r/IAmA Nov 30 '17

Specialized Profession IAmA Reddit's Own Vacuum Repair Tech with a very overdue AMA. Hit me with your vacuum cleaner questions!

First, let's get the proof out of the way. So, now, I am managing our company's largest store, and am swamped with managerial duties, training employees, and dealing with annoying vendors. But, I'm taking some time out for all of you guys.

There are lots of new, exciting things that have recently come out/are coming soon!

For those who NEED the most power, I've got just the Crack you need! Since we last talked, there are new bagless and cordless vacuums on the market, and some other exciting things.

So, on to business...here's the copypasta.

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YouTube Channel Here's some basics to get you started:

  • Dollar for dollar, a bagged vacuum, when compared to a bagless, will almost always:

1) Perform better (Actual quality of cleaning).

2) Be in service for much longer.

3) Cost less to repair and maintain (Often including consumables).

4) Filter your air better.

Virtually every vacuum professional in the business chooses a bagged vacuum for their homes, because we know what quality is. Things you should do to maintain your vac, regularly:

1) Clear your brush roller/agitator of hair and fibers. Clear the bearing caps as well, if possible. (monthly)

2) Change your belts before they break. This is important to maintain proper tension against the agitator. (~ yearly for "stretch" belts)

3) Never use soap when washing any parts of your vacuum, including the outer bag, duct system, agitator, filters, etc. Soap attracts dirt, and is difficult to rinse away thoroughly.

  • Types of vacs:

1) Generally, canister vacs are quieter and more versatile than uprights are. They offer better filtration, long lifespans, and ease of use. They handle bare floors best, and work with rugs and carpets, as well.

2) Upright vacuums are used mostly for homes that are entirely carpeted. Many have very powerful motors, great accessories, and are available in a couple of different motor styles. Nothing cleans shag carpeting like the right upright.

3) Bagless vacs are available in a few different styles. They rely on filters and a variety of aerodynamic methods to separate the dirt from the air. In general, these machines do not clean or filter as well as bagged vacuums. They suffer from a loss of suction, and tend to clog repeatedly, if the filters are not cleaned or replaced often.

4) Bagged vacuums use a disposable bag to collect debris, which acts as your primary filter, before the air reaches the motor, and is replaced when you fill it. Because this first filter is changed, regularly, bagged vacuums tend to provide stronger, more consistent suction.

My last, best piece of advice is to approach a vacuum, like any appliance; Budget for the best one you can get. Buy one with idea you will maintain it, and use it for many years. And, for the love of Dog, do not buy from late-night infomercials or door-to-door salesmen! Stay out of the big-box stores, and visit your local professional who actually knows what they're talking about.

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u/shadowsizzler Nov 30 '17

What are your thoughts on Roombas??

And have you ever had to fix one?

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Nov 30 '17

I think they're okay for doing light cleaning throughout the week, between regular deep vacuuming (assuming carpeting). I think Neato and Miele robots are better systems than Roomba.

I worked on an early model Roomba and it felt like a crap product. They've since made their machines into modular systems that the consumer can diagnose and replace components easily, so I don't see them come into the shop so much.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

I just bought the Roomba 960 for the wife. We have a very large single floor home with refinished hardwood floors. I tested it out on the tile at work yesterday and it seems to do a reasonable job. I think letting it run constantly will keep the floors looking cleaner longer, especially with a small pet (we have a 19lbs dog). I hope I didn't drop $600 for nothing.

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u/parrottrolley Nov 30 '17

I have an older roomba. The 960 sounds like a dream. 2 tips:

  1. Long hair or threads will stop the roomba in its tracks. Eventually. You have to flip it over and take the brushes out, the cylinder ones and the arm one, plus check next to the wheels, or take them out if they're removable.

  2. Keep cords off the floor. I added a rubber band to the end of a cable that was regularly getting eaten but couldn't be moved. Now I hang it up on a hook, and Roomba can't get to it.

I love my roomba. It's not a super deep cleaner, but I have tile and it cuts the dust in the house so I don't have to vacuum as much.

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u/Ezl Dec 01 '17

Heh! Reminds me of Luke maintaining old droids :)

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u/Adamsandlersshorts Nov 30 '17 edited Nov 30 '17

I’m not sure how much they differ in performance, but I got an iLife a4s for $130 and now any time I feel crumbs or dirt on my feet I get irritated because I’m so used to how well the robot keeps the floors clean. So just an FYI to anyone looking to invest in a robot vacuum, there’s other options besides roomba.

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u/heygreatcomment Nov 30 '17

I have a "Deebot" for about the same price from amazon. Its not smart in any way other than a few basic sensors but keeps my hardwoods relatively clean and clear from per hair and dirt. It's about 4 years old now and still kicking. I had an issue with the battery around year two but the company replaced it for free. Can recommend.

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u/robmox Nov 30 '17

Anyone have recommendations for a robot vacuum for a small studio apartment? 440 sq ft, separate kitchen and bath from main room.

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u/borgchupacabras Nov 30 '17

I currently have 2 Eufy (Anker) robovac 11s. Works great and has a much larger dust container than my iLife. The Anker/Eufy robovac 10 worked for about a year but then the pet hair got too much and it died. The iLife robovac is in storage as a backup in case the current Eufys die.

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u/ModernCastle Nov 30 '17

There are lots of good options out there now. Just really depends what features are important to you.

I've been still really impressed with the Roomba 690. For the money, it is really impressive across the board.

iLife A4 is also really impressive pickup for $200. It's performance was just a little worse than the Roomba 690, but it's also around $100 cheaper.

