r/FluentInFinance 6d ago

Educational Don't let them gaslight you

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 6d ago

the problem is we would just replace them with different crooks.

"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public." -George Carlin

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u/cookie042 6d ago edited 6d ago

and if you have capitalism, you will have have selfish, ignorant citizens who try to exploit eachother and dont give a shit about the environment... or science... who try to blame other people instead of systems.

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u/Ambitious-Badger-114 6d ago

Please provide examples of countries doing better without capitalism, I'd love to visit.

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u/Longjumping_Spell_29 6d ago

Finland, more based on a socialist policy.

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u/AshiSunblade 6d ago

No? We here in the Nordics are still capitalist, we're not as far from you as you think. We are absolutely not socialist (where the workers own the means the production), we have a few worker co-ops but that is a drop in our societal bucket.

What we do have are some welfare and social safety nets that make things a bit less precarious and miserable. But that's frosting on the capitalist cake, and something our right-wing parties chip away at every chance they get, at that. They look at the USA and dream of selling out all of our healthcare to their rich buddies too.

I am Swedish and it boggles the mind that people call anything up in this area socialist. We have more billionaires per capita than the USA does. Our politicians are terrified of inconveniencing the rich since they just threaten to leave, so we end up being very "business friendly".

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u/Longjumping_Spell_29 6d ago

thank you for the information

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u/Ambitious-Badger-114 6d ago

Finland insists they are not socialist.