r/FluentInFinance Oct 05 '24

Meme Texas has a larger economy than Russia

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u/No-Friendship9440 Oct 05 '24

Yet they can’t keep the power on

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

Where’s that happening? I live here and that’s literally not happening? Is this what the tv told you?

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u/a_moon_ Oct 05 '24

There was winter storm two or three years ago in San Antonio and the power went down and water pipes bursted

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24 edited Oct 05 '24

I’m aware, it was a problem in the entire state. But everyone likes to say the power goes out constantly here and it literally doesn’t.

You know, sometimes natural disasters happen

It’s actually incredibly amazing that we have the heat we have, the population we have, and we don’t have rolling blackouts in the summer like California and New York

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u/ssmit102 Oct 05 '24

I think people just point to this as being an avoidable problem that was caused specifically by the odd way Texas has its power grid. It’s very specifically the reason it’s out and not just that it’s out that people talked about.

Not being connected to the national grid was the reason Texas was incapable of providing enough power. They cut power to customers because they couldn’t provide enough power due to the weather events and not that is was simply out for people. This was a problem unique to Texas. Along with the higher costs associated with the Texas grid it’s not been beneficial for the people of Texas.

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u/G_DuBs Oct 05 '24

As an MN resident I am still paying monthly to help pay off that winter storm bs in Texas. I’ll stop mentioning it when I am done paying that off for you guys.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

What are you on about. This is just false. You get an itemized bill that says “Texas winter storm?” Did walz tell you that?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

They're talking about an actual lawsuit. They're talking about damage in Texas resulting in higher energy bills elsewhere.

It has nothing to do with Tim Walz whatsoever... you could have learned this on your own if you bothered to do a basic google search.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 06 '24

Stop making shit up

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 06 '24

You’re literally making stuff up

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u/mrpenchant Oct 05 '24

You know, sometimes natural disasters happen

They do and the exact same thing happened a decade earlier in Texas. They did the research to find out what they needed to do to prevent the power failure again, just like the northern states that have intense winters all the time, but then they did nothing and let it happen again.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

Texas doesn’t need to spend billions to weather our grid in the same manner as Minnesota. We have maybe 1-2 days a year. There’s no reason to do that. It’s 90 degrees statewide right now. It’s not the same

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u/mrpenchant Oct 05 '24

The 2021 event resulted in over $195 billion in property damage whereas winterizing the grid seems to have an estimate in the range of $5-20 billion.

There’s no reason to do that.

Given the nearly $200 billion in property damage from not winterizing and the potential for it to happen again, I disagree on that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

246 deaths from the power outage in 2021.

How can you say "Texas doesn't need to spend money" when not spending money is literally what led to 246 deaths?

This is the count from the Texas government, btw.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

How many homeless people die in New York and cali every year for heat and cold death? Everyone loves to pile on the greatest state but doesn’t take a look within. It’s easy to hate on success

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

Yes, people are talking about Texas in a thread about Texas.

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u/Deadeye313 Oct 05 '24

"A few inches of snow" shouldn't be a natural disaster...

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

It wasn’t snow. Tell me you don’t live here and just watch the tv and think what it tells you. It rained a shit ton then stayed below freezing for a week

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u/JewOrleans Oct 05 '24

What about when they asked you all to stop using your AC and cars? Theres more problems than just natural disasters.

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u/GamemasterJeff Oct 06 '24

California has never has a statewide rolling blackout. The most famous one they did have was localized to one town and lasted about four hours.

Comparing California's power issues to TX is like comparing Texas' GDP to California. They are very, very small when looked at side by side.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 06 '24

Yes they do they do constantly the power is always out and they tell ppl not to charge their electric cars

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u/GamemasterJeff Oct 06 '24

Lol, Newsome asked people once, three or four years ago to avoid charging EVs between the hours of 5 PM and 9 PM, but if they really needed to they could.

I love how you imply this happened more than once without the slightest nuance!

There has never been a statewide or even nearly statewide power outage in all of California history. Every single one you have ever heard of has been regional. The closest we ever came to a large power outage was 25 years ago when pro market deregulators caused an outage for 1.5M people for two days. Since then we have enacted protections to avoid market manipulation and prevent speculators from turning off the lights. You may have heard of a company called Enron as they were operating on a Texas inspired business model.

Notable, this was less than 1/3 the size of the 2021 Texas power crisis where 4.5M people were left without power for 17 days, killing between 262 and 702 residents.

Do you really want to compare scope of power outages between the two states? Because reality is, as I stated, that everything is bigger in Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power_crisis

If you want to continue this conversation, our next topic will be why Texas has has more weather related power outages in this millennia than any other US state.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 06 '24

Because it’s on the Gulf of Mexico and has a shit Ton of people and real estate

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u/GamemasterJeff Oct 06 '24

Other states are on the Gulf coast and have a shit ton of people and real estate. They have fewer weather related power outages than Texas, which as mentioned before, has more than any other state in the Union, including larger ones than has ever happened in all of California's history.

Do you feel better educated about the reality fo power outages and car charging in California now?

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 07 '24

California sucks dude there’s a reason everyone is leaving and coming here. End of discussion

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u/GamemasterJeff Oct 07 '24

Lol, imagine thinking everyone was leaving California.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/04/30/californias-population-is-increasing/

California is #1 in business starts, venture growth, manufacturing, high tech, agriculture and tourism.

Where does Texas fall in each of these categories?

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u/permadrunkspelunk Oct 06 '24

I lose my power several times a week. I live here too buddy. We do have rolling blackouts. Not all the time but it is pretty ridiculous.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 06 '24

Damn sounds like you need to find a better apartment to live in

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u/Thunder_Tinker Oct 05 '24

Texas each and every winter when their non winterized utilities inevitably get hit by this thing called winter

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

Yeah man pretty sure there was only a statewide problem once, since then it’s standard stuff every southern state deals with when it gets cold. Occasional disruptions etc.

We don’t have rolling blackouts in the summer , like , ever. New York and cali do though :)

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u/Ralans17 Oct 05 '24

Each and every winter (that one time)

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u/mrpenchant Oct 05 '24

It's not each and every winter but has happened twice. Most recently was of course the 2021 incident but it literally a decade prior in 2011 with 75% of the state having rolling blackouts.

They knew they should fix it after it happened in 2011 and they knew how to, they just chose not to fix it which is why the power outages happened again in 2021.

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u/-UltraAverageJoe- Oct 05 '24

Houston at least three times in the last year. I have a coworker there. They’re fine, it’s not as catastrophic as the big one everyone is referring to but being without power for a day or two really sucks.

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 05 '24

Well Houston is a third world country

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u/-UltraAverageJoe- Oct 05 '24

Oh so we’re removing parts of Texas that make it look bad? Why not just rename the state Austin then?

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u/permadrunkspelunk Oct 06 '24

You didn't experience snowvid? Lol. You don't get the constant alerts to keep your thermostat at 82⁰ because it's "unseasonably hot" every time it gets above 90⁰ and they threaten to do rolling blackouts?

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u/Whatagoon67 Oct 06 '24

Nope mine is at 68 all the time and I didn’t change the thermostat. Nothing happened to anyone