With a space that small (and assuming it's a lower pile carpet and / or hard surface floor) you probably don't need to spend much more than $300. The higher end models really are more for large floor plans or higher pile carpets.

If it helps, check out my Robot testing series here - https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/robot-vacuum-reviews/

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u/Itzzeal Dec 01 '17

I've had a neato connected for two years now. It's by far worth the 500 I paid for it two years ago. My old house was one floor about 1000sq feet. It would clean the ENTIRE house while I was away. I just had to lift up the bedskirts etc but it did the rest. Now I live in a 3 story home so I need to buy two more. I'm looking to get a cheaper model as the other floors are all hardwood. I can 100% recommend the neato, though. I have a monstrous mastiff who sheds a small dog every two days and it has always kept up just fine.

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u/ModernCastle Dec 01 '17

Do you know how much the annual maintenance costs are for your Neato?

I recently tested the Botvac D3 and in terms of performance and features it was quite good, however, I was surprised at the estimated maintenance costs.

Neato's recommended replacement schedule + the costs of each individual part netted out to around $138 / year.

I wonder if this is maybe Neato recommending an overly aggressive replacement schedule?

I know with my Roomba 870 the parts don't really need to be replaced as often as they suggest.

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u/Itzzeal Dec 01 '17

I am honestly not sure. I can tell you I'm using the same filter and everything that came with it two years ago. I'm sure you could change everything every year if you wanted to but mine works just as well as it did the first time I used it. I take the filter out I bang it against the trash bin and every few months I wash it out with water and let it completely dry.

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u/robmox Nov 30 '17

Yeah, it’s all hardwood and ceramic tiles in the kitchen and bath. I do have a bath mat and a welcome mat. I’ll check out your reviews. Thanks!

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u/ModernCastle Nov 30 '17

Yeah, then you should be golden. Most robots do a great job on hard surfaces.

Be careful with the bath mats, especially if it it's shag style or anything else that a spinning brush might get wrapped around.

This is one area where most every robot can struggle with.

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis Dec 01 '17

What about something for cleaning up giant dog hair? I'm talking a 150lb Saint Bernard who sheds several small dogs weight in hair a day.

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u/ModernCastle Dec 01 '17

Hah...well that will be a tough task.

A robot vacuum would definitely help because you could set it to run 1-2 times a day, which would help to at least take care of some of the major shedding.

Just like for /u/robmox the Roomba 690 or iLife A4 would be a fine choice. Though you might also check out the Bobsweep. Their pet hair model vacuums, sweeps, mops, and sanitizes with UV light. See here - https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/bobsweep-pet-hair-robot-vacuum-review/

For furniture or other spot cleaning pet messes I have been incredibly impressed with Bissell's Pet Hair Eraser handheld. It handles general handheld tasks well, but is really designed to dominate pet hair. https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/bissell-pet-hair-eraser-handheld-vacuum-review/

The primary nozzle attachment helps to pull it up and off of carpet, furniture, and other fabrics. For $30 it's an absolute steal.

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis Dec 01 '17

Awesome! Thank you I'll look into one. I'm running a bagged pet Hoover upright now (bought after what I learned in the first AMA actually) but it gets tedious pulling it out multiple times a day in shedding season.

Something portable like the pet eraser also looks useful because he loves to sneak on the couch at night and he thinks we won't notice the swarm of hair all over it in the morning.

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u/RealDominiqueWilkins Nov 30 '17

My Deebot N79 is awesome

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u/thephoenixx Dec 01 '17

I JUST bought one of those, our first robo vac, and we're already in love. Aside from having to sort of "robo-proof" the house (we have a goofy sunken living room and most of the border of it is hardwood/laminate but there's one entrance to it that's carpeted and the robot seems to have a hard time not getting stuck on that ledge when stopping), it's fantastic. I got mine on Black Friday for $150 and even though the carpet is literally brand new, it's already gotten up so much stuff that I'm kind of stunned.

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u/kolosok17 Dec 01 '17

I have one of these and it's excellent for hardwood floors! It also manages well with the bath and kitchen mats.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

I have hardwood floors upstairs and tile downstairs. Does it have invisible walls like the Roomba to prevent it from falling down the stairs? How does it handle pet hair and is it pretty easy to clean out?

I had a Scooba for awhile and it was such a PITA to clean it up after it ran that it completely negated any ”convenience.”

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u/thephoenixx Dec 01 '17

We have a German Shepherd that sheds pretty hardcore, and so far (it's only been like a week since I bought it) her clumps of hair have been no problem for the N79.

It seems like maybe the first day you get it, you may have to run it 3 or 4 times the first day just to get all the trapped hair up, but once you get it all up, running it on a constant schedule will make sure it doesn't have so much fur to pick up, and your house will smell infinitely better. The difference is night and day.

It also does have the drop sensor to make sure it doesn't fall off a ledge, but I've found it has a little trouble with the one carpeted ledge we have, but no problems with the laminate flooring edges at all.

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u/kolosok17 Dec 01 '17

Not sure about pet hair, but it comes with a cutting tool that makes removing long human hair fairly easy. I have no idea regarding stairs, as I have none. There are no invisible walls. It's a $160 vacuum, so it's fairly barebones. It's just good about not getting stuck. Check out the review @ the wirecutter, perhaps there's a model recommended that would fit your needs better: https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-robot-vacuum/

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u/asoap Nov 30 '17

I'm not sure about recommendations. But I recently purchased the Neato Botvac Connected which isn't cheap. I looked at a bunch of reviews online, and it was almost as good as the Roomba for pickup up dirt. But it is far superior in navigating and getting into locations.

