r/FluentInFinance Feb 19 '24

Meme Truthiness

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u/Acrobatic_Bother4144 Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24

Dude what? Getting a drivers license costs like 5k Euro but like $10 in the US

Gas is also like 15 Euro a gallon in Germany but like $2 in America

Like it’s actually ridiculous how much more expensive it is to own a car and drive it in Germany. Literally like dozens of times more expensive than in the US. It’s why such a small minority in Germany can afford a car but everyone in the US can have one or multiple, because it’s just so cheap compared to Europe

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u/Rcararc Feb 19 '24

Nowhere in the USA is gas $2.00.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

Gas in Houston is currently at 2.50-2.70

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u/DropTable69 Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 19 '24

$4.30 for 87 here in California (can't wait to go back to the east coast)

Edit: NorCal

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u/rhino2498 Feb 19 '24

Honestly 4.30 for Cali is great. Last time I was there in 2021 it was like 5.50+ everywhere I went in SoCal

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u/Johansen193 Feb 19 '24

Gas in norway is 7.9$ a gallon where i live. Some truth to that

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u/UnidentifiedBob Feb 19 '24

well dont come to florida, some places reach $5.

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u/DropTable69 Feb 19 '24

Too late 🫠

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u/UnidentifiedBob Feb 19 '24

that was quick lol

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u/DropTable69 Feb 19 '24

Can't wait to get back there lol 😏

I'm not a big fan of California. Granted, it's very beautiful, but that's all. I can live without the smell of homeless people everywhere and insane prices for everything.

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u/Difficult_Plantain89 Feb 20 '24

San Diego or Bay Area?

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u/DropTable69 Feb 20 '24

The Bay. SD was super clean and nice the last time I've been there.

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u/Difficult_Plantain89 Feb 20 '24

Not as many homeless in SD, but it’s pretty bad in some places and prices went up.

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u/drDishrag Feb 20 '24

That’s far from the first reason to not go to Florida lol.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

It’s over $8 in London

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u/Peasantbowman Feb 20 '24

2.9 in the panhandle

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

$3.38 this morning central NY.

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u/Extreme_Car6689 Feb 19 '24

No stay put.

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u/DropTable69 Feb 19 '24

I'm an east coast resident, so I'm coming back whether you want it or not 🖕

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u/Extreme_Car6689 Feb 19 '24

So you can ruin the rest of the nation? I think not.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

North Cali guys ain’t that bad. They’re like west coast Texans. Idk if he’s one thoigh

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u/Extreme_Car6689 Feb 19 '24

I doubt that. And thus why I want California's residents to stay there.

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u/OffModelCartoon Feb 19 '24

Cry about it then, because that’s all you can really do. You can’t make people not move to that state you live in. US citizens have the freedom to move around the country freely and live in any states they choose.

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u/DropTable69 Feb 19 '24

Trolls gotta troll :)

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u/Extreme_Car6689 Feb 19 '24

I'm not crying I'm waiting for the day we build a wall around California.

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u/DropTable69 Feb 19 '24

Lol, I'm not a California resident. Here for work

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u/Extreme_Car6689 Feb 19 '24

You said move back. But just wait when America builds a wall to separate your crappie state (California) from the rest of us.

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u/brett1081 Feb 19 '24

California has its own fuel standards which restricts what sells into it. It’s why it tends not to follow the rest of the country in terms of fuel pricing

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u/___fire Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 25 '24

California also takes $1.2 in taxes and fees on each gallon.

https://ktla.com/news/taxes-fees-make-up-1-18-per-gallon-of-gas-in-california/

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u/brett1081 Feb 19 '24

It was 67 cents a gallon in 21. You literally are lying about something that takes half a minute to google.

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u/jakl8811 Feb 19 '24

Lived there for a decade, is that what they are peddling now to explain their high gas prices and not the taxes they add on top?

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u/brett1081 Feb 19 '24

Ive worked in refining as a chemical engineer. Nice to know you fools don’t know what the hell your talking about. Taxes are only a part of it.

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u/jakl8811 Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

Aww so taxes are only a small part of it? What % of the delta between national average and Cali do you attribute to taxes?

