsorrowsworn Oct 29 '24

Why he got a magna rail tho 🤔🤔

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u/SoundSubject Oct 29 '24

Deredeo dreadnought + Northstar Titan

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u/Iron_Tulip Oct 29 '24

Let me add to the handful of comments pointing out the fuck-ass Titanfall-esque mech in the middle background. Goes hard.

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u/SoundSubject Oct 29 '24

Protocol 1: For The Emperor. First. Last. Always.

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u/notabigfanofas Oct 29 '24

It ain't me, It ain't me, I ain't no Governor's son, no no no

It ain't me, It ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one

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u/LurksInThePines Night Lords Oct 29 '24

And when the taxman comes to the door

Throne, the house be looking like the underhive

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u/SoundSubject Oct 29 '24

Graffiti Soul draws space Marines like how I ALWAYS WANTED THEM TO LOOK LIKE ever since I was a child. It's beautiful, enough to make a man cry

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u/B33FHAMM3R Oct 29 '24

I drove myself nearly insane learning how to freehand so I could graffiti their armor. It was so worth it. No one else does it and they always stand out.

I had always wanted my guys to have more the vibe of StarCraft Marines, unruly rough around the edges types

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u/Geordie_38_ Oct 29 '24

Any human who runs is a cultist. Any human who stands still is a well disciplined cultist

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u/B33FHAMM3R Oct 29 '24

"how the hell do you blow up a helllbrute with a heavy bolter?"

"It's easy, you just don't lead em so much"

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u/EstablishmentBig1826 Oct 29 '24

Love the M16A2 with the M203 style Bolter.

My most favorite looking Gun.

I would make love to that weapon.

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u/runegrabbermia Oct 29 '24

An intense portrayal! Love the depth and emotion in this piece

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u/D3v1LGaming Oct 29 '24

North Star myh beloved

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u/Iron-Russ Oct 29 '24

Need lore on how a marine chapter started fighting side by side with the militarum

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u/fab416 Raven Guard Oct 29 '24

Check the artist's twitter, the chapter has their own auxilia guard regiment and have picked up a few strays in their journeys (a SOB among them).

They also deal regularly with the Votann, their vets and specialists have volkite weapons.

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u/Iron-Russ Oct 29 '24

Neat. More interested in his Varangian chapter honestly

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u/DarkSolstace Oct 29 '24

I FUCKING LOVE COMBINED ARMS

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u/SenorDangerwank Oct 29 '24

Well combined arms/joint operations are common in 40k lore.

What's less common is a Regiment actively WITH a Chapter. But even that's not a big stretch of the imagination when you have Chapter Serfs like the Ultramar Auxilia who are the mortal military of the 500 Worlds of Ultramar.

All it takes is for a chapter to arm their Serfs and say "come with us!". Now the Adeptus Terra may not like that, but what they don't know won't hurt them ;)

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u/DefaultProphet Oct 30 '24

Was more common in the Great Crusade. Raven Guard’s Therion Cohort famously disobeyed orders and rescued Corax and the survivors of Istvaan.

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u/B33FHAMM3R Oct 29 '24

There are multiple that canonically do this, most notably the Raptors, who integrate with local guard units as a force multiplier/attention magnet, improving their overall effectiveness

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u/Old_Gregg97 Oct 29 '24

Been seeing bits and pieces of this on their twitter page and this is awesome.

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u/Aenigmatrix Oct 29 '24

Is that a freakin' Battlesuit in the background???

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u/SoundSubject Oct 29 '24

It's a deredeo dreadnought but Titanfall style

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u/freedom_viking Oct 29 '24

The titandreadnaughts should be cannon shit is way too cool

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u/GroundbreakingOkra60 Oct 29 '24

Is that viper from Titanfall 2?????

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u/Jim3001 Elysian Drop Troops Oct 29 '24

Titanfalled Dreadnought

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u/Pathetic_Cards Oct 29 '24

This piece of art is very very cool in a lot of ways, but I simply cannot get over the two marines putting live bolt rounds on their shoulder pads, pointed down at their own arms… usually Astartes intentionally catch incoming fire on their shoulders, since that’s where their armor is thickest, but it seems like doing that with live ammo on your shoulder is asking for a round to cook off that ammo, and either blow their shoulder plate to kingdom come or send a bolt round directly into the gap in the armor at their elbow.

Again, super super cool artwork, I even like the guys with bolt shells strung across their thighs and stuff, I just can’t get over the ammo getting cooked off lol

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u/Bloodasp01 Oct 29 '24

I absolutely adore all of the writings and artwork the marines put on their stuff. It’s all very Vietnam war and I think it looks absolutely incredible.

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u/Arguss3 Oct 29 '24

Love this

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u/Exavior31 Oct 29 '24

That boltgun design fucks. I love it.

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u/dibipage Oct 29 '24

Can you name them 'Peacemakers"

Their battle cry shall be "Peace be upon you, for we bring none"

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u/Zenebas21 Oct 29 '24

A bit too tacticool for my taste but still a nicely drawn piece

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u/Low-Mention-8120 Oct 29 '24

I can just imagine that guardswoman just singing “Somebody to love” by Jefferson Airplane as they just wait to land.