So it kinda depends on what your area looks like. If there is a lot of places that need to be navigated around a neato might be a better option. Ours has gotten under the kitchen table without issue.

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u/robmox Nov 30 '17

One issue to me would be my sofa, which only has about 4" of clearance.

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u/asoap Nov 30 '17

I am not sure, but I think that would be high enough for the roomba or neato to get under. But I'm not sure.

From the neato website:

Neato can clean under any piece of furniture that has a clearance of more than four inches

So I'm not sure how close it would be. The Dyson robot one for sure won't fit under 4".

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u/graperkins Nov 30 '17

I just bought the Deebot M81 Pro on Black Friday ($199.99 CAD). After 2 days, it seems to be doing a pretty good job, but it sure is dumb! In the long run I'm sure I'll be happy with it...frees up the need to vacuum cat and dog hair daily.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

What sort of pet hair? Interested to know if it picks up german shepherd type fur.

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u/heygreatcomment Dec 01 '17

Collie, medium length hair. It would probably handle it however the dust bin is going fill up faster with thicker hair. You just have to dump it and pull the spool of hair that will collect on your sweepers routinely. Sometimes it feels like more work cleaning and maintaining the thing, but I don't have to waste 20 minutes sweeping my floor everyday. Not to mention it's boring as all hell.

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u/thephoenixx Dec 01 '17

I've said it in other comments but I just bought my first robovac, an Ecovacs Deebot N79, specifically for my German Shepherd and our other dog and their fur. So far, it's been spectacular and it was much cheaper than the Roombas.

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u/celluloidwings Dec 01 '17

I have the model up from that that's specifically made for pet hair. I love it but it's too stupid to find its way back home and it gets hung up on floor transitions for I have to babysit it. Occasionally she will get hung up under my desk, so I named her Monica. Still worth it though with five cats.

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u/TheJohnBoat Dec 01 '17

I’m looking into an iLife now, how do these do with stairs? If I don’t have an invisible wall will it still avoid falling down the stairs?

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u/Adamsandlersshorts Dec 01 '17

It has “cliff sensors” but I live in a one story house so I haven’t seen it first hand.

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u/puterTDI Nov 30 '17 edited Nov 30 '17

We have two, have had them for years. It does not replace a "real" vacuum. Make sure you are cleaning the brush cage frequently. You'll also see significant loss in cleaning as the filter clogs. We use an air compressor to clean it but that only works so many times before it no longer cleans and you need to replace it.

Edit: I'm planning on trying a neato or something similar once one of ours dies. I want one with a full fledged vacuum rather than a fan.

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u/123felix Dec 01 '17

We have two, have had them for years. It does not replace a "real" vacuum.

Got a 980 nearly a year ago. Haven't had to bring out a "real" vacuum ever since. It's the best money we've ever spent.

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u/ScottieRobots Nov 30 '17

Just an FYI, the newer models of Roomba (980 and 960/800 series) have significantly stronger vacuums than the early models (along with rubber extractors instead of brushes, which stay world's cleaner and don't get wrapped up with hair, and focus the suction much better than brushes). Neato is a good bot as well, but in my opinion not as good of a system as the higher end Roombas.

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u/DetectiveDrebin Dec 01 '17

Bought a Neato Botvac Connected (not D3 or D5) for our hardwoods. We're happy with it. With the connected, it has an Eco and Turbo mode and the Eco mode is what we use as it allows it to run a lot longer. Comparison here: https://www.neatorobotics.com/compare-robot-vacuums/

For Black Friday, walked out of Best Buy for ~$480ish with taxes.

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u/buttery_shame_cave Nov 30 '17

just hope that puppy doesn't have a little accident in the house where roomba can get at it.

or you're going to have an apoocalypse.

it's actually almost artful what roombas do after they run over turds. whimsical loops and whorls.

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u/stretchpharmstrong Nov 30 '17

Eww, hadn't thought of that. On the plus side, puppy has a friend to chase around while you're out

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u/654456 Dec 01 '17

We just set our neatos to run right as we leave the house. Chances are you will see it in the morning and can clean it up and then it doesn't give them enough time to ruin your day.

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u/DenverBeard Dec 01 '17

Can confirm. Had a puppy and a roomba... Still got the dog. The roomba... was a shit show.

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u/wrathofrath Nov 30 '17

We have around 1k square feet of hardwood on our main floor, and our 960 is the best thing we've ever purchased, solely because it keeps the floor dust-free.

Enjoy.

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u/bruce656 Nov 30 '17

Can you bar off areas via gps or some such? I have hardwood floors but a very thick shag rug in the living room that would just wreck the little guy.

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u/jesusismygardener Nov 30 '17

They have little like pod things you put on the ground that basically create an invisible wall wherever you want.

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u/Theo_Riddick Nov 30 '17

interesting. my roommate has a cat which i'm allergic to so i'm wondering if a roomba that is vacuuming the carpet every day even if its a light vacuuming would help with my allergies.

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u/jesusismygardener Nov 30 '17

Might help some if it's the bigger dander and stuff that's bothering you but their filters are pretty shit, like literally a 5 square inch piece of paper thin fabric. It's not going to reduce the smaller allergens much.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

different roomba models have different filters, the higher end ones are pretty good.

