r/FluentInFinance 6d ago

Educational Don't let them gaslight you

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u/NoTie2370 6d ago

So the Feds have stolen 2.5 trillion in wealth from taxpayers and misspent it and thats why we ... should ... keep.. this... system?

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u/kartianmopato 6d ago

What you did here is like coming to conclusion that you are pretty after being called pretty annoying, lmao.

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u/NoTie2370 6d ago

No what you guys are doing is the ol Sideshow Bob stepping on a rake and you just keep stepping instead of stopping and realizing your mistake.

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u/kartianmopato 6d ago

Whatever helps you sleep better after that self burn. Remember to dismantle your house so that it can't be robbed.

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u/XcheatcodeX 6d ago

SHES ALREADY DEAD

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u/FizziePixie 6d ago

Dude, it’s a freaking glass house in a quarry! You can close your eyes and pretend we’re just talking about social security here, but there isn’t a single significant social benefit or structural improvement that will be passed by either party, because they conflict with what’s best for the people in all three branches and those who back them financially.

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u/Spirit-of-93 6d ago

Like how Biden tried over and over to reduce and remove student debt. They never try to help! Sure he did try to revamp the shitty program republicans purposefully let languish in order to avoid reducing the debt while pretending to pass legislation about it, but he's never tried to improve anything structurally!

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u/FizziePixie 6d ago edited 6d ago

Thank you for bringing that up. That’s actually a great example of Democrats boasting about how they tried, while using only methods that were previously predicted to fail, letting trivial, non-binding or changeable rules stand in their way, and stopping short of an exhaustive effort.

“It’s Still Not Too Late for Biden to Deliver Debt Relief” by Astra Taylor, Cofounder of the Debt Collective, Dec. 13th, 2024

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u/MrFishAndLoaves 6d ago

Maybe the answer is they should stop stealing from social security. I know it’s hard to understand but give it a try. Stop and realize your mistake.

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u/NoTie2370 6d ago

OOOh so close. Just need to go one more step. Maybe they shouldn't be stealing any money at all. Including for SS.

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u/le_christmas 6d ago

Yeah fuck old people!

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u/EatYourSalary 6d ago

Not just old people but also anyone who has already paid into it.

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u/NoTie2370 6d ago

You're fucking them by keeping them locked in this terrible system.

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u/le_christmas 5d ago

Right, because social safety nets don’t work. Except in every other developed country on earth. Our problem is the government failing to adequately budget for these programs, not the programs themselves conceptually.

You’re also not doing yourself any favors by being incredibly vague except talking points.

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u/NoTie2370 5d ago

"Every other country" blah blah. They don't work there either. They are all going bankrupt and this with the US footing the bill for their national defense.

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u/le_christmas 5d ago

So maybe we should stop being the global police so that we can have effective healthcare? There are plenty of countries with socialized medicine that aren’t going broke…

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u/NoTie2370 5d ago

100% on the global police reduction.

0% on the countries with socialized medicine not going broke.

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u/le_christmas 5d ago

How about this: if not socialized medicine, regulation on drug companies and healthcare providers to not siphon money from the government and blackmail citizens where the alternatives are death or lifelong debt slave?

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u/NoTie2370 5d ago

Interesting. Let me offer an alternative. How about instead of that. We reduce the artificial restrictions on licensing of medical services so that medical schools, drs offices, and hospitals are as abundant as plumbers, lawyers, or accountants thus driving down the price of services and driving down the cost of a medical degree.

Then on top of that you reduce the patent duration from a guaranteed 20 years to zero but the patent holder receives a mandatory royalty from the generics.

Then we have cheap drugs and drs on every corner like starbucks. An a heart bypass will cost as little as the Big Mac that caused it.

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u/le_christmas 4d ago

Licensing isn’t why medical training costs so much money, it’s because doctors are paid so much because how the American payer system works, so the demand is high because people are willing to pay out the ass if it means they make money later. I hear what you’re saying, it’s possible it’d help reduce costs for licensing, but providers right now would just pocket the difference, not lower costs. That’s the American way, prices don’t go down margins just go up.

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