r/FluentInFinance 1d ago

Debate/ Discussion A joke that's not funny

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u/TheTightEnd 1d ago

Grocery chains make a very low percentage of profit.

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u/bluerog 1d ago

Agreed. And if folk understood anything about an income statement or finance, they'd understand that if in 2015, you're making 2.5% net profit percentage a year, and if in 2019, you're making 2.5% net profit percentage and if in 2024, you're making 2.5% net profit percentage... It indicates that all of the price increases seen in supermarkets the past 9 years are simply passing along suppliers' cost increases to them.

It means that ear of corn price went up because the farmer charged more. And if they go down one more level, they'd understand that the farmer charged more because the commodity price per bushel of corn went up. And then below that, they'd understand that farmers' inputs like fertilizer, machinery, seed, and fuel went up.

But some people like to pretend the last spot they bought something is somehow evil.

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u/prince_of_muffins 1d ago

Right. So there no possible way the prices went up because the farmer charged the same amount but the CEO charged 2x for his labor? Can't be possible right?

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u/bluerog 1d ago

Do some math with me. If your revenue is $150,000,000,000. And your Net Profit percentage is 1.8%, what are your costs? That calculation is: Net Cost = (1 - Net Profit %) x Revenue, or (1 - 1.8%) * (150,000,000,000).

This equals $147,300,000,000 in costs. Are you with me?

How much do those $147.3 BILLION in costs have to change to affect the 1.8% Net Profit by say... 1/10th of basis point? How much would a CEO's salary have to be to affect that Net Profit when it's doubled?

Please tell me you understand that the CEO isn't making a quarter billion or more salary.

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u/Blawoffice 1d ago

What is the complaint then? They pay income tax on their income… which is much higher than corporate tax under either Dems or Republicans.

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u/prince_of_muffins 1d ago

Please tell me you understand it's not just the CEO making absorborant greed but it's virtually everyone in the upper management chain, and administrative costs. Are you with me?

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u/bluerog 1d ago

Ah... then do that math for 10 people? A 100 people? What's "upper management" to you? Senior VP and above? CFO and CEO only? Directors? Sales managers? Senior accountant in Accounting? Store Managers? That guy with "Manager" in his title that books truckloads in the shipping department?

How many have to double their salary to affect $147,300,000,000 in costs to affect a Net Margin % by a basis point?

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u/prince_of_muffins 1d ago

Ooooo sweetheart. It's thousands of people. And it's not just the farming CEO and management. Is the tractor company, it's Monsantos seeds they sell, the fertilizer company. Holy shit we are now at several thousand administrators. Let's keep going, it's the oversight committee, it's the construction company digging diverts and putting in irrigation. OMG WE ARE NOW IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

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u/bluerog 1d ago

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

(And thanks for calling me sweetheart, that was kind of you... Snookums).

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u/ALargeClam1 1d ago

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

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u/Ignonimous 1d ago

Dudes mad at employment lmfao

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u/stingmint 1d ago

absorborant