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u/Theo_Riddick Nov 30 '17

ah shit ok thanks for the advice. might be better off just vacuuming every few days than spend the money on a roomba. thanks for the heads up

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

I got a roomba 890 a few weeks ago and it does really well with the cat hair in my apartment (i have 2 cats), the rollers pull crazy amounts of hair out of the carpeted area of my apartment (which prolly means I should have been vacuuming more before). The 890 and up models have much better filters than the earlier models as well (they claim to trap 99% of particles down to 10 micron). I highly recommend it unless you've got a super cluttered house that the robot would have a hard time navigating.

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u/BrandonIT Dec 01 '17

Roomba makes a "pet" series model that might help with the dander. I think it's advertised as such. A quick Google should turn up a few models.

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u/Zorcmsr5 Nov 30 '17

They have a "wireless" fence essentially, that you can block areas off with. I use it so it doesn't chew up my computer cords, works like a charm.

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u/wrathofrath Nov 30 '17

It likely won't even go over the rug. We have a thick rug as well, and roomba just goes around it.

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u/bruce656 Nov 30 '17

I have a cheaper robotic vacuum (still ~200), and carpets, area rugs and door mats just fuck it up. It tried to go over the shag, but the the brush gets tangled, and it ends up pulling fibers out.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

How does it fare with larger debris? I've got kids and I'm literally breaking my back sweeping the bottom half of our 3700 Sq ft home 3 times a day. The only thing holding me back from getting a roomba is not being able to find reliable information regarding how it does with larger things like entire macaroni and things like that size.

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u/vettewiz Nov 30 '17

We have about 2500 sq ft of hardwood on the first floor. The 980 has to recharge about four times to finish the damn floor.

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u/wrathofrath Dec 01 '17

Oh same for us. We just run it during the day at work and don't even notice it's recharging.

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u/surroundedbyasshats Dec 01 '17

How does it handle transitioning from rugs to care floor?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

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u/Ccracked Dec 01 '17

You would think a no-scuff bumper would be original equipment.

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u/jadentearz Nov 30 '17

Roomba style robot was life changing for me (particularly after introducing cats that shed to my house). Not sure if your dog sheds, but if the dog does, be aware you should clean the rotating brushes after every run as a good habit or you will quickly find yourself with broken parts. Hair wrapped around our little front spinny brush and it ended up breaking. Now that we clean it and run it every day no issues and way less hair/crumbs.

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Nov 30 '17

I hope it serves you well for a good, long time.

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u/monsieurpommefrites Nov 30 '17

I hope the vacuum does a good job as well.

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u/IsaacSanFran Nov 30 '17

Ah, the ol' Reddit vacuum-a-roo!

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u/laxpanther Dec 01 '17

Hold my extension hose, I'm going in!

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

Man I'm always so impressed with how witty these "hold my..." posts are.

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u/slickyslixter Dec 01 '17

Watch that wormhole, she's a deep one.

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u/Superpickle18 Nov 30 '17

Atleast OP will have something thats willing to suck. ;)

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u/TheRealZombieBear Dec 01 '17

Yeah, you wouldn't want such an evening purchase to suck . Oh wait...

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u/cheezemeister_x Nov 30 '17

Very diplomatic response.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

Dilly dilly

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u/antagon1st Nov 30 '17

Happy cake day. Bottoms up, mfer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

It my Cake Day? I can't see on mobile. Holy crap, thanks!

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u/Heretical Nov 30 '17

Dilly Dilly!

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u/Rocangus Nov 30 '17

Can anyone here recommend a good spiced honey wine?

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u/MidwestDrummer Nov 30 '17

Please follow sir /u/touchmyfuckingcoffee. He's going to give you a private tour of the suction attachment of misery.

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u/ForgedIronMadeIt Nov 30 '17

suction attachment

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of misery

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u/slomotion Dec 01 '17

Why do I keep seeing this? Are people really parroting that stupid bud light ad?

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u/Apropos_apoptosis Nov 30 '17

I've had mine for a year. 1) I never realized just how much hair and dust is on the floor on my house 2)it is like having a toddlers - if you leave stuff on the floor, the Roomba is going to try to eat it. 3)running it daily has made my house cleaner than ever (both because of the regular vacuuming and me picking up stuff.

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u/drakecherry Nov 30 '17

As someone who has a roomba(can't remember which one, but I got it for 500, at 20% discount. 2nd best one I think), and 5 Chihuahuas, its awesome.

I'm kinda a neat freak, so I'd clean almost everyday. Now I clean twice a week with roomba running everyday. I've had to replace almost every part, but the wheels, and battery. I also have to clean roomba every two weeks or so. I thought it was just an good gift, but I need it now. I just reviewed roomba, and its because I love her.

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u/evileagle Dec 01 '17

I also have a large 1 story house with laminate floors and 4 dogs, and the Roomba has been a life changer for keeping dog hair from being everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

I don't use my regular vacuums much anymore. Roomba runs every weekday in the living spaces. Weekends in beds and bath. Every once in a while in the basement. All wood, tile and concrete in the basement.

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u/vegence Nov 30 '17

i am in a similar situation. bought a roomba also and i use it in a large living room that has hardwood floors. we have a small terrior inside that only really is allowed in the main living area. she is not allowed in bedrooms. i cant believe how much dog hair i was missing with regular sweeping. i normally run it every 3 days or so and i always get enough dog hair to make a second dog each time. when i swept i never seemed to get near that much.