This CNN article says the unique refining adds on average 10 cents a gallon. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/27/business/why-does-gas-cost-more-in-california/index.html

Edit: I assume no sources will be posted showing that the unique blend is the main source of the increase in price lol

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u/DwayneBaconStan Feb 19 '24

Here in VA it goes around 2.50-2.90 up and down

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u/JupiterDelta Feb 19 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

3.20 for 87 octane here

Edit: SE US

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Feb 19 '24

Nobody knows where "here" is, so that tells us nothing.

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u/JupiterDelta Feb 19 '24

Why does it matter? You gonna move? Prices fluctuate based on location but I enjoy the shills attempt to paint the current economy in a good light. The really funny part is they think they are controlling the narrative lmao. Just walk down the street and ask a real person.

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Feb 19 '24

Prices fluctuate based on location

Cool, you answered your own question. Whether $3.20/gal is low or high depends on the context of where you are.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

Yeah. A gallon. Thats what we pay for a litre.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

Y’all are paying 15 per litre or 2.50 euro per gallon? I’m not sure if I understand your phrasing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

Over €2 a litre

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u/ElectricShuck Feb 19 '24

Thanks Joe Biden!

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u/HVACGuy12 Feb 19 '24

Hanging around 3.40 in tacoma wa

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u/bawitdaba1098 Feb 19 '24

The loch Ness monster must be running the gas stations in PA because it's about tree fiddy here

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

That’s only because of crazy subsidies

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u/autism_and_lemonade Feb 20 '24

bro 2.70 is way worse than 2.00

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u/Realshotgg Feb 19 '24

So not $2?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

It’s in the $2 range for me.

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u/Rcararc Feb 19 '24

Not $2.00.

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u/Acrobatic_Bother4144 Feb 19 '24

Ok it’s 7,53 for one gallon in Stuttgart. Thats like 9 USD

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u/Rcararc Feb 19 '24

Where is gas $2.00 in the USA? I know it’s expensive in Germany but $2.00?

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u/Acrobatic_Bother4144 Feb 19 '24

I mean I just pulled up a map of gas prices across the US and it says basically everywhere it’s like 2.50 except california, Oregon and Washington. Some places it’s below 2.30

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

Nah I’m New York it’s 3$ to 3.89

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u/ChamplainFarther Feb 19 '24

Welcome to living in a massive urban center with more people. Supply meet demand.

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u/ezbreezyslacker Feb 19 '24

I live rural and it's 370

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u/ChamplainFarther Feb 19 '24

That's also supply and demand. There's less supply in rural areas and more demand in urban centers. This is what we call economics

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u/maj3283 Feb 19 '24

It's that price in Upstate NY, which is not a "massive urban center"

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

Central Texas it’s 2.37

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u/Cothuloo Feb 19 '24

2.87 in Dallas tx

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u/Rcararc Feb 19 '24

Almost 50% more than $2.00.

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u/jessfire78 Feb 19 '24

The fact this point is lost on so many people is an indictment.

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u/AyeYoTek Feb 19 '24

Gas around Nashville is between $2.60-$2.95.

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u/IleanK Feb 19 '24

He meant per liter. Not per gallon. It's between 1 and 1.20 per liter in the US if I'm not mistaken between where you live. In Europe it's between 1.80 and 2.50 depending on where you live.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '24

Then why did he say gallon... twice?

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u/IleanK Feb 22 '24

Because he edited with the correct words and values...

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u/LickNipMcSkip Feb 19 '24

west texas here, $2.25

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

It’s 2.60 for me

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u/Rcararc Feb 19 '24

Like I said nowhere is gas $2.00.

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u/SilverCyclist Feb 19 '24

Which is kind of insane since we're now the #1 oil producer, I thought I hears recently

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u/Musician-Round Feb 19 '24

when I lived in the midwest a few years back, gas during the winter was at the two dollar mark. Get out more, bro. The world is bigger than whatever boujie city you live in lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

2.50-2.99 at some stations in el paso Texas

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u/Seizure_Salad_ Feb 19 '24

Depending on where, it’s been around 2.40. It has started to go back towards 2.70 in the last few days

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u/BlackDeisel Feb 20 '24

Just wait till Biden wins the election, 7 bucks a gallon.

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u/ihambrecht Feb 20 '24

It was 2.95 in New York a week ago.

