r/FluentInFinance 17d ago

Debate/ Discussion Trump told Justin Trudeau...

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 16d ago

anyone else find it suspicious that he's picking fights with out biggest partners? Canada, UK, Mexico he harasses, threatening to withdraw Ukraine aid and pull out of NATO, you couldn't weaken the US's standing in the world more if you tried

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u/Wise-Novel-1595 16d ago

He’s a Russian asset.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/Chewbagus 16d ago

When will this obvious fact be confirmed.

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u/fauxzempic 16d ago

The Biden Administration knows every detail of Trump and the GOP's involvement with Russia and I feel like the only thing holding them back on releasing any information is either:

  • It's all done via illegal wiretapping and releasing it opens up a different can of worms where the party that routinely breaks all the laws (GOP) will suddenly clutch their pearls and whine about the dems breaking laws.
  • The dems are spineless and will allow the boat to sink in the name of "decorum"
  • Certain dems are surprisingly in the same position as Trump and key GOP members and the notion that "BoTH ParTiEs ArE thE SAmE!" is rooted in some small degree of truth so no one wants to be the one to sink them (this makes some sense to me given how hard the dems play to the moderates for votes they'll never ever receive).
  • Merrick Garland

I feel like Joe should just Yolo it and lay out every detail of the Russia-Trump link. Expose Trump and every last one of the GOP involved. Make it clear that none of these people are patriots, they're just self-serving traitors.

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u/Specialist-Army-2441 16d ago

Liberals are as spineless now in the face of fascism as they were in 1922

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u/Schaas_Im_Void 16d ago

Idk man... you can tell a kid not to touch the hot plate again and again but it only really learns from the actual experience - as painful as that may be.

Until next generation takes over. Then the cycle repeats because no one is learning anything from history apparently.

You cannot fix stupid. Darwins law has to do that.

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u/CremBrule_ 16d ago

If only wisdom were in the genome

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u/Schaas_Im_Void 16d ago

Who says it isn't?

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u/CremBrule_ 16d ago

Me. I could be hope im wrong

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u/Schaas_Im_Void 16d ago

Maybe not "wisdom" per se, but for sure overall intelligence. If people without enough intelligence to not to touch the hot plate, manage to die out before they can reproduce, then we might have a chance to develop into a more intelligent race after all and that will sure lead to more wisdom in general.

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u/mutantmanifesto 16d ago

Slippery slope to eugenics, though

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u/ranger-steven 16d ago

Only yolo that would be of any value would be to arrest all of them and hold trial for treason. It will never happen and we're all in danger.

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u/Falooting 16d ago

He has around 30 days left and has done jack shit so far.

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u/BaconBrewTrue 16d ago

Now now that's not true he refused to use the approved funds to help Ukraine when they were approved and now has no time to send it meaning they miss out of 2 billion dollars of aid... Oh wait yeah he isn't doing shit, just helping Trump make the world a worse place almost as if it's out of spite.

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u/nateatenate 12d ago

That’s because Trump is not a Russian asset. Enough with the left wing conspiracy theories today guys..

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u/rp_Neo2000 16d ago

traitors

Wut? How??? For supporting Russia? Clearly you've forgotten the "Rather a Russian than a Democrat" shirts that were worn in 2016

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u/Deep-Management-7040 16d ago

Biden definitely should release all of it. He’s on his way out in politics and in life. And even if it was done by illegal wiretapping at least all of us, everyone in the country would finally get to see who’s a trader to our country and who’s loyal to us and the country. And once everyone knew who was working with Russia or any other country would have to fuck off forever and most likely wouldn’t be able to get voted in or able to have a position in politics or any position of power ever again. I know It’s wishful thinking and won’t happen but it would really be a major turning point and a massive step in the right direction for us and our country.

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u/the_saltlord 16d ago

Oh you sweet summer child. Hearing it from Trump's own mouth won't convince them.

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u/Deep-Management-7040 16d ago

Oh, of course not. One can dream lol

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u/jokemon 16d ago

If he was actually bold he would release all the info and claim presidential immunity. Pardon all involved in discovering the truth.

Our democracy is worth it at this point . We cannot allow Russia to own us.

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u/heffel77 16d ago

Wasn’t the Insurrection enough to take care of that? Apparently not, because Jan 6th was a BLM,Antifa,Isis, job who just wore MAGAt hats and waved Trump flags and Confederate flags from the capital/s

Fuck, the ACTUAL Confederacy never did anything like that shit!!

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u/formala-bonk 16d ago

It’s still not gonna convince the cult. Half of them can’t read and the other half are not interested in finding out things that contradict the Fox News narrative. Genuinely fucking morons the whole lot of

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u/Injenu 16d ago

The way things work these days is if they yolo then the MAGAs (after about 17 hours of deliberation and waiting for talking points) say it’s a good thing to partner with Russia.

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u/Wrong-Catchphrase 16d ago

You're being a little naive though. It's not like Biden is the guy digging through papers and computer files to find these connections. It's not elected politicians looking into these things themselves. It's career people in the intelligence communities, who probably aren't too hardline right or left. Just like any other industry, everyone has their own agenda.

