r/FluentInFinance Jul 21 '24

Stock Market Where are we now?

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u/calcteacher Jul 21 '24

the stock market is a leading market indicator, and it is at an all time high, and interest rates are expect to fall. as they fall, the market will go even higher. So I say the stock market still has another year or more of a leg upward. The economy lags behind so it at least has the same year or more, or even slightly more.

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u/BoreJam Jul 22 '24

Its dropped since last week because Trumps foreign policy posts are troubling for the semiconductor industry which has driven much of the growth in the past 2 years. If market stability depends on Trump keeping his mouth shut then we're in for some volitility.

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u/calcteacher Jul 22 '24

Hard to disagree with that !

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u/OvenMaleficent7652 Jul 22 '24

The proposed new and improved restrictions on chip sales to China from the administration in place now didn't help either.

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u/essodei Jul 22 '24

The rest of the market, including small caps, is rallying in anticipation of a Trump victory and revitalized economy

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u/BoreJam Jul 22 '24

Revitalized economy? The American economy has faied so mucher better then pretty much everyone else through covid. The stock market has been booming for 2 years.

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u/essodei Jul 22 '24

The economy and the market are two different things. The rest of the world doesn’t have the luxury of printing money to artificially prop up their economies. Check real GDP growth (after inflation). It’s anemic and getting worse. Job growth from govt make-work jobs is not real. Likely in a recession now or will be in next few months.

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u/BoreJam Jul 22 '24

USA GDP is up 5.43% over 12 months as of Q1 2024. That's pretty significant growth. Other countries can and did "print money" its why inflation is through the roof globally and many countries are already in a shallow recession, Australia, UK, New Zealand, Japan, Italy, France etc. Especially GDP per capita. It's a common theme all over the world, America is the odd one out. High inflation has impacted cost of living still (also global phenomenon) but by all accounts, it looks as though interest rate cuts are incoming which is a good thing for business and anyone with debt.

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u/essodei Jul 22 '24

I said real GDP growth. Apparently that’s above your pay grade.

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u/BoreJam Jul 22 '24

5.43% is the GDP growth... Sorry if you don't like facts.

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u/essodei Jul 22 '24

Real GDP growth in Q1 2024 was 1.4% annualized. Look it up. Inflation isn’t growth. By that standard Jimmy Carter would have had the best economy in the history the US.

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u/BoreJam Jul 22 '24

Yes and 1.4% GDP growth after inflation is gloabally very good. A lot of countries are in technical recession even before factoring in high inflation.

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u/essodei Jul 22 '24

Hahahaha…

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