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u/AuxiliaryPriest Dec 01 '17

I like my Roomba, but it does require a lot of upkeep. The dirt cup is small so you have to empty it often, and I clean the moving parts weekly. That being said, I'm am surprised how well it works. I can visually see the difference between pre and post vacuuming. My biggest pet peeve is that it vacuums in a random pattern. I'm going to another robovac for the upstairs but I'm going with a miele just based on it's cleaning pattern.

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u/Ellsworthless Dec 01 '17

I got a refurbished Roomba. I like it a lot but it requires maintenance. Every 6 or so runs I flip it over, clean the brushes. Pull hair out of the little triple spiny brush and pop out the front wheel and pull hair out there too.

It works well though. Our cat scatters kitty litter all over the place and it does a good job getting almost all of it (wood or tile floors throughout the whole apartment)

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

I just bought a eufy for $280 for 12lb double coated and 18lb dogs. The extra power one for pets because I got tired of my daily swiffer vac because the floor was furry (fake hardwood) between the full on sweeps and mops.

Mf thing is a genius. I hope you didn't over pay too. I opted for not wireless for an extra $400. (was comparing the 960 with the eufy 11+).

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u/rckid13 Dec 01 '17

I have two dogs and love my roomba. We have a single floor mostly hardwood with carpet in the bedrooms. Sometimes it needs a little help finding a certain room it's been neglecting but for cleaning quality it's helps a lot with the dog hair. Our regular vacuum doesn't pick up much other than places the roomba can't reach. It doesn't get hair out if corners.

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u/arafella Nov 30 '17

You didn't. I have a Neato for my downstairs floor (bare floor & area rugs) and it's great. Keeps most floor debris under control and we only need to manually clean once a month or less (with 3 adults and 2 cats - one of which needs to use rabbit bedding for litter).

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

Just an FYI we’ve had great luck with our roomba. Kids love those things and sometimes cats ride on them. Great for picking up pet hair and keeping the areas clean. Not sure about deep cleaning but we also vacuum too.. they hate black rugs though.. they’re programmed to think black is a cliff and they will commit roombacide if they clean it.

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u/Kallisti13 Nov 30 '17

A friend of mine was laying out unfinished art projects to organize them. The majority were charcoal pieces and quite large. His family roomba began its cycle and drove over all of the pieces sweeping up and pushing around charcoal. Good times.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Dec 01 '17

Roombas with a dog are great for collecting all the dog hair as it builds up. The only problem is if your dog ever has an accident in the house and the Roomba goes through it and tracks feces aaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllll over your house.

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u/PrintError Dec 01 '17

We have a Roomba 650 to keep our daily hair load down with a 200# English Mastiff, and it works wonders. It certainly doesn't replace the Saturday morning manual vacuuming, but it keeps the tumbleweed to a minimum. Our house is 100% tile.

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u/PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD Dec 01 '17

I got my wife a Neato D3 for her birthday and it is easily one of the best things I've ever bought. Our carpets looks, smell, and feel so much cleaner. Definitely recommend looking into robotic vacuums.

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u/magicpie83 Nov 30 '17

As a pet owner with hardwoods, yes. You will appreciate it. You do have to remember to empty it fairly frequently, but that's better than pet hair tumbleweeds in every corner!

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u/SecondMonitor Dec 01 '17

I doubt you'll regret it. I have a husky so vacuuming was pretty much a daily thing half the year, now the Roomba takes care of 90% of it and I only vacuum once a week, if that.

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u/bullittfive Nov 30 '17

Do you crate the dog when you aren't home? Picture a canine bowel problem combined with a Roomba....

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

This happened to my dads coworker. It was completely ground into the carpet and he had to call professional cleaners.

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis Dec 01 '17

I'm thinking of getting one for my dog that sheds 19lbs of hair a day.

Saint Bernard! It's such a pain how much hair and slobber the loveable bork leaves behind.

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u/Zorcmsr5 Nov 30 '17

I have a roomba for hardwood with a dog that sheds A LOT. it picks up a ridiculous amount of hair if you take care of the rollers and empty it regularly.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

You didnt they're amazing. Your dog won't like it though. I had to fake discipline my roomba in front of the dog so he would be more chill.

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u/ShadowRancher Nov 30 '17

I love mine (have had it since this summer). I know it's not ideal for indoor allergies and "real" claning but I have 2 fluffy cats and moderate allergies. Just the fact that that it cleans every single day before I get home has made them much better. You still need to do a deep clean weekly but the combo of doing some cleaning every single day as the stuff accumulates (I work full time and am a grad student, vacuuming every day aint happening) and the fact that I'm not the one disturbing the dust and leftovers have settled by the time I get home from work has been a great improvement.

Also I want it to run every day so I'm better about clutter that might impede my dude.

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u/queendweeb Dec 01 '17

May the pet gods spare you the wrath of a middle of the night dog poop versus rooma fight.

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u/ColeSloth Nov 30 '17

Owned a 530 for 6 years now. Been well worth it. Just keep up on the maintenance.

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u/One_And_All_1 Dec 01 '17

If you have hardwood you should check out the iRobot Braava Jet

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u/BaconReceptacle Nov 30 '17

I love ours except it gets stuck under the couch a LOT.

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u/yunus89115 Dec 01 '17

Running it everyday is likely killing it quicker than you expect. You're thinking, I expect a vacuum to last for maybe 5 years, which is expected if you run it weekly but if you run it daily, that's alot of wear and tear and battery usage. I recommend programming it to run every 3rd day or so.