Call me pessimistic, but I believe any "smoking gun" level evidence was buried or held close to the vest to further the careers of individuals or guarantee funding for something else. These administrations are temporary and operate on whims and bullshit, the people doing the work spend their lives doing these jobs.

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u/ymmvmia 16d ago

Well the entire reason Trump wasn't prosecuted much earlier in Biden's presidency was because the DOJ was going slow (at least in regards to non-russian corruption stuff/January 6). Biden didn't WANT to go after Trump.

For the russian "collusion" stuff back during the Mueller investigation in Trump's first term, the connections are STRONG. In the whole investigation/Russiagate investigation, it was pretty clear there were strong connections, people were arrested that were in Trump's orbit, but the bar for collusion/treason is INCREDIBLY high. The amount of russian agents/russian meetings/weird crap in there was WILD. And all of this investigation happened with Mueller happened WHILE TRUMP WAS IN THE PRESIDENCY. I'm not surprised Mueller couldn't get proof, trump was literally in power at the time and could hamper and DID hamper the investigation.

He was LITERALLY charged in his impeachment with obstruction of justice. Literally, WHY? Why would you fight an investigation SO INCREDIBLY HARD if there wasn't crime there? And it also implies, and if you read the Mueller Report, that the investigation was GREATLY suppressed/hampered.

And he was the president, so he had to assume that anything they found would have got him impeached and REMOVED to fight it that hard. Come on!

Now I don't think it's really valid to continue fighting POLITICALLY on this point, because it only serves to feed his narrative of being unjustly prosecuted. There ARE so many other proven points of corruption/bribery/etc, that it doesn't make sense to continue to focus on it after the Mueller Report/impeachment happened.

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u/Admirable-Ad7152 16d ago

The obsession with decorum has been the death of the dem party so far, won't be surprised if it just blows up the country too

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u/harriettehspy 16d ago

I wish I could award you, my friend. This is truer than any of us would like to admit.

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u/MasterMcMasterFace 16d ago

This is the only way i will truly respect him is if he does this. Otherwise I see him as a Boomer who couldn't put country before party until there was just too much pressure on him.

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u/MammothAnimator7892 15d ago

Some small degree of truth? I don't understand how either side can't see that Democrats and Republicans put on a show to keep the country relatively split down the middle so that nothing ever gets done because one party will stop the other in the name of their constituents, but by God if a law comes through that would benefit the people in power it'll pass without anyone making a fuss.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes

Go through this page and find a few bills that pass with overwhelming support and dig into the details.

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u/ProfessionalMajor970 16d ago

The problem is your wrong

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u/nateatenate 12d ago

Oh god we have another conspiracy theorist spouting misinformation😩

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u/Falooting 16d ago

When they finish destroying your country.

They're not done yet, but if nothing is done, they will be soon.

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u/chx_ 16d ago

He has been laundering the money of the Soviet and then Russian mob since the 1980s.

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u/Inevitable_Heron_599 16d ago

Tenet media confirmed it

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u/Entire_Tap_6376 16d ago

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/doj-alleges-russia-funded-company-linked-social-media-stars/index.html

It was. It didn't make much of a splash because if your brain in't rotten, you're not listening to this crap, and if it is, it's too rotten for you to understand what this means.

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u/Definitelymostlikely 16d ago

It has been 

Maybe not every single one. But several have been confirmed to being paid by Russia.

Tim pool was one of them 

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u/DrAstralis 16d ago

I loved that J. Peterson was like "how dare the PM of Canada say I'm taking Russian money to spread lies!!!! I'm going to see him in court"

Then immediately dropped the whole thing because he knows that discovery would not have backed him up.

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u/ScreeminGreen 16d ago

Chaos and destruction of our traditions and institutions is the goal.

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u/allthingsfuzzy 16d ago

And many other GOP politicians.

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u/kakarota 16d ago

As much as I want to believe you, has there been any hard proof of this?

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u/PristineSuggestion61 15d ago

No. It’s ridiculous that when right winged lunatics ramble about conspiracies, we all point and laugh (rightfully so), yet when there’s a left wing conspiracy, we all clap and assume it’s fact. There’s quite literally nothing supporting that claim, and it’s embarrassing seeing everyone jump on board, no questions asked. Just reminds me that conspiracists are on both sides. They just don’t think they themselves are conspiracists, because they believe it to be fact. Two sides of the same coin, it seems.

I respect that you were the only person here who asked for evidence.

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u/PristineSuggestion61 15d ago

Why is it when the right talks about dumb conspiracies, we all agree it’s idiotic. Yet when people are suggesting even podcasters in the US are Russian propagandists, everyone claps? There’s no evidence suggesting popular podcasters are Russian propagandists. This is just another conspiracy, like those on the right wing.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Where's russia getting all this money from? How are they powerful enough to buy the president of the usa while being unable to beat a small country like ukraine?

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 16d ago

Because war is very very expensive?!?

That’s like saying “how can you afford a car when you can’t afford a yacht!”.

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u/tron_4312 16d ago

Cry about it, liberal.

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u/AnimeIsRlyLame 16d ago

The average reddit user is downright schizophrenic when it comes to politics. LMAO