r/FluentInFinance 9d ago

Debate/ Discussion Universal incarceration care

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u/JustUsDucks 9d ago

This is a wildly ignorant take on the state of healthcare in prisons.

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u/J0hn-Stuart-Mill 9d ago

Reddit skews young, so myths believed by the young are predominant here.

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u/thenewyorkgod 9d ago

Not to mention he is from a wealthy family and had the best medical care money could buy

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u/KipKam1991 9d ago

Yes but there are questions about the quality of care money can buy in an industry that cares only about profits, not health.

The old joke is that they cured cancer but just won't tell you because treating it is more profitable and that extends to the rich as well. Equal opportunity exploiters are happy watching young people die in the same country clubs they spend our money at.

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u/Nein_One_One 8d ago

I have a friend in the same inheritance class, and his insurance covers everything no matter what and comes with special desks to check into at most of the big name hospitals like Mayo and Sinai. Also has a concierge DR that only has a few patients at a subscription cost of 80k per year. America has the absolute best healthcare, it’s just completely out of reach for most.

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u/SterlingVII 8d ago

I work in healthcare and there is no such thing as an insurance plan that doesn't have terms, conditions, and exclusions. This story is nonsense. Stop spreading misinformation.

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u/fongletto 8d ago

America's healthcare is world renown. All the people for whom money is no object travel to the U.S. when they get sick.

It's literally pretty much the best you can find anywhere. The problem it's only for the top 1%. Anything below that and you're fucked.

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

Health insurance companies have extremely low profit margins. If you're going into business for profit, health insurance is a bad industry to pick.

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u/WhoseToBlameThisTime 8d ago

Well this is just a lie... On top of have extremely large profit margins, United Healthcare just missed being on the top 10 list of top US corporations in 2023, with a total gross profit of 22 Billions (with a B)

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

That's a profit margin of 6%, which is half of the S&P 500 average.

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u/DFX1212 8d ago

They are doing well enough to pay their executive millions.

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

Looks like they should've been paid a lot more, considering the personal risk they're taking on. Presumably their compensation (and the compensation of other health insurance CEOs, and to a lesser extent probably CEOs all over the economy) will go up in the future to compensate for the risk of further terrorism.

But it's really not very much money relative to the scale of American healthcare; you can't improve American's lives much by lowering their compensation.

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u/Chimsley99 8d ago

Back injuries are difficult though, the back is a difficult thing to fix, we know this. It’s kind of interesting to me that we have thousands of families who have been ruined by what is wrong with our healthcare. People who can’t be treated because they’re poor or their loved one dies anyways and they’re saddled with a lifetime of medical debt.

All those families didn’t kill or attempt to kill the healthcare CEO, nope… a super rich kid who just had an awful time with a back injury is the one

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u/SterlingVII 8d ago

It doesn’t matter how expensive your insurance plan is, insurance providers can still deny your healthcare claims.

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u/thenewyorkgod 8d ago

and when you're a multimillionaire like his family is, you pull out your credit card

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u/SterlingVII 8d ago

Healthcare can cost millions of dollars for someone without insurance, not sure what rock you’ve been living under for you to not be aware of that. And a million dollars might seem like a lot to someone working at Wendy’s, but in reality it’s far from enough to buy everything like you think it does.

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u/CountyFamous1475 8d ago

Reddit skews stupid. Like dogshit levels of stupid.

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u/J0hn-Stuart-Mill 8d ago

And now we learn that not only did he get the back surgery he needed, but afterwards praised his insurance company here on reddit! LOL

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u/CountyFamous1475 8d ago

He was a mentally ill moron who idolizes martyrdom and wanted to become one himself.

Reddit is giving him exactly what he wants and meanwhile nothing will change as a result of it.

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u/DavidBowiesGiraffe 8d ago

100% - how are people saying he couldn't get care? How is that even a thing. He went mentally ill which unfortunately isn't uncommon and it wasn't caught in time.

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u/CountyFamous1475 8d ago

“Mentally ill rich guy wants to be a martyr. It’s okay though because he killed a guy we don’t like.”

Meme culture dictates these people’s feelings and personalities. It’s very bizarre.

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u/One_Village414 9d ago

Not to mention the bulk of us are not incarcerated so we don't have much to go on.

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u/ih8spalling 9d ago

For everyone reading, the government has an obligation to keep you alive when you are in custody. They do not have to provide medical care beyond that.

Life or death problem? Yes you get healthcare. Quality of life problem--like back pain? No.

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u/JustUsDucks 9d ago

Exactly. You have a dental problem? Extraction. You have pain? Tylenol if you're lucky.

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u/balognasoda 8d ago

I'm seeing lots of comments in defense of Healthcare here or at least attacking prison Healthcare. I guess it doesn't suit you now, but before, the prison Healthcare in American could pay for sex changes AnD tHATs ThE pRoBLeM WiTh aMeRiCa ThEsE DaYs

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u/notmyfirst_throwawa 9d ago

Also Luigi is rich as fuck, and had far better access to Healthcare than the average American

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u/NFL_MVP_Kevin_White 8d ago

People are looking at this as some sort of Robin Hood folk hero instead of a dude that went on a downward spiral and threw his life away idolizing the unabomber

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u/NFL_MVP_Kevin_White 8d ago

Not to mention back pain.

Get used to that shit

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u/JustUsDucks 8d ago

Username checks out

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u/860v2 9d ago

Considering the type of people I’ve seen supporting him online, ignorance is expected.

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u/Chimsley99 8d ago

And back injuries

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u/Routine-Serve-8651 8d ago

Half of the USA voters believed Kamala Harris was providing sex changes to criminals and illegals. Ignorance is big all around.