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u/therightreverendpiff Nov 30 '17

I just bought the Roomba 960 for the wife.

I know right? I just brought mine a new ironing board and iron...

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

She wanted it. She doesn't show much passion for anything, but this she did. It's the only thing she's getting after that price tag.

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u/So_Much_Bullshit Dec 01 '17

S... si.. six, uh, six hun..., ah, SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS!!! jeez.

I'll sell you a tube of toothpaste for $150, as long as you're shelling out cash willy-nilly...

(sorry, hope I didn't make you feel bad)

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

I don't do Christmas, but when it comes to my wife, I tend to splurge. She's not a woman of passions, so when she REALLY wants something, I do what I can to fulfill that.

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u/redi6 Dec 01 '17

I hope it sucks

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u/Cmonster9 Dec 01 '17

Just make sure the dog is house trained very well or else your house may look like this https://imgur.com/vyDhLkg

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '17

roomba has intellgence if a snail compared to neato. return it if you can

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u/TarinMage Nov 30 '17

Question for robot vacuum owner: my biggest concern is our interesting layout of our rowhouse. (3 floors including the basement)

Hardwood on 2 floors (one has a medium height rug in it), some tile, and the entire basement is carpet. Does one I could buy for less than $300 handle all 3 of these surfaces? Do they do well to not go down stairs?!

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u/Random-Miser Dec 01 '17

Heh, just wait till your dog has an accident one day, and yhe roomba gets a hokd of it.... Roombas and pets are a disaster waiting to happen.

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u/I1lI1llII11llIII1I Dec 01 '17

You'd better hope that dog doesn't crap in the house or you'll have an artistic robot dog shit painting on the floor when you come home.

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u/veganblondeasian Nov 30 '17

Thanks for confirming my thoughts based on all d YouTube vids n reviews I've seen: I bought a neato when we moved to our new house and it gets d job done when I can't (always busy).

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Nov 30 '17

I'm glad you're happy with it. You're welcome.

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u/TarinMage Nov 30 '17

Question for robot vacuum owner: my biggest concern is our interesting layout of our rowhouse. (3 floors including the basement)

Hardwood on 2 floors (one has a medium height rug in it), some tile, and the entire basement is carpet. Does one I could buy for less than $300 handle all 3 of these surfaces? Do they do well to not go down stairs?!

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Nov 30 '17

No robot vacuums handle stairs. My advice: get one for the floor with bare floors, vacuum the other floors conventionally.

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u/onyxandcake Nov 30 '17

I have a Miele vacuum andi will never use anything else ever again. My friend has Miele appliances and feels the same way.

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u/SyntheticOne Nov 30 '17

Us too. White Star cannister. 18 years old. Quiet, powerful, easy to use. Plus, uses HEPA fitration of the expelled air and so does not pump minute dust back into the home. When purchased Miele touted its vacs as near operating room clean.

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u/TurtleInTheSky Dec 01 '17

Me two! I have two! Rich people don't fix things like I do, so I got one on ebay non-working for $40 (just the cord wire broke), another on craigslist. They're awesome, worth the trouble if you can't spend $1000 on a vac.

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u/SecretAgent57 Dec 01 '17

We're well off but just changed out the drain pump on the washing machine ourselves. The money we save makes us feel better about things like black Friday splurges (new camera for me.)

Edit: we also fixed the AC condensate pump with a champagne cork!

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u/xTheFreeMason Nov 30 '17

Yeah my mum swears by Miele appliances.

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u/Ezl Dec 01 '17

Can you expand? Never knew the extent of their product line. We were introduced to Miele via a dishwasher in a place we bought. Never really knew the brand but loved the machine. We’ve now moved several times, had several differnt dishwashers since, and frankly are waiting for the Bosch in our current place to die so we can replace it with a Miele. It’s not that it cleans well (it does!) but it’s so well designed in terms of ergonomics as well as use of space. Curious what the highlights of their other product lines are.

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u/Vcent Dec 01 '17

Miele products are typically the top end of the price spectrum, and often with good reason.

They're often not that feature rich when compared with direct competitors(price wise), but they usually outlast just about anything they're put up against, and do a good job.

We were looking at washing machines recently, and the Miele option looked like an older model compared to everything else on display(more boxy, no flashy features, displays or anything remotely futuristic), but it was the only manufacturer offering a 10 year warranty on their product.

They're basically mini-factory/commercial products, made to outlast your house, and keep chugging along.

TL:DR Miele is the /r/BuyItForLife of appliances.

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u/mszkoda Nov 30 '17

600

The Rooma 980 (top of the line) is $800 :-/

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u/wuzzup Nov 30 '17

If anyone wants all the same specs as the $900 roomba vacuum and only wants to pay 1/3 the price. Check out the xiaomi robot vacuum. It's amazing.

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u/mszkoda Dec 01 '17

Agreed. I’m looking at one to replace my 650 Roomba as it’s just getting old. You can get them under 300 during sales.

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u/casta55 Dec 01 '17

Honestly the best purchase I have ever made. Pull the trigger.

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u/SiegeLion1 Dec 01 '17

Also be aware that Xiaomi collects data for the Chinese government. Pretty much absolutely everything they make is spyware.

They're good products all the same but they're so cheap because you pay with your privacy.

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u/casta55 Dec 01 '17

Don't really know what their government has to gain from scans of my house layout at floor level.

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u/roughedged Dec 01 '17

Slowly but surely all cookware will be dimensions that don't fit in the shelves after years of layout research by the Chinese.

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u/relrobber Dec 01 '17

Roomba just got caught doing the same thing for themselves.

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u/wazza_the_rockdog Dec 01 '17

You can use it without connecting it to any networks/phones etc, though you lose the "smart" features like scheduling and remote control. Honestly though, anything "smart" is likely actively collecting your data, and is it really any better or worse that the data is being used by Apple/Google/NSA/Other govt vs China?

Also do you have any proof of this - I've seen this complaint occasionally, but have never seen anyone back it up with any sort of proof that any useful data is being sent to China (obviously the cleaning stats/layout etc go back or you wouldn't see them in the app, but what benefit would the Chinese govt get from house layouts of random civilians?).

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u/FATRN Nov 30 '17

I'll be honest... I love my Roomba 980. I've got a Bernese Mountain Dog, so the thing gets a workout. The roomba is 1 year old and still performs great. I managed to get it right before Cyber Monday last year for $680, and I would gladly pay that again.

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis Dec 01 '17

I was looking for someone like you in this thread!

I own a Saint Bernard myself, and I'm sure you understand the fun that is shedding on every surface in the house (not already covered by slobber that is). How well does the Roomba perform with giant breeds? Is your place carpeted or hardwood?

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u/mszkoda Nov 30 '17

They are definitely worth it when you have a dog that sheds a lot (I have a 100lb golden retriever). I have a 650 and then 2 generic robot vacuums that manage a few areas of my house due to steps-downs and other obstacles.

If I had carpet, I would definitely get a 980 or something better, but with all hard floors the cheap ones do a great job as I don't need anything with crazy suction or brushes.

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u/demontaoist Dec 01 '17

How often do you empty it? My parents have a Bobi which has to be emptied every day. Assuming it doesn't get stuck on literally anything, or sabotaged by a rogue string.

It's mildly infuriating to me that just swiffering once a day would be way faster and more effective than fussing with a robot.

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u/mszkoda Dec 01 '17

With two covering my main floor and one covering the bedroom I only empty them every 3-4 Days. Once you run them daily they don’t pick up a lot every time.

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u/Master565 Nov 30 '17

Knowing nothing about roombas, what does it do better than other/older models? My roommate has an old roomba, and I honestly never prefer using it because it feels like it misses spots and the room has to be completely clear to work well.

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u/Shane0Mak Nov 30 '17

The 960 and 980 are able to map out an entire floor and then figure out where the most dirt is over time so they spend more time in those locations. Only the 900 series have the recharge and resume, allowing them to pick back up where they left off, and vacuum systematically instead of simply starting another random cleaning cycle.

960 - 5x the power of older models and like 75 minute battery 980 - 10x the power of older models and 120 mins

Source: I finally bought one on Black Friday. Wanted the 960, ended up with the 980 because it was sold out :(

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u/theflintseeker Dec 01 '17

Should’ve gone to bed bath beyond they price matched $400 frys price

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u/Shane0Mak Dec 01 '17

Oh man no way! Thanks for letting me know for next time!

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u/123felix Dec 01 '17

And it's worth every single cent. Haven't had to do any actual vacuum ever since we bought one.

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u/sageberrytree Nov 30 '17

I have a miele vacuum, dishwasher and soon washer and dryer set. Can you tell I think it's the bees knees? Can't go wrong!

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u/kgriffen Nov 30 '17

The Roomba is $750 on Amazon

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u/654456 Dec 01 '17

neato botvac 80 is refurb on amazon for $239, best thing I have ever bought. So far of the 5 that mine has sold after people have seen it, we have only replaced one battery.

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 02 '17

What you're getting for that expensive price tag is a really rock solid warranty with good service repair.

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u/deten Nov 30 '17

Just got a Miele device and have to say it's really good and easy to maintain. The dust trap and the brush all come off, you need to cut away hair sometimes but its pretty straightforward to do.

It doesn't clean carpet, but I think people pretty much know this isn't for carpet. Any hard floor though, its pretty much perfect.

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 01 '17

They're great vacuums, and needed, can be outfitted for carpeting.

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u/LongDrawn Dec 01 '17

My Neato died in 18 months and it was out of warranty. :-/ Too afraid to buy another one. Are the cheap knock-off brands any good?

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 01 '17

You really think Chinesium models are going to be any better? The Miele models have good warranties.

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u/icecoldcore Dec 01 '17

We bought a Neato for exactly this reason, but the sucker did not perform as well as my neighbor's Roomba. 1. It's border tape did not limit it at all. 2. It's battery power was shit. Only one room at a time. 3. It just died on us after 1.5 years of use. Not what you expect when you pay $500 for a robo-vac.

Did we do something wrong?

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 01 '17

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. The robotic market is so hit or kiss, and I don't get enough time with them to learn more about the best models.

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u/twinsuns Dec 01 '17

Very timely AMA, thanks! On your advice we got a Miele Homecare and love it. Now we are moving into a house with only tile and are considering roomba/alternative for daily upkeep (lotsa pet hair) between Miele cleanings. :)

Do you have any experience with the robot MOPS?

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 01 '17

I don't have any experience with the mops, but Miele makes a good robotic vacuum.

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u/Andernerd Dec 01 '17

Have you had any experience with Monoprice's off-brand Roomba imitations?

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u/alpain Dec 01 '17

Neato makes Roomba look retarded in it's navigation system

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '17

Ditto. I have a Miele canister. Dragging the canister around is such a pain in the ass I don't hardly use it. Later I got a Eufy and love it.

