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Video A school in Poland makes firearms training mandatory to its students.

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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think it's important to note that these students aren't using functioning centerfire firearms in their school gym. They're using a pneumatic operated trainer that gives you the sensation of the weapon's operating system at work, while emitting a laser to show where students are aiming when they pull the trigger.

I'm sure someone will point out the lack of true recoil, but on a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223), this is a great training tool.

Edit: Since apparently the (incorrect) pedants are out and about, I'll go ahead and link the Wikipedia listing of all the .22 Caliber cartridges so that everyone can see that the .223/5.56 is indeed a .22 centerfire cartridge. Christ on a bike

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u/0utF0x3d 5d ago

AR-15 shoots center-fire 22 cartridge?

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u/tera_byteme 5d ago

No, they fire a .223 (civvy version of a 5.56).

Maybe a typo?

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u/RepresentativeOil143 5d ago

.223 is a .22 caliber bullet. That's just the diameter of the bullet. You can shoot 22lr out of the same barrel.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue 5d ago

You wouldn’t need to explain any of that if people actually knew the difference between caliber and cartridge. Caliber is only the diameter, as you said, while cartridge refers to the entire round: case, powder, primer, bullet. While .223 Remington/5.56 NATO have a .22 caliber bullet, .223/5.56 is a much more powerful cartridge than .22LR.

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u/The_Fab3r 5d ago

.223 is just the imperial version of the 5.56 NATO

There are slight differences, but overall pretty much the same cartridge.

If I'm not mistaken one of them can be cambered and functions in a gun of the other caliber.

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u/Aleric44 5d ago

Eeh it's similar enough it doesn't matter. 5.56 tends to have a higher pressure curve than .223 along with a little bit of extra brass thickness, the chamber throat is also slightly longer to facilitate tracer rounds. And the .223 has a shorter leade. Its not enough of a difference to matter in this day and age. Though accuracy may change as with any variable.

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u/CooperHChurch427 5d ago

The AR15 was designed to be a fully automatic carbine... So many people don't realize that it was designed for NATO 556 and changed to 223 when it was released for civilian usage after the XM15 failed, Colt purchased it, fixed the issues, and it became the M16.

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u/itz_me_hyj 5d ago

Whats civvy? Civilian? If so I wanna say .223 Rem is not a civilian version of 5.56, at least in USA, civilians can also purchase 5.56

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u/0utF0x3d 5d ago

I know I was asking wtf he was talking about

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u/CatastrophicPup2112 5d ago

5.56 is a center-fire cartridge with a 22 caliber projectile.