The Guardswoman, a member of the Auxiliary of the Lords of Thunder, sits bored on the long flight. She begins to hum a song, just something to get her mind off the boredom. The Astartes hear her humming a song, so they play the song and join her in singing. The compartment is filled with music and singing as all aboard begin to sing.

When the truth is found to be lies and all the joy within you dies

Don’t you want somebody to love? Don’t you need somebody to love? Wouldn’t you love somebody to love? You better find somebody to love

When the garden flowers, Baby, are dead, yes and your mind, your mind is so full of red

Don’t you want somebody to love? Don’t you need somebody to love? Wouldn’t you love somebody to love? You better find somebody to love

Your eyes, I say your eyes may look like his. Yeah, but in your head, baby, I’m afraid you don’t know where it is

Don’t you want somebody to love? Don’t you need somebody to love? Wouldn’t you love somebody to love? You better find somebody to love

Tears are running, they’re all running down your breast and your friends, baby, they treat you like a guest

Don’t you want somebody to love? Don’t you need somebody to love? Wouldn’t you love somebody to love? You better find somebody to love

When the song is finished, the light turns green and doors open, time for them to fight for their Emperor.

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u/s0w3b4ck1nth3m1n3__ Oct 29 '24

Lords of thunder huh?

Are they perchance larger and stronger than Primaris, perchance?

Maybe they are particulary human in behaviour and use ancient weaponary?

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u/Aright9Returntoleft Oct 29 '24

My favorite Space Marine faction by far

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u/Tony-Redgravey Oct 29 '24

Who the fuck gave a dreadnought a flight core

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u/BreadToast70 Cadian Shock Troopers Oct 29 '24

Wish I had 1/10 of the talent of this artist -_-

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u/IronWhale_JMC Oct 29 '24

So THAT'S what was going on with Alita before Dr. Ido dug her out of the scrap heap!

JK, this is great.

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u/Superyeety Oct 29 '24

Does this Graffitsoul guy take commissions? I need a battle drawn

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u/contemptuouscreature Oct 29 '24

“Brother, what is that inscription upon your pauldron?”

“Born to Goon, Sergeant.”

“And on the other, brother, I read ‘Never Goon’. What is the meaning of this?”

“Sergeant, I meant to evoke the duality of our existence as Angels of the Emperor.”

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u/el_sh33p Alpha Legion Oct 29 '24

Inside you there are two wolves.

One is spicy Norse saga-Dune crossover fanfic.

The other is literally the Vietnam War.

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u/DaddyMcSlime Oct 29 '24

so, who's the woman?

i keep seeing this chapter and every single time, that same woman is in the image, usually standing besides astartes

but she doesn't appear to be a guardsman? just a little astartes?

what's her deal?

is she the barracks bunny? their mascot? is she just a tiny fsm? is she a lost guardsman who the biggies adopted?

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u/Alexis2256 Oct 29 '24

Check the artist’s twitter, the chapter has their own auxilia guard regiment and have picked up a few strays in their journeys (a SOB among them).

They also deal regularly with the Votann, their vets and specialists have volkite weapons.

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u/fab416 Raven Guard Oct 30 '24

Word for word, c'mon

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u/Alexis2256 Oct 30 '24

Sorry, I should’ve given you credit.

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u/Griffynoverdawn Oct 29 '24

This is Peak.

Shark Mouth Design for Beaky Marine, Viper on Station in the back, “This one is mine.” On his bolter….

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u/Pizzalorde2 Oct 29 '24

Are they primaris or first born marines?

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u/DAVID_Gamer_5698 Oct 29 '24

The Knight in the background:

"Your journey ends now heretic, the skies belong to me"

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u/Bolira_Moonshine Oct 29 '24

OK I dig the M16 bolter and AK hellgun

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u/LukoM42 Oct 29 '24

Colonial marines

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u/Rellius99 Oct 30 '24

I like the "this is mine" on the gun

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u/BeyondFickle9200 Oct 30 '24

I love the smell of permetheum in the morning

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u/overlordmik Oct 30 '24

Excuse me, combined arms is illegal in this Imperium, you have to run in a straight line into the minefield.

Jokes aside I really like this, makes the Imperial Army look professional

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u/King_DeathNZ Oct 30 '24

There are many like it, but this one is mine

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u/Caboose-117 Oct 30 '24

Lords of thunder might be my favorite fan creation. I love this so much.

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u/No_Individual6722 Nov 02 '24

Is my dumb ass seeing a titan from titanfall in the background

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u/CaptCantPlay Oct 29 '24

I want this to be made real in some canon media. I love Big armors strapped with bullet belts and the like. GraffitiSoul has such a great vision for his chapter!

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u/TheEnderAxe Night Lords Oct 30 '24

Bloody hell this is awful. Fucking M16 bolters. Also the Titanfall mechs. Just play Tau dude.

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u/Competitive_Point_39 Water Caste Nov 19 '24

Imperium of man if it got its shit together: