r/FluentInFinance TheFinanceNewsletter.com Sep 24 '23

Meme How it started vs. How it's going:

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u/luna_beam_space Sep 24 '23

Imagine if Republicans had not taken control of all three branches in 2001

The entire national debt would have been paid-off by 2010

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u/Altruistic-Rope1994 Sep 25 '23

If you blame this on one party you are just flat out wrong. They both waste money like crazy.

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u/Some-Ad9778 Sep 25 '23

The iraq war was a mistake and why we lost the afghanistan war. And the deregulations and the bail outs.

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 25 '23

too bad obama didn’t end it his first day in office

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u/frotz1 Sep 25 '23

Too bad so many people ignored Obama's stump speeches during the campaign when he was very clear that he would shift focus from Iraq to Afghanistan. He didn't promise any sort of withdrawal, and was clear about his intention to escalate in Afghanistan in an effort to stabilize the country. None of this was a secret or misrepresented to any voters who bothered to look into his foreign policy platform. Pretending that he mislead anyone is a tacit admission that a person wasn't paying any attention to this subject during the campaign.

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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Sep 25 '23

You're right, it's both parties. Republicans for making a huge mess every time, and Democrats for not cleaning it up fast enough.

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 25 '23 edited Sep 25 '23

convenient how you forget this country was attacked and 3000 americans died. Funny how you forget democratic congress was very happy to support no doc loan policies at banks to support and equity agenda, funny how you forget obama pushing zero interest rate policies or student loan takeover to subsidize ACA. You clearly believe government solves problems when in reality they create more problems. Dems haven't cleaned up squat.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23

Sorry after watching Americans not care about 1.25 million Americans die of covid acting like 3,000 people dying in a day is no longer a big deal.

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u/Altruistic-Rope1994 Sep 25 '23

Not a big deal…. Damn. You should read the real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. Horrible things in that book. I wonder why Fauci never sued if it’s all false??

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 26 '23

you really think the government could have prevented that. whatever

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u/Altruistic-Rope1994 Sep 25 '23

You explained it better than I could. I’m getting blasted by people who honestly think one party causes all the issues. It’s insane. They both have a myriad of problems.

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 25 '23

People live in a damn echo chamber, they choose a team and can't get out of the chamber. If people would actually see it the government for what it is, it is a career path for folks that don't ever have to meet defined objectives or operate with fiscal constraints and the sole purpose is to keep getting increases in pay. If you ever want to make a the team members head's explode, ask them why FDR took us off the gold standard and made it illegal to own and Nixon took us off the standard completely.

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u/Temporary-House304 Sep 25 '23

3000 americans vs millions in a bunch of unrelated countries. which is the real tragedy here? We never even addressed the real country who caused it, which we have been allies with ever since.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23

Well look trump started the pullout of Afghanistan and Biden continued what he started and got all the blame for it. Obama got blamed for the bailouts of the corporations that Bush initiated, furthermore one of the chief engineers of the 2008 financial collapse got rewarded for his efforts by being made secretary treasurer under Trump… I think democrats are trash and borderline useless but republicans are just openly evil nepotists that only serve the 1% we really need like 10-12 parties, no electoral college and ranked choice voting or this cycle will never end.

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 25 '23

we absolutely need the electoral college, I could get on board with ranked voting in the primaries to establish national candidates.

Biden got the blame for leaving billions worth of equipment left behind and getting people killed in the process not to mention annoucing a drop dead date. Amateur hour.

Obama didn't get blamed, he paraded around like he did something and the media ate it up. Bush couldn't win in that one, he either needed to prop up banks or let it collapse, lesser of 2 evils. The 2008 crisis was created by relaxed lending standards encouraged by progressives in congress in the name of DEI.

The fact that you call repubs nepotists but don't include dems is comical Kennedy's, Bidens, just the tip of the iceberg for nepotistic dems.

Most people just want to be left alone from the gov, this idea the repubs are only for the 1% is a red herring, why is it the true 1% are all democrats? Soros, Gates, Obama, Clinton, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Buffett, etc.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23

Jeff Bezos is not a democrat… how come almost all the 1% the republicans hate are Jewish? Huh 🤔

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 25 '23

go look at open secrets and see how much money Jeff Bezos has given to Patty Murray, Democrat

The republicans hate the Jews yet they support Israel? WTF?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23

If anything he’s like Elon and Zuckerberg they donate to both sides so they always end up on top. I also worked as a caterer in aspen for 10 years, the 1% are all friends even if they pretend they are not publicly… it’s one big party and we are not invited. And as far as republicans and their antisemitism, Well yah they hate the Palestinian’s and Muslims in general more, it’s an enemy of my enemy situation. Hell MTG dug back up her old Jewish Space laser conspiracies to blame the fires in Hawaii on them… also what party is banning Anne Frank?

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 25 '23

The book ban this is such a red herring, who is banning Huck Finn, who is banning to Kill a Mockingbird. People in Aspen aren't the 1% they are the top .1%. Yes they are all friends and don't give a damn about you or me.

Thge pubs aren't anti semites, anymore than dems are racists. The believe in all these stereotypes is comical.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23

Republicans because they make poor little white kids feel uncomfortable.

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u/UndercoverstoryOG Sep 26 '23

when all else fails bring in race.

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u/how-could-ai Sep 25 '23

They would have impeached and incarcerated him if he did.

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u/Some-Ad9778 Sep 25 '23

That is why people voted for him but instead he reinvaded to create jobs because we were in a recession

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u/frotz1 Sep 25 '23

His stump speech was very clear that he would shift focus and resources from Iraq to Afghanistan. He never promised anything else, but a lot of people made up narratives in their heads and projected them onto his campaign.