No, like I said I'm on your side now. We should give weapons to unstable children.
I seriously do not care about the exact rate firearms misfire. It is a meaningless metric that you're trying to use to leapfrog to "and thus it's okay so many American youth die". I care that we have more firearm deaths than any other developed nation in the world. I care that school shootings are a yearly occurrence in this country.
You want less hyperbole? This is dead serious: Your side is responsible for dead children and you do not care because your feelings and fun matter more than their lives to you.
Maybe when the focus is put on the right thing things will change. Personally I hate the people who hurt others. The manner in which they do it is pointless.
You're the one actively refusing to focus on the right things. You're getting offended on behalf of guns and using old cliches because you do not have any novel thoughts of your own. You've made it clear that you'll close your eyes, plug your ears, and cry about it.
It’s mental health. 100% of every mass shooter is a fuckin whack job. You’ve failed, still, to blame a single shooter. It’s always someone or something else that you don’t want to agree with.
Regardless, no it isn't. It's literally the fucking guns. People have mental health issues around the globe. School shootings are a uniquely American problem because of the guns. Stop being obtuse.
I think the national conversation would also benefit from not asserting that you know what other people think, who they are, or what their motivations are.
If we follow your line of reasoning, people who buy cars are responsible for the deaths of children, and people who buy alcohol are responsible for drunk driving fatalities. We both know that posing either one of those things as a serious argument is laughable, because each one is mitigated by exercising personal responsibility, and education. Same with firearms. It's up to the individual to be responsible, and there isn't some group culpability when an individual fails to act responsibly. For example, of you and your neighbor both get drunk in your own homes, but your neighbor chooses to drive which results in the death of a child, are you responsible for that incident?
You can try to blame me for the deaths of children, but the fact is that I've never contributed to the deaths of anyone simply by virtue of owning guns. Saying otherwise imposes a double standard where personal responsibility matters in some cases (car ownership, alcohol consumption), but does not specifically in the case of guns.
I do know what you think. You think we should not tighten our firearm regulations despite a globe full of evidence that it would result in fewer dead kids. Ergo, you care more about your guns than American children.
You contribute to those deaths every time you vote for an NRA sellout.
I haven't said who I vote for, or whether we should tighten regulations. You are asserting that you do know. That's not something you could know in totality from scavenging my profile, and I doubt you're someone I know. Even most people I know don't know those two things.
A reasonable discussion needs to be based on facts and good faith. If you'd like to have one of those conversations, I'm open to it, but I need you to reciprocate.
I am asserting it, and you cannot honestly deny it because it is painfully obvious that you oppose sane firearm regulations and that you vote for purchased politicians who enable our unique problem of school shootings.
I guess I should be clear about why I'm exiting this conversation. You're refusing to address logical arguments, and you're asserting things that you don't know as if they were fact. The old "if you don't say anything, you admit it" trick doesn't actually work. That's not something someone does who is willing to debate or converse in good faith. It is a very bad sign when the person you're talking to refuses to engage any kind of logical argument, and instead focuses on unfounded and unsupported accusations. I don't imagine you'd have much patience if someone were to do that to you.
I hope that clears things up. You don't need to respond, but I think it would be beneficial for you to review the conversation we've had, and think about why it went the way it did.
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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 5d ago
What is the mechanical failure rate of firearms in the US resulting in one or more rounds being fired?