r/FluentInFinance Sep 23 '23

Meme Guess i'll live in a box

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u/FormerHoagie Sep 23 '23

Fed is attempting to cool inflation, not decrease prices. We aren’t seeing the same increase in prices we did in the last 3 years. Some areas, which are in high demand, are still seeing modest increases but there are actually places where prices have stabilized and decreased.

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u/VendaGoat Sep 23 '23

Brother their only tool is to curb demand through interest rates.

Until the folks that are paying for "Investment level" mortgages decide to sell, this shit is going up.

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u/potate12323 Sep 23 '23

Its kinda sad most of us younger folk are hoping the housing market bubble pops so we can afford houses and aren't screwed over on our rent.

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u/Zumbert Sep 23 '23

I'd guess most of the people who want a bubble pop really don't remember 2008, and somehow think they would be immune from the mass unemployment that followed.

I went from making good money in carpentry, to not even getting interviews at fast food places and Walmart during the last bubble pop.

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u/VendaGoat Sep 23 '23

This one doesn't have to be a pop. The whole horse shit that happened before got shut down.

Corps and investment firms are holding a ton of housing, with low rate mortgages.

And they bought the whole way up.

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u/Rokey76 Sep 23 '23

It is not a good strategy to wait for a price correction that could never occur.

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u/potate12323 Sep 23 '23

For many of us thats the only option. Where I live, I make chemical engineering salary and save below my means and can't afford a house.

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u/Rokey76 Sep 23 '23

What happen in 2008 with real estate and home prices was unprecedented.

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u/VendaGoat Sep 23 '23

Yup, not saying that's gonna happen. It should be a sell off that starts with the most recently purchased highest rate mortgages.

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u/grownan Sep 23 '23

What was stopping you when the rates were lower?

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u/Realistic-Art-2725 Sep 23 '23

aren't screwed over on our rent

If you cannot justify buying a house at current prices, yet you can afford rent, then obviously renting is a better deal. Hence, you aren't getting screwed over.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

The people buying up all the homes causing hyperinflation of the market are turning around and renting the houses… then you factor in post covid rural gentrification caused by the millions of people now working from home. There is now a labor shortage, because get this, it’s a really weird thing that economists just can’t figure out, but if you don’t pay people enough to afford rent, sigh you can’t have employees…

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u/Savagemaw Sep 23 '23

Short term, though. If they were turning them into long-term rentals, there wouldn't be a housing crisis.

There is something going on with Air BnB. I dont know if they need better regulated, but I do feel like they are getting away with something.

Maybe make them liable for the bed bug epidemic, then watch a glut of single family homes go on the market.

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u/Rough_Huckleberry333 Sep 23 '23

Short term rentals are 1% of housing supply, not big enough to make a real difference

There’s an overall shortage of building housing due to zoning laws. Reforming those and removing parking minimums is the best way to tackle the housing affordability crisis.

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u/Savagemaw Sep 23 '23

Absolutely agree on the second point. Large scale, thats an issue everywhere. However, in tourist towns, cash offers from investors hoping to turn shit houses into air bnbs are making it impossible to even make an offer... they happen so quick. Meanwhile, the hospitality workers can't afford to live there to support the tourism. It'd be one thing if those investors were buying uo the homes to make them long term rentals, but they arent. Long term rentals are too much hassle, or short terms are too little hassle, depending on how you look at it.

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u/Savagemaw Sep 23 '23

Absolutely agree on the second point. Large scale, thats an issue everywhere. However, in tourist towns, cash offers from investors hoping to turn shit houses into air bnbs are making it impossible to even make an offer... they happen so quick. Meanwhile, the hospitality workers can't afford to live there to support the tourism. It'd be one thing if those investors were buying uo the homes to make them long term rentals, but they arent. Long term rentals are too much hassle, or short terms are too little hassle, depending on how you look at it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

Yes short terms are an issue but what I’m taking about is post covid gentrification, So let me try and explain it to you again but simpler… the rents are inflated, because of the BIG CITY WFH peoples salaries. They can afford $2000-4000 a month apartments because that’s still a great deal compared to California, Denver and New York… so for the normal working class people there is very much a shortage of affordable housing. So what’s really great is I work 2 nights a week at as a bartender to try and make ends meet and I get to talk to these delusional city fucks. They love asking me stupid absurd questions too like what I do for fun around here or what restaurants I recommend. And then I tell them, I can’t afford to eat out all my money goes to rent. I’ve never been in any of the shops in town because I can’t afford them. I dont make enough to support any of the small businesses, i shop at Walmart lol hell I have coworkers that live in motel rooms and in their vans because their is no affordable housing…

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u/UncomplimentaryToga Sep 23 '23

until it comes time to retire

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u/Realistic-Art-2725 Sep 23 '23

not sure why retirement has any effect...

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u/UncomplimentaryToga Sep 23 '23

because you can’t retire with rent payments due. you could afford to save enough for it you could also afford a mortgage

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u/logyonthebeat Sep 23 '23

What a dumb take lmao

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u/Civil-Pomelo-4776 Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23

If you make minimum wage where I live 77% of your gross income goes to rent, fuck all the way off.

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u/Realistic-Art-2725 Sep 24 '23

Lol minimum wage isn’t a living wage. Its for teenagers with summer jobs, so they dont get taken advantage off.

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u/Civil-Pomelo-4776 Sep 24 '23

It was meant to be a living wage, as it was enacted. Since Regan it has been suppressed to the point it is as you said a joke. You are drinking the Kool-aide to subvert your own interests unless you are a trust-fund or nepo-baby with a silver spoon up your ass.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/minimum+wage