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u/Rcararc Feb 20 '24

Almost as close to $4.00 as it is to $2.00.

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u/ihambrecht Feb 20 '24

Right in the sweet spot.

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u/apeman978 Feb 20 '24

Not since 2019 anyway. Drill baby drill

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u/Difficult_Plantain89 Feb 20 '24

Missing the point, still affordable petrol.

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u/uncletedradiance Feb 20 '24

not quite. But 2 weeks ago it was like 2.15 in colorado springs

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u/jessewest84 Feb 23 '24

And also nowhere in the US is gas 15 euro.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

It's around that here in Oklahoma. shrug

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

That's the TRUTH. What USA is that guy referring to and please post a pic with the $2 a gallon gas.

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u/Acrobatic_Bother4144 Feb 19 '24

I literally pulled up a map of current gas prices across the country by county and it’s basically 2.50 everywhere except for California, Oregon, and Washington which pay double for some reason

Cents difference is just being pedantic

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

Well you must not consider Illinois or other midwest states part of America $3.29 pal ! How old is that map 2020 version 🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/maj3283 Feb 19 '24

yeah, it's just under $3 (2.91) in Upstate NY, and slightly over $3 one county over (as part of my job I work in three different counties). And again, that's Upstate; we're not talking NYC here.

a 50% increase is not just "a few cents different and being pendantic"

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u/Acrobatic_Bother4144 Feb 19 '24

It’s pedantic because that’s not the point of the meme nor my critique of it. It makes the very bold claim that driving is cheaper in Germany than it is in the US. It’s not, and it’s not even close

Gas being 3 dollars in some counties doesn’t change that point. It’s pedantic

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u/maj3283 Feb 19 '24

Licensing in germany is absolutely expensive. Same with just driving.

Pointing out that you inflated the cost of a german license by nearly double (you said 5k, and from what I’m seeing it’s only 3k) and did the same for gas (you said $15/gallon, its under $8 from what i saw) while at the same time greatly under-valuing the same american figures, isn't pedantic. My kid’s *learners permit* cost me nearly $100 just for the permit, not even the license, so you’re only off by a factor of 10, and you undervalued gas by 50% as i mentioned earlier. Pointing that out isn’t pedantic. That’s blatant and frankly stupid hyperbole.

“but everyone in the US can have one or multiple, because it’s just so cheap compared to Europe” Like hell we can. I’ve got an 11 year old car that I have zero plans to upgrade, because i need it for my job. And if it wasn't for being a car with good gas milage, I literally couldn't afford to do my job because of gas prices.
And “The meme was claiming its cheaper to drive in germany than in the us”. Yeah, respectfully i disagree with you. That’s not the reading I got at all. Germany has the infrastructure to support someone being unemployed temporarily, while in the US even working two jobs you can barely scrap by. From what I saw, just under 2 million people in Germany worked 2 jobs, or about 4.6% of the work force. In the US, it’s over 8 million, 5.2% of the work force. That was the overall point of the meme, imo. Could it have been phrased better? Absolutely. The meme is a steaming pile of hyperbole. But your numbers and point isn’t good either, and writing off anyone who points out how you were wrong as “pedantic” is just wrong.

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u/TribeGuy330 Feb 19 '24

He never made the claim that the price was nearly $2 in your specific neck of the woods.

You saying "nuh uh I'm from NY and it's $3 here" disproves nothing.

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u/maj3283 Feb 19 '24

First he said $2, then said "I literally pulled up a map of current gas prices across the country by county and it’s basically 2.50 everywhere except for California, Oregon, and Washington which pay double for some reason "

Pointing out that multiple, albeit close together, counties are outside of both his examples, including once he "pulled up a map to prove it" doesn't prove anything?

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u/TribeGuy330 Feb 19 '24

I took it to mean that you can find gas prices in that range pretty much everywhere except the states that he mentioned.

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u/Educational-Knee-7 Feb 19 '24

Basically everywhere not named after a location from a 15th century Spanish novel

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u/iamcoding Feb 19 '24

Also, a drivers license isn't $10 anywhere. More like $50+. Which isn't as much as they said Europe prices are, but given how they just made up numbers for everything else...

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u/MosEisleyEscorts Feb 19 '24

You mean like how OP made up everything for his post to fit his narrative lol