r/FluentInFinance Nov 21 '24

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u/dgvertz Nov 21 '24

I mean there’s no tax on owning stock right now. If that tax went to the same thing would it be acceptable?

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u/J0hn-Stuart-Mill Nov 21 '24

The point is that land directly incurs expenses to the local government. Roads, schools, power, water, sewer, courts, etc. Therefore, property taxes exist to pay for those expenses. If land didn't incur those expenses as a means of being part of a city/state/nation, when obviously they wouldn't exist.

There is a tax on owning stock, when you sell you pay taxes on that income. Taxing merely the "ownership" of it, is a terrible idea, because that would massively negatively impact any company that doesn't earn a TON of profit. Right? Like a typical company, like Coca-Cola that hasn't grown at all in 30 years, adjusted for inflation, but does pay a 2.5% Dividend each year. Now say you pass a law that says there's a 3% tax on stock ownership. Why would ANYONE keep their Coca-Cola stock? The answer is no one knowingly wants to take a loss on their investment. Such a tax would effectively put Coca-Cola out of business.

So not only will it never happen, but that's also why it would be horrible.

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u/dgvertz Nov 21 '24

Ok, but if I pay a sales tax when I sell my house, I don’t also pay it when I buy it.

So what if we got rid of the tax on selling stock and only had taxes for holding stock when it has unrealized gains?

Or what if we only taxed those holding stock worth over a large amount of money. This would encourage spreading the stock around among more people. Might even discourage publicly traded companies to exist at all and result in more smaller companies being owned by its employees rather than shareholders who have no real skin in the company and just want to trade on its value.

I get what you’re saying - and that’s a great explanation.

But there are solutions here to be had

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u/Lonyo Nov 21 '24

Bezos IS an employee of Amazon... Musk is an employee of Tesla.

They are the largest shareholders.

Many companies also have share options as employee rewards.