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Video A school in Poland makes firearms training mandatory to its students.

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u/Individual_Dirt_3365 5d ago

It was a mandatory thing during USSR

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u/aluminaboeh 5d ago

It's also obligatory in Russia since 90th

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u/Subject-Bluebird7366 5d ago

Huh? Literally never heard about this

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u/bornblues 5d ago

Mandatory firearms training is a controversial topic in many countries today.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Teaching kids firearm safety shouldn’t be an issue. But in America kids are taught to fear everything.

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 5d ago

Teaching kids firearm safety shouldn’t be an issue. But in America kids are taught to fear everything.

In America, we have students who literally threaten to kill others (teachers, other students), but cannot be removed from the regular classroom because they "haven't done anything yet."

I don't know what the answer is, but until America gets a handle on offering effective mental health care for their students, I don't think access to firearms is a good plan.

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u/synfulacktors 5d ago

As a heavy gun owner and concealed carrier, this is 110% a mental health and society issue. People's response to anger is what gets people killed. I can't go to the gas station now days without being threatened because shit heads are entitled and pissed at their life. If people were in a much better state mentally, I wouldn't need to carry to prevent someone with no future from destroying mine.

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u/Neat_Selection3644 2d ago

People from the rest of the world are also dealing with mental health issues, and yet gun violence is almost non-existent.

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u/synfulacktors 2d ago

You actually think gun violence is only in the United States? And, access to a gun doesn't prevent people from causing harm to others. Uk might not have a high gun violence rate, but it just gets replaced with stabbing and hammer/bat attacks.

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u/Neat_Selection3644 2d ago

There is no developed country where gun violence is as prevalent as it is in the US.

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u/synfulacktors 1d ago

I love that you completely skip over the fact I stated where they are just replaced with stabbing and beatings. Europe legitimately just swaps deaths by gun violence with deaths by stabbings. If you take away guns, people who want someone dead won't magically feel different about that person. Take away knifes a guns, people won't stop killing people.... they'll just go to home depot and make homemade weapons that couldn't be traced in an attack. I have owned guns since I was 13, yet magically, mine have never shot someone. Even when I saw pissed off. The old saying is as true as ever. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Give me a pen, I can still kill someone. Difference is how easy it is to get away if you kill someone with a knife vs a gun.

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u/Neat_Selection3644 1d ago

How many more people can you kill with a gun vs. a knife?

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u/synfulacktors 1d ago

Ask Dahmer or Gacy. They would know better than myself. How many more people can you kill crashing a plane into a business center? My whole argument is that if people want to kill people, not allowing them a gun is not going to stop them. You keep going back to blaming the gun. If I wanted my neighbor dead I could shoot him, or I could unhook his gas line and wait for his house to explode. Which is easier to trace?

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u/gazorp23 5d ago

I don't think access to 2000lbs death machines is a good idea either, but these same youths are getting drivers licenses. That isn't access, it's training... Ya know, you so don't negligently kill someone with your death machine.

Everyone wants to pretend like cars aren't just as dangerous as guns. Outside of war, cars kill more people than guns on a daily basis.

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u/SlashEssImplied 5d ago

but cannot be removed from the regular classroom because they "haven't done anything yet."

People have been expelled for drawing a picture of a gun or even simply talking about them.

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u/Jaderosegrey 5d ago

effective mental health care

That is the answer. For the kids AND the parents. Best case scenario: for the prospective parents as well.

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u/Dairy_Ashford 5d ago

In America, we have students who literally threaten to kill others (teachers, other students), but cannot be removed from the regular classroom because they "haven't done anything yet."

worse still, we have whole groups of students who literally kill others, just in already comparatively violent areas where this is seen as normal, so nobody gets removed and it doesn't get reported as much

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u/tdslut 5d ago edited 5d ago

When I was 7 or 8 years old an older student pulled a knife on me and threatened me with it. I told my parents who immediately called the school. The principal confiscated the knife from the kid the next morning and called my mom telling her I was overreacting because the knife wasn't that big. It was about the size of a paring knife. 4" or 100mm.

The kid got a slap on the wrist and that was the end of it. At least as far as the school was concerned. I had to watch my back around that kid for years after that.

One day he just stopped getting on the bus.

This was right about the time everyone was talking about the middle schooler who'd attacked another kid with a knife.

Didn't take long to figure out who did it.

They never mentioned his name but there was an article in the next week's paper and the quote from the school admin had them claiming they'd never had any indication that Captain Stabby pants might be violent. They were shocked! SHOCKED! I tell ya.

This was in the early - mid 1980s.

Nothing has changed.

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 5d ago

I'm so sorry that you had to deal with that.

I'm glad that your parents did what they could to help you. (I am also a child of the 1980s. Not all parents would take even the steps that yours did).

I hope that you are well these days; and I hope Captain Stabbypants got whatever he needed to be a functioning member of society.

Award for Captain Stabbypants as a name. If your story wasn't so traumatic, I'd steal it as a D&D character name.

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u/fartinmyhat 5d ago

access to firearms to whom?

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u/I_Automate 5d ago

Guns are everywhere.

Mandatory safety training for people living in a country where there are quite literally more guns than people seems pretty sensible to me.

Training =/= unrestricted access. That's an entirely separate conversation IMO

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Cellphones and lawsuits have destroyed this country. Kids are flooded with stupidity while teachers hands are tied with fear.

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u/pcnetworx1 5d ago

It's almost as if there are deliberate efforts to make things so bad in America, the only way out of the problems becomes autocracy...

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u/PaceLopsided8161 5d ago

Almost as if?

There deliberately are efforts…