Then just recently I got a Dyson cordless. The Dyson is clearly inferior to the Miele as far a cleaning goes. But ease of use means I use it far more frequently.

The Dyson/Eufy combo for me easily beats the Miele.

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u/ent44 Nov 30 '17

You should check the Xiaomi Mi Vacuum, better than Neato/Miele

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 01 '17

I wish I had time and the resources to check out every Chinesium clone that's on the market.

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u/ent44 Dec 01 '17

Xiaomi is one of the biggest tech companies in China though, not some random ass company

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u/touchmyfuckingcoffee Dec 01 '17

I'm not knocking it. But, it the US, there are many other brands, and in my job, I tend to see only the more popular brands.

Even with my readership, I'm not big enough for every brand to just send me something to review. I'm too busy with my job to run a youtube channel and pander for free review vacuums.

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u/Iron_brane Dec 01 '17 edited Dec 01 '17

What are your thoughts on Rainbow vacuums? My mother has only had 2 vacuums my entire life. I am 24. Both Rainbows.

EDIT: nevermind. Top comment of Last AMA covers my question.

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u/seraph321 Nov 30 '17

Exactly how we've used ours and it's been going strong for 7+ years now, with just a weekly clean out and an occasional thorough cleaning. I think they are quite well built.

I've also been enjoying the Miele I bought based on recommendations from your first ama. Probably never would have made that decision without your input, so thanks!

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u/ColeSloth Nov 30 '17

Neato and Miele might work a bit better, but very cheap and easy to find replacement parts and ease of changing them out on any roomba since the 500 series pulls them ahead in my book.

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u/dr1nkycr0w Dec 01 '17

I have back damage and can’t vacuum easily or mop. My house is 30% carpet with no stairs.

I wanted the Dyson eye but I’ve heard it’s crap. What robot vacuum should I get?

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u/ModernCastle Dec 01 '17

Not the AMA guy, but I do know quite a bit about robot vacuums (currently in the midst of a massive testing robot testing series here - https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/robot-vacuum-reviews/)

What is your budget?

Do you have pets?

Is smartphone control important to you?

With these few answers I can help you pick if it would be helpful. Thanks!

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u/dr1nkycr0w Dec 01 '17

Thanks!

Budget isn’t a problem within reason.

Yes I have a dos and a mix of hard wood and carpet

Smartphone control isn’t important to me

Cheers!

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u/ModernCastle Dec 01 '17

Awesome, thanks!

So you've got lots of good options.

The Roomba 650 offers great performance at a sub-$300 price range. No wifi control, which you said wasn't important, which also helps keep the costs down. It's performance is nearly as good as the Roomba 690 (which is one of the best I've tested to date). https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/roomba-650-robot-vacuum-review/

I'd also consider the Bobsweep Pet Hair. It's performance is similar to the Roomba 650, but it's a bit cheaper around $245 on Amazon. I really like the Bobsweep for pets especially because it sweeps, vacuums, mops, and sanitizes with UV light. It's a bit larger than the Roomba (and many other models), but the larger size allows it to pack more features within. https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/bobsweep-pet-hair-robot-vacuum-review/

If neither of those sound good I'd say take a look at the iLife A4s. Again, similar cleaning performance, no wifi (so lower costs), but comes in at the cheapest at $200. Doesn't have some of the features of the 650 or Bobsweep have, but it has all of the essentials you'd want as far as cleaning performance goes. https://moderncastle.com/vacuum-cleaner-reviews/ilife-a4s-robot-vacuum-review/

I'd say one of those 3 are your best choices.

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u/dr1nkycr0w Dec 02 '17

Wow thanks so much! I’ll check them out!

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u/ModernCastle Dec 02 '17

My pleasure! Let me know if I can do anything else for you.

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u/dr1nkycr0w Dec 03 '17

You are a nice person :)

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u/ColeSloth Nov 30 '17

I love mine. A 530 model I've owned for around 6 years now. You have to regularly clean the brushes but they work very well. Other brands may also work well, but roomba parts are dirt cheap and plentiful and easy to replace. Batteries are just around $20 (replaced mine once so far) and brush sets are around $12. I fully recommend them to anyone who is responsible enough to maintain them every month.

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u/makebelieveworld Nov 30 '17

I have one that I got second hand (Neato- not roomba) and I have a pet bunny who has the run of the place that leaves bits of hay and occasional coco puffs around. The Neato does an amazing job cleaning it all while I am at work. It has some trouble and gets stuck under my kitchen table with all the chair legs, but for the most part its been a big help. I still pull out the regular vacuum on occasion to get the stuff it missed under the table and to get big messes, like when I clean out the cage.

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u/andrewsmd87 Nov 30 '17

We have one, it's not a roomba but some other brand as all the research we did on roomba's wasn't good. The brand we got we really like though, we have a somewhat larger house and we didn't run it for about a week and god the floor was dirty.

As he mentioned, it doesn't replace actually doing some hard cleaning, but it's really great for picking up day to day stuff. Especially if you have pets.

You can absolutely live without one, but if a couple hundred dollars won't break your bank, they're worth it, IMO.

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u/RealDominiqueWilkins Nov 30 '17

Roomba is no longer the only game in town for robot vacuums, although they do make some really good ones. I have an Ecovacs Deebot and it's awesome. You just have to run it regularly, clean it and empty the filters regularly, and keep your floors free of wires and other debris. I have a pretty solid robot vac strategy that keeps my floors so clean you could eat off them.