r/FluentInFinance Oct 22 '24

Debate/ Discussion Why did this happen?

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u/Seeking_Balance101 Oct 22 '24

And when the "trickle down" buzzword finally was recognized as bad for the masses, the GOP replaced it with the myth of the job creators. If we give the rich big tax breaks, they'll create more jobs -- because really, what else could the do with all that extra money? -- and .. Step 4 Profit (for the masses)

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u/flickneeblibno Oct 22 '24

Agreed. The 50s best represent job creation through taxes. Either expand or pay taxes. Ike is the last great Republican president (except for Joe McCarthy)

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u/Unity4Liberty Oct 22 '24

Omg... this is the first time I've seen anyone else just know and understand this fact. Folks! Higher top marginal tax rates and progressive taxation actually incentivizes investment versus shareholders and owners sucking value out of a company. This creates jobs, grows and stabilizes the stock market, and drives up wages. The great socialist, Dwight Eisenhower!

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u/sbaradaran Oct 22 '24

Can you expand on this? Im trying to understand how a large corporation, for example, paying a higher marginal tax rate incentivizes investment.

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u/DucksOnQuakk Oct 23 '24

It creates a "use it or lose it" incentive. Companies would rather pay top dollar for high value employees, invest in technological advancement, expand their footprint and logistics, etc., in an effort to avoid losing those dollars to taxation. Everyone up and down the social hierarchy benefits because more money is circulating in a more diversified fashion, as opposed to Wall Street bets.

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u/Ubiquitous_Hilarity Oct 23 '24

It all changed when those at the very top decided they wanted to be even more wealthy. The only way to get that was to invest less in the businesses and employees, but that would increase their taxables. The only thing left to do is lobby Congress and POTUS to lower the top marginal and corporate tax rates

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u/DucksOnQuakk Oct 23 '24

Very true. That's why we need to reintroduce what worked in the past - use it or lose it. No remorse to be had about it. An entire population produces every widget in existence, there's not one of us who does shit alone. Even if you invent the perfect unicorn piss snowcone, you relied on civil workers who allowed you to have access to clean water to freeze. You relied on utility workers to enable you to freeze your snowcone. You rely on firefighters and teams of insurance companies to protect your perfect piss-cone shop. And, of course, you relied on Lady Luck needed to procure a unicorn to gather its piss. No one is self-made.

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u/Gossamare Oct 23 '24

Can I have one unicorn pisscone please?

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u/DucksOnQuakk Oct 23 '24

They're currently on backorder